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Foxconn Employee Faces 10-Year Prison Sentence For Stealing 5,700 iPhones Worth $1.5 Million (thenextweb.com)

A Taiwanese Foxconn manager faces a stiff prison sentence after he stole 5,700 iPhones from his employer, and went to sell them for $1.56 million. The Next Web reports: Foxconn is a tech manufacturing giant. It makes a lot of things, including laptops for HP, phones for Apple, games consoles for Sony, and its workers so depressed it has to install suicide nets. The Taiwanese manager at the center of this crime -- known only by his family name, Tsai -- worked in the testing department at Foxconn's factory in Shenzhen, mainland China. According to Taiwanese prosecutors, Tsai ordered eight of his subordinates to smuggle out thousands of iPhones which were used by the company for testing and quality assurance purposes. These were destined to be scrapped after use. The stolen iPhones (mostly iPhone 5 and iPhone 5s models) made their way to stores in Shenzhen, and went on to make Tsai and his accomplices nearly $1.56 million USD (Tw$50 million). Tsai has since been charged with breach of trust and, if found guilty, he faces a maximum 10-year jail term.

45 comments

  1. bit harsh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For stealing what amounts to be trash!

    1. Re:bit harsh by fisted · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah. That, and the fact that they were going to be thrown away.

    2. Re:bit harsh by rmdingler · · Score: 1
      Nice.

      My thought was how did he expect to get away with dumping 5700 phones onto the market?

      Alas, that's just noise.

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    3. Re:bit harsh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe they were going to be thrown away as the testing (that they failed to do) would have broken them.
      Is this the reason for antennagate and other quality problems?

    4. Re:bit harsh by ArylAkamov · · Score: 1

      Why do they care if they were going to a landfill anyways?

      I take home tons of shit from my job, they don't give a single fuck since they were throwing it out. Now I've got more carbon fiber, kevlar and fiberglass than I know what to do with.

    5. Re:bit harsh by fisted · · Score: 1

      Well yes. Also, wooosh.

    6. Re: bit harsh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, there are over a billion gooks in ching chong land. Right next door is another billion rag heads so 5700 is a spit in the bucket.

    7. Re:bit harsh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do they care if they were going to a landfill anyways?

      I take home tons of shit from my job, they don't give a single fuck since they were throwing it out. Now I've got more carbon fiber, kevlar and fiberglass than I know what to do with.

      Well maybe your employer would care if they knew. Just be glad they don't need an excuse to get rid of you without any benefits - people have been fired who just ate an untouched sandwich that was going to be thrown away.

    8. Re: bit harsh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The might be a little annoyed if you were to start selling it in competition with their own products. They might also be less enthusiastic about your hoarding of junk if that junk has a high recycling/re-use value.

  2. "Worth" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The retail price might be $1.5 million but I wouldn't say that they would be worth it.

    1. Re:"Worth" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well whoever they sold them to thought they were worth it, as they made $1.56m selling them.

      RTFA

    2. Re:"Worth" by Highdude702 · · Score: 2

      you cant actually believe the numbers police press people release, take for example here in las vegas. some years back they got 20 pounds of weed from a raid and claimed it to be worth a few million dollars. they showed the weed it was dirt brick weed that goes for $50 an oz. so now take ($50*16)*20 and come up with a truthful number $16,000. But to make it a headline story and to try to fool the jurers into convicting them of higher crimes be cause "War on Drugs". So take everything you see in the media with a grain of salt. but then again this is slashdot.

    3. Re:"Worth" by Falos · · Score: 1

      Talking to shareholders: "We had our trash stolen."
      Talking to courts: "Millions of dollars of cash munee."

      Seriously, if you're claiming "Billions in losses" to a jury Because Pirates then why are they mysteriously absent from your quarterly earning statement to your investors?

    4. Re:"Worth" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have the total figure, you also have the number sold, its trivial to get the unit price, which seemed reasonable as a price they may have sold them at to me.

    5. Re: "Worth" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't buy weed for $50/ounce anywhere, unless you're buying huge quantities at one time. Even the crappy stuff will go for at least $200/ounce on the street.

  3. Bit Much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Doesn't seem like he was hurting anyone. It's poor business ethics but when was the last time someone was sentenced to 10 years for business ethics?

    1. Re:Bit Much? by jcr · · Score: 1

      Doesn't seem like he was hurting anyone.

      Yes, he was. Whoever bought those phones would think they were getting a product that was supported by Apple, and hadn't been through destructive testing.

      -jcr

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      The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
    2. Re: Bit Much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want to see this "destructive testing" on iPhones. Oh. Never mind. "I can blend anything" guy on youtube delivers.

    3. Re: Bit Much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I guess the Samsung guy who didn't test the Note 7 batteries and instead sold them at eBay didn't hurt anybody either.

  4. Took the "communism" thing a little too seriously. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He probably believed he owned the product of his labor.

  5. Life after Gangnam Style has been pretty rough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ohp ohp ohp ohp prison gangnam style....

    1. Re: Life after Gangnam Style has been pretty rough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Geography much?

    2. Re: Life after Gangnam Style has been pretty rough by _merlin · · Score: 1

      GP is trying to make a joke about the manager in question's surname "Tsai" sounding kinda like "Psy" (stage name of the Gangnam Style rapper).

  6. Death sentence. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    No fuss, no muss.

    This is FOXXCONN, Just remove the safety nets at his end of the building and he will carry out the sentence himself.

  7. $1.5M for 10Years is good by La+Gris · · Score: 1

    Lets face it. I doubt even a test lab Manager can earn $1.5M within 10 years of salary out there.

    So 10 Years in prison can be a very bad unpleasant occupation but, for $1.5M it pays decently.

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    Léa Gris
    1. Re:$1.5M for 10Years is good by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      Implying you get to keep the proceeds of your crime?

    2. Re:$1.5M for 10Years is good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He had to share with his underlings.

  8. Spare parts by Trachman · · Score: 0

    Now you know where the spare parts are coming from.

    Especially, the spare parts that are not officially available.

  9. Wish we'd come up with the name "fake news" sooner by Solandri · · Score: 4, Informative
    A bit off-topic but:

    Foxconn is a tech manufacturing giant. It makes a lot of things, including laptops for HP, phones for Apple, games consoles for Sony, and its workers so depressed it has to install suicide nets.

    That was fake news. The suicide rate at Foxconn was lower than that of the U.S. at the time of the spike in suicides. The Foxconn suicide myth spread and persists for the same reason other fake news spreads and persists - the people spreading it want to believe it's true, and thus pass it on without first vetting it with a healthy dose of skepticism.

    Except in this case the people spreading it are journalists in the mainstream media, whose job it is to review these stories with a critical eye before publishing them. They want to believe factory workers in developing nations were being exploited by western corporations and thus were more prone to attempt suicide, so they recklessly published these stories perpetuating the myth, and still do. Foxconn installed the nets to try to make the Western media shut up, not because there was a greater suicide problem there than anywhere else. I have no love for Apple or Chinese assembly line labor, but this is one criticism they don't deserve.

  10. A More Fitting Punishment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Might be to get the money back from the individuals and pay it into employee health care and other benefits along with an equal donation from Apple and Foxconn. What does Apple and Foxconn expect other than creating theft and other social problems in their factories of an essentially tech slave labor work force. All I see is a future of discontent with the greed and exploitation in these so called HIGH TECH puppy mill organizations of the orient that could care less about their work force!

  11. Re: Wish we'd come up with the name "fake news" so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're a couple of decades too late. The 1980s already had it.

    And to be honest, I could probably make a case for various other stories even further back in time.

    The Mann Act, for example, was passed in the face of hysteria over the White Slave Trade.

    That's right, Solandri, you don't go too far enough.

  12. Typical corporation by citylivin · · Score: 1

    Corporate stooge: "We no longer want this item, so please add the plastic to the ocean!"

    Opportunist Environmentalist: "But sir its a perfectly working device, surely we can sell it!"

    Corporate stooge: "And tarnish our american overlords brand by selling a *USED* iphone! please go die now!"

    Opportunist Environmentalist: "okay..."

    Corporate stooge: "Now if you'll excuse me I have to switch over the lines to make pirated iphone parts so i can buy up property all over the world and make housing unaffordable for locals!"

    *employer leaves room and opportunist pockets device*

    Its not stealing if its trash. But this is capitalist china, so 10 years in jail for violating corporate rules (and not affording the requisite bribes) seems accurate.

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    As a potential lottery winner, I totally support tax cuts for the wealthy
  13. If have no problem with this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if they were going to throw the phones away anyhow. Good for him.

    1. Re: If have no problem with this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      except im assuming he was going to keep the procceds for himself. it was selfish economics than a eco freindly.

  14. Another way to look at it... by hyades1 · · Score: 1

    So the guy made $1.56 million on the phones, and the longest jail sentence he can get is 10 years. That works out to an annual salary of at least $150,000, assuming he was smart enough to put the money somewhere safe.

    Not a bad wage.

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    1. Re:Another way to look at it... by ketomax · · Score: 1

      10 * 365 * 24 / 5700 = 15 hours of jail sentence per phone!

    2. Re: Another way to look at it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But he forgot rule #1.

    3. Re:Another way to look at it... by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      Not a bad hourly wage, either. ;-)

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  15. So the guy was actually Taiwanese... by fubarrr · · Score: 1

    >Taiwanese manager at the center of this crime

    A big surprise, a Taiwanese guy...

    Back in ifone 3g era, most stolen phones were coming from local staff/managers.

    A funny fact - this once was the reason Apple began demanding oems to physically destroy all devices that do not pasd QA/QC as they all were getting to the streets.

  16. Re: Wish we'd come up with the name "fake news" so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're about a century too late.

    Yellow journalism isn't a new thing.

  17. iPhones for $263? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    $1.5M/5.7K=$263 ... I'd like to see such a retail price.

  18. Bullshit. Google to actually SEE the nets. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bullshit. Google to actually SEE the nets.

    1. Re:Bullshit. Google to actually SEE the nets. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullshit. Google to actually SEE the nets.

      The nets were installed because people read the reports about "above average suicides", and demanded something had to be done, so Foxconn did something. Which doesn't prove the original claims were true, but that people believed them. And I know it's hard for you post-factuals to grasp, but believing something doesn't make it true.

      For that matter, people also demanded that Foxconn give massive reparations to the families of workers that committed suicide. Which actually lead to even more suicides. After they ended those payments, the suicides stopped. Draw your own fucking conclusion.

  19. Robots! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Foxconn installed the nets to try to make the Western media shut up, not because there was a greater suicide problem there than anywhere else.

    And since that did not work, they've moved on to a new tactic - robots! Since the iphone 6 was released, Foxconn has replaced more than half of their labor force with robots (employment went from 110,000 to 50,000). That's more than a 50% reduction in suicides!

  20. STORY: Inventory Policy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BINGO, seems like a shut & closed case. Items scheduled to be destroyed, and someone rescues them & sells them.
    I wonder if he had only taken ten and handed them out for persons use?
    Either way I have seen how the accounting side works and have this tale to tell.

    TL;DR: No one shall benefit after the accountants have stricken items from inventory. If the company can't benefit, no one shall.

    OFFICE RECYCLING
    In our building we have a bunch of inventory being replaced. Such things as older monitors, (square instead of landscape), outdated PDA's (Palm, Pilots), and yes even coffee makers & video cards.

    Now these items work very well. They are not broken. Despite being tossed haphazardly into boxes, these items are not considered abandoned or trash even though they look like it to passers by. They are accounted for all they way up to their fate. What is that fate? -->
    --> They must be donated to organizations, recycled, or destroyed for various budgeting & tax reasons. They can't be re-sold or re-purposed to any benefit of the company or individuals. Not even to individuals who want to rescue an old video card, and especially not people who will make lots of money off of this stricken inventory. --

    It is THAT kind of budgeting/fiscal policy that demands that all items stricken from inventory be truly followed through with the plan, (donate, recycle, destroy). And woe be to those that dive into the bin to collect such perfectly working gems as these. Such an act apparently brands one as a thief by legal definition- because interfering with an item's destiny reverses the company's accounting processes and puts their financial reputation at risk. Even if you're not selling it on eBay, merely taking it home to add to one's collection of gadgets.

    So there you go!!! I would not have believed it myself, but apparently finding a new home for a pair of yesteryear monitors is an affront to bean-counters everywhere. No one shall benefit after they have rubber stamped an inventory.

    _