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Facebook Begins Asking Users To Rate Articles' Use of 'Misleading Language' (techcrunch.com)

Facebook is finally cracking down on the fake news stories that run rampant on its site and many other social media sites across the web. The company is rolling out a new feature in the form of a survey that asks users to rate articles' use of "misleading language." The feedback received will likely help Facebook train its algorithms to better detect misleading headlines. TechCrunch reports: The "Facebook Survey," noticed by Chris Krewson of Philadelphia's Billy Penn, accompanied (for him) a Philadelphia Inquirer article about the firing of a well-known nut vendor for publicly espousing white nationalist views. "To what extent do you think that this link's title uses misleading language?" asks the "survey," which appears directly below the article. Response choices range from "Not at all" to "Completely," though users can also choose to dismiss it or just scroll past. Facebook confirmed to TechCrunch that this is an official effort, though it did not answer several probing questions about how it works, how the data is used and retained, and so on. The company uses surveys somewhat like this to test the general quality of the news feed, and it has used other metrics to attempt to define rules for finding clickbait and fake stories. This appears to be the first direct coupling of those two practices: old parts doing a new job.

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  1. Let's see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How many days we can go without a Facebook story.

    1. Re:Let's see by Z00L00K · · Score: 2

      And when is a Facebook article not misleading?

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  2. I'm sure that'll work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm sure this will work perfectly, and everybody will respond honestly and accurately based on whether the story is factual, rather than whether or not it follows the correct political opinion.

    1. Re:I'm sure that'll work by buss_error · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What strikes me is that Facebook is asking the very people that believe the fake news to point out it's fake news.

      Doesn't seem very prone to accuracy to me.

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    2. Re:I'm sure that'll work by BlueStrat · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm sure this will work perfectly, and everybody will respond honestly and accurately based on whether the story is factual, rather than whether or not it follows the correct political opinion.

      "Working As Intended(TM)"?

      Perhaps filtering of politically "sensitive" topics in the "news" feed is the goal and not an unintended consequence under the guise of filtering "fake news"?

      Strat

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    3. Re:I'm sure that'll work by LeftCoastThinker · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This exactly. The majority can still be wrong, and a voting system will be rife with partisan BS. There is no substitute for a good BS detector and a healthy dose of skepticism. The problem is there is no foolproof way to automate what honest journalists used to do. It will be interesting to see how many NYT or other MSM articles get flagged as mostly false.

      What FB needs to do is develop an apolitical pipeline where they don't vet the articles, they vet the sources, and then put down strict sourcing and veracity rules straight out of classical journalism 101 for those sources in the pipeline. Sources that violate these rules get flagged as satire or fiction and banned from the news pipeline and lose visibility for a period of weeks or months. A small team of investigators could check into random or flagged stories and then ban as appropriate. There are tens of thousands of stories written up every day, but probably curating 1000 pipelines would satisfy 95% of the important news.

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    4. Re:I'm sure that'll work by Monoman · · Score: 2

      What strikes me is that Facebook thinks it's users are actually reading the articles. I don't have any evidence too support this but I suspect FB users don't read much past the headline and move one.

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    5. Re:I'm sure that'll work by gsslay · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It'll work just like all online vote systems work, including the slashdot scoring right here. People will down-vote not because they think the story is false or misleading, but because they don't like what it says. Or because they don't like someone it features. Or because they disagree with an opinion given.

      And the reverse for things they like what is said, or they'd like to think was true.

      Unless you have the time to do your own research on every news story, the best source of news is a source that you trust to be true and accurate. A source that depends on its reputation and cannot afford to lose its readers' trust. Anonymous voting systems involve neither trust or reputation.

    6. Re:I'm sure that'll work by uohcicds · · Score: 2

      Yup, The Dunning-Kruger Effect in full ...ahem...effect. Asking those who are reading (and believing) this stuff to evaluate how reliable the content is strikes me as being even worse than useless, and actively harmful, because positive feedback on such articles will encourage further propagation. And facebook wil be able to say that audiences rated the articles highly, so they must be ok.

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    7. Re:I'm sure that'll work by mjwx · · Score: 2

      What strikes me is that Facebook is asking the very people that believe the fake news to point out it's fake news.

      Doesn't seem very prone to accuracy to me.

      Actually its a good way to spot people who are bad a spotting fake news.

      Put out a series of control stories, X number real and Y number fake (anything from Fox News or Brietbart should do). Then you weight the users votes depending on accuracy. In theory this can now be used to spot fake news as we've identified the unreliable voters.

      Facebook's problem is that they need their site to remain an echo chamber for their userbase to not shrink. So this kind of weighting would better be used to determine which stories and advertisements to push at people. I.E. someone who often reads Fox News should be be ready to buy several tons of male cow manure.

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    8. Re:I'm sure that'll work by SlashDread · · Score: 2

      Im not sure the slashdot moderation does what you say it does. The meta-moderation seems to work pretty well, as in, obvious trolls from both nationalist alt-right and SJW left are often modded down. Topical opinion on both side seems to float up. Not to say it always works.. but it works better then thumbs up, down or other shitty yes/no moderation.

  3. And on that subject by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 5, Interesting

    And... they're off!

    Hillary campaign bus involved in deadly crash.

    And of course, CNN falsly admits it aired pornography for 30 minutes on thanksgiving.

    Synopsis of previous link:
    1) A Twitter user in the Boston area reported that CNN was airing hardcore pornography for 30 minutes through local provider RCN.
    2) Picked up by The Independent, a leading left-of-center newspaper based in the United Kingdom.
    3) Subsequently many other media outlets including Variety magazine, the U.K. Daily Mail, the New York Post, Esquire magazine and Mashable, &c.
    4) Eventually, CNN actually confirmed that it did air “inappropriate content” and was seeking an “explanation” from RCN.

    Of course, nothing of the sort happened.

    Mainstream media has a bit of a credibility problem, yah?

    1. Re:And on that subject by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      There is a difference between media outlets rushing to publish a story and screwing up, but having it corrected and debunked within a day, and the fake news conspiracies like Pizzagate that drag on for months even after being shown to be completely false.

      The media has started to get more active at debunking stuff now. It turns out that debunking articles make good clickbait too. The remaining big problem, which is harder to solve, is bubbles preventing the message getting out, and echo chambers amplifying conspiracy theories.

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    2. Re:And on that subject by Raenex · · Score: 2

      fake news conspiracies like Pizzagate that drag on for months even after being shown to be completely false

      How was it shown to be "completely false"?

  4. Would that be a DISLIKE button? by evanh · · Score: 2

    ???

    1. Re:Would that be a DISLIKE button? by lgw · · Score: 2

      And we all know how well that worked for Digg!

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  5. What is their opinion of users? by TodPunk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I enjoy this trend of assuming that crowdsourcing will solve it, because people know what "misleading language" is. I don't think it can actually solve it, but the optimism is interesting. Whatever happened to assuming the universe would build a better idiot, and the user is always wrong?

    Times seem to have changed.

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  6. Party-approved fake news by mi · · Score: 5, Informative

    The following Party-approved Fake News stories need not be flagged — indeed, tagging them as anything other than deeply concerning may cause your account to be suspended:

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  7. We need a MINISTRY OF TRUTH! by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Uh oh.... ...and 1984 was supposed to be a work of ficiton.

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  8. I don't think this will work by SlovakWakko · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Most posts get published/read inside a likeminded network of contacts. These are not very likely to judge an article objectively, and only very few people from outside of the network, with a different point of view, will get an opportunity to present their opinion (or will care to do so). On the other hand, this may be a good way to quickly judge the crazyness of a community, to discover its particular bias and use that to feed into the community more attractive fake news which will get clicks. Hooray, more $$$ for Macedonia :)

  9. So the plan is... by Gumbercules!! · · Score: 2

    So Facebook's brilliant plan to solve "fake news articles" tricking idiots into believing things is to ask those same idiots who couldn't tell it was fake news to tell them that it was fake news? Yeah, that checks out. Go right ahead Facebook. I don't see any flaws in that logic, at all.

  10. Message From The Party: Hype "Fake News" Meme by alternative_right · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To all media goodthinkers:

    We need the sheep to stop deviating from the orthodoxy. Repeat "fake news" until the citizens cry for non-conforming news to be censored.

    Sincerely, the Inner Party.

  11. Broader problem with dishonesty by swb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    IMHO, the problem isn't just fake news but a broader, and longer term problem of general dishonesty in society that's been going on for decades.

    * Government dishonesty since at least Viet Nam and/or Nixon. Two examples where the government actively lied and/or stretched the truth, and there are many others. This has long been internalized by many people about the honesty of government.

    * General misleading nature of advertisements. We're constantly bombarded with misleading messages about every day items and we've all had experience where the product doesn't align with its promises.

    * Corporate dishonesty -- outright lying. Karen Silkwood, Thalidomide, Corvair, Pinto, corporations relentlessly covering up and lying about bad products, corporate misdeeds and so forth. And these are all very old examples just to demonstrate how it has been going on for decades.

    * Employer dishonesty -- The relentless messaging from management about business goals and plans for employees. How often is it true or does it end up improving employee work lives? Almost never. Most people impulsively parse and disbelieve what management tells them because it's so often the opposite of what they're told.

    * The near-legal practical status of scams and cons -- We're constantly assaulted by outright dishonest people. Spam email, "card services", "free cruises". Yes, it's illegal and few people believe it at face value but there's so little effort to stop it that it seems to be legitimized as a means of doing business.

    * Ideological dishonesty -- across the political spectrum all ideological advocates both embrace untruths necessary to advance their cause and discount their critics when it seems patently obvious they're not being honest.

    It's not just fake news -- belief in fake news is just a symptom of the relentless, never ending crisis of honesty in our culture. Lying and misleading is so ingrained in our culture that doubting is our first impulse. So why not buy into fake news and conspiracy? Lies and conspiracies have quite often been shown to be true, why should I have any faith that person/institution X is telling the truth and not lying to me and that the conspiracy is false?

    Until the Internet, the news media was actually one of the last institutions to *mostly* tell the truth -- libel laws, the business nature of actually printing news, journalism as an actual profession with a sense of ethics and some mission to tell the truth -- mostly worked against fake news, which was (in the US anyway) generally marginalized into corners of celebrity gossip or supermarket tabloids. It just wasn't practical to create fake news when you needed a press run of a million copies on a regular basis and a distribution network.

  12. Re:the problem with hate based politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They assume alt right = fake. The other day, one of the big websites (abc/cbs/cnn) ran a story quoting Trumps pick for head of DHS "I won't rule anything out." to the question of making a Muslim registry. The left out the "But there will be no registry." That part was in the video, but not the article.

    Both sides.