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UK Health Secretary Urges Social Media Companies To Block Cyberbullying And Underaged Sexting (betanews.com)

Mark Wilson shares his article on Beta News: Health secretary Jeremy Hunt has made calls for technology companies and social media to do more to tackle the problems of cyberbullying, online intimidation and -- rather specifically -- under-18-year-olds texting sexually explicit images. Of course, he doesn't have the slightest idea about how to go about tackling these problems, but he has expressed his concern so that, in conjunction with passing this buck to tech companies, should be enough, right?
Hunt apparently believes there's already a technology which can identify sexually explicit photos, and that social media networks should now also develop algorithms to identify and block cyberbullying, an idea the Guardian called "sadly laughable."

"Is the blanket censorship of non-approved communications for all under 18s -- something that goes far further than even the Great Firewall of China -- really the kind of thing a government minister should be able to idly suggest in 2016?"

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  1. Sexting is a health issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How is "underaged sexting" a health issue? It may be a moral issue, but that seems to be outside the authority of the Health Secretary.

  2. the trouble with trolls. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you ban a troll, they can just create a new account. If you shadowban a troll, it will take some time and then they will figure it out and make a new account. What we need is a "verseban" for trolls. This would be a progression of a shadowban but instead of being shunned it would appear that people are responding to them when in fact they are conversing with AI chatbots posing as those users. With the latest AI, this would be significantly more difficult to detect, especially if the replies were modeled on things users had written previously. In effect the troll would be banished to their own little universe where they cannot hurt anyone but also don't know they have been caged.

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    1. Re:the trouble with trolls. by allo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Technology never solved social problems.

      And here the workaround to your idea: Troll with two accounts. Do you still see the second one? Oh, it must be "versebanned".
      Ideas like shadow banning seem clever to their inventors, but actually they are a silly game. Just convery your message and say "You're banned. That's it". Controlling if somebody returns needs to be done anyway, and hoping nobody notices your fancy new type of ban is just hopeless. Like the forums with the "crash browser of banned users" option in the good ol' times.

    2. Re:the trouble with trolls. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      This would be a progression of a shadowban but instead of being shunned it would appear that people are responding to them when in fact they are conversing with AI chatbots posing as those users.

      Given the quality of the modern internet, I think the whole thing may have already been replaced with something like that.

  3. Dear politicians by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you plan to propose a law concerning the internet and telecommunication:

    1) Find out how the internet and telecommunication infrastructure works.
    2) Ponder how to enforce the law.
    3) Ponder who gets to set the required rules and regulations to enforce the law.
    4) Propose it.

    Jumping straight to 4, as you usually do, leads to ridicule and only accomplishes that you're showing off your ignorance to a more and more computer- and internet-savvy population. In other words: Don't do it if you value your career.

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  4. The minister for magic strikes again by vittal · · Score: 4, Informative

    Unfortunately (especially for those of us in the UK), Mr.Hunt has a number of views that appear to be at odds with reality. e.g. https://www.newscientist.com/a...

    In the UK, if you speak to many doctors about the minister, prepare yourself for a very, *very* long stream of invective.

  5. Time for surveilance again by allo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Last time we had it because of terrorism, this time it's because of the children. Next time terrorism again, but then censorship instead of surveilance.

  6. Legislate under 18-year olds have no sex drive! by gweihir · · Score: 2

    Because that will make it true, right?

    This is the worst ever suppression of human nature and if this is not sexually motivated abuse of underage youth, I do not know what is. This person is obviously a dangerous pervert.

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  7. Down the slippery slope we go! by Vermonter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    First the UK essentially banned pornography. Now it wants to ban being "mean" (which, being a subjective term, I'm sure will never ever be used to nefarious purposes). I can't wait to see what gets banned next in the name of protecting the children... maybe the political opposition will be labeled as "hate speech" and also be banned. Or maybe any religion that purports any morality that the government doesn't like will be labeled as "hate speech". I'm sure all this will lead to a British utopia in 10 years. I mean, sure, this path has always led to fascism in the past, but this time I'm sure it will somehow end up differently.

  8. Social media companies urge UK government to ... by tlambert · · Score: 2

    Social media companies urge UK government to issue national ID cards to everyone over the age of 4.

    Social media companies also urge the UK government to implement a back end system so that, given the card, they can verify underage status or not in a government database.

    Social media companies further urge that the UK government have plans in place, should the ID card be stolen, for issuing a replacement ID with a different number, and repudiation of the stolen ID, such that it's no longer considered valid ID, by maintaining a revocation status bit in the back end verification database.

    Social media companies finally state that the plan can not be implemented without these systems being put in place prior to deployments, and if they are unwilling to get the necessary infrastructure built so that it's even possible to comply, the UK government can go stuff themselves.