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NASA Awards $127 Million Contract For Refueling Mission Spacecraft (gizmodo.com)

Satellites cost millions of dollars to be launched into space and there's no guarantee that they will work without electrical or mechanical problems once in orbit. NASA has recently announced that it will award a $127 million contract to a company that aims to use a robotic spacecraft to fix satellites in space, thus potentially saving millions of dollars in the long-run by fixing satellites that would otherwise be "expensive e-waste." Gizmodo reports: NASA has just announced that it will award a $127 million contract to the California-based satellite company Space Systems/Loral for Restore-L, a robotic spacecraft capable of grasping, refueling and relocating a satellite in low Earth orbit, in addition to testing technologies for future missions. SSL has three years to build the bot, which is projected to launch in 2020. Without the ability to refuel, a satellite's lifespan is restricted by the amount of propellant engineers can pack in its tank at launch. That lifespan can be cut even shorter should the spacecraft encounter any electrical or mechanical problems on orbit. As more and more satellites reach the end of their operational lifespans, government agencies and private companies have been working to remedy this problem by developing robots that can give satellites a tune-up in zero-gravity. DARPA, for instance, recently launched a program aimed at designing robots capable of servicing satellites at the hard-to-reach but highly-desirable perch of geosynchronous orbit, 22,000 miles above Earth. NASA's Satellite Servicing Division, meanwhile, has a handful of on-orbit repair and refueling technology demonstrators in the works, including a robotic arm with the same range of motion as a human arm, a navigation system designed to help robots rendezvous with moving objects in space, and Restore-L, which combines these and other capabilities into a multi-purpose space mechanic. For now, Restore-L's primary goal is to refuel Landsat 7, a critical Earth-monitoring satellite operated by NASA and the U.S. Geological Survey. If successful, the spacecraft may be modified for all sorts of other useful tasks, from mopping up the ever-growing halo of space junk encircling our planet, to servicing exciting new science missions like the Asteroid Redirect Mission, which will grab a multi-ton boulder from the surface of an asteroid and tow it back to orbit around the Moon.

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  1. GPS Satellites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Slightly off topic, but now that we have self driving cars, that rely on GPS satellites (or Glosnass) how do they handle fake GPS data?

    i.e. when the controller of the satellite system deliberately reports false satellite location results to fuck up the calculated GPS position?

    Would the car drive us off a cliff?

    Currently there are two systems, one controlled by Putin, and one controlled by Putin fanbois, and really I don't trust either with my life.

    1. Re: GPS Satellites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There are at least 3 different GNSS systems in operation. GPS, GLONASS and Galileo. There are others also in the pipeline, and some regional ones too.

    2. Re:GPS Satellites by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      i.e. when the controller of the satellite system deliberately reports false satellite location results to fuck up the calculated GPS position?

      That would screw with all receivers receiving the signal, or at least with any that aren't smart enough, which would be the majority. With lots of stuff dependent on these things, how would you propose to do this without major costs? Start with the police all over the country suddenly being called to all ankle monitor wearers in the country at once.

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    3. Re:GPS Satellites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is all done, solved and trodden to death. For one, GPS was always a primarily (US) military thing, so their customers received a better service (i.e. accuracy).

      Moreover, they do provide the service to civilians at no cost (which is nice, hey, thanks[1]!), but reserve the right to disrupt the signal in case of conflict. This was, BTW, one of the leading arguments in favor of creating GPS's european sister, Galileo (and probably of GLONASS).

      [1] I do say that as an EUsian. Most sincerely. Mind you: I don't like/understand many things you USians do, and I complain loudly at times, but this is one of those you do run circles around us: making achievements by the state available to the general public. Chapeau.

    4. Re: GPS Satellites by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      How would that prevent the GPS system operator from manipulating it? They're the ones who would be signing the messages.

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    5. Re:GPS Satellites by Rei · · Score: 2

      Do you think your car drives you into a wall as soon as you drive into a tunnel?

      GPS does not override sensor data.

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    6. Re:GPS Satellites by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      fake GPS data? OLD / poor map data is a bigger issue.

    7. Re:GPS Satellites by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      Cars don't use GPS to tell where obstacles in the road are. Same goes for telling where the edge of the road is, I'm sure. Most cliffs will have a guardrail as an additional obstacle for it to detect, too.

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  2. Re:Cost savings? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That depends. Can the refueler itself be reused, for example? If you had something like Falcon 9 launching a "dumb tank" that the refueler itself would rendezvous with, the costs might be reasonable. You might be able to lift ~15 tonnes of bulk material for ~$50M-60M this way.

    Also, spy sats always faced the problem of limited fuel reserves, and re-launching a KH-11 or equivalent surely can't involve cost savings compared to refueling.

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  3. But... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    What if Restore-L breaks down? And then the Restore-L they send to repair Restore-L breaks down?

    Or what if it gets out there, goes crazy, and starts destroying satellites willy-nilly?

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    1. Re:But... by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      Or what if it gets out there, goes crazy, and starts destroying satellites willy-nilly?

      Don't worry. It won't be running Windows.

  4. Fueling the fueler by waveclaw · · Score: 1

    Well, we do need a good OTV (Orbital Transfer Vehicle). You could use it to move stuff from orbit to orbit as needed.

    So, how much fuel is this robot going to have on board? How or why would you refuel it?

    The reason you put tiny fuel tanks on satellites is that it cost a lot to launch anything on a rocket. If it didn't then the engineers would put huge tanks on things sitting in orbit. Tanks designed to last as long as the next part expected to fail.

    At there aren't that many kinds of propellant in use but you'd still be out of luck if you had something using hydrazine while the only thing left on the repair 'bot is nitrogen.

    Orbital transfers aren't free or cheap (ask any Kerbel Space fan.) It will be interesting to see what propulsion system is proposed. There's interest in tethers for 'propelentless station keeping or orbital transfers.

    Would you send up refuel cans for the robot? Would you de-orbit the robot once it ran out of fuel? Could you recover the robot to save costs, then?

    Except for the Hubble Space Telescope most satellites are not designed to be serviced. What can a hypothetical servicing robot do about dead batteries or shorted out control systems or hole solar arrays on the existing fleet in orbit?

    Finally, while space is pretty big, sending something on a 'soft' collision course with a dead satellite in the prime geosync orbit sounds like a great way to create more debris just where you don't want it. But it's Loral. They will have the best people Congressional pork spending can buy on staff to ask and answer these questions.

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    1. Re:Fueling the fueler by dbIII · · Score: 2

      Orbital transfers aren't free or cheap

      Very true but when most of your potential customers are in geostationary orbit and you have months to work your way from one to the other it's not so ugly.
      Readers, think in ellipses not one dimensional thinking with concentric circles. Not easy maybe but that's how it's done.

      What can a hypothetical servicing robot do about dead batteries

      I very strongly suspect that the complete mission plan will worked out on ground before launch and the thing will be sent to work on X number of known satellites with specific known tasks to complete and specific parts. The alternative - if it's going to be a general purpose thing working for years it's going to have to get fuel and parts shipped to it anyway.

  5. Old idea but a very good one by dbIII · · Score: 1

    Back in the 1970s one of the selling points/excuses for giving up on the Saturn V etc and going for the Space Shuttle was that it could be used to refuel satellites and do repair on them - which did happen with spectacular success with the Hubble telescope. One of several major reasons that such missions were very rare is that the Space Shuttle was limited to doing missions in low earth orbit and it's a very long way to geostationary orbit from there.

    A robot craft could potentially get to that distant orbit and could have a mission time far longer than the Space Shuttle ever had. Also such a mission is incredibly dangerous - if the speeds are not very closely matched the impact energy would be enormous. Accidents will happen and it's better to lose a robot and a satellite than a manned mission.

  6. Re:Cost savings? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    That depends. Can the refueler itself be reused, for example? If you had something like Falcon 9 launching a "dumb tank" that the refueler itself would rendezvous with, the costs might be reasonable. You might be able to lift ~15 tonnes of bulk material for ~$50M-60M this way.

    Also, spy sats always faced the problem of limited fuel reserves, and re-launching a KH-11 or equivalent surely can't involve cost savings compared to refueling.

    I would add to this post by saying NASA should think about using a docking port or docking device on the ISS to "host" the refueler ship. Then the thought of launching a robotic spacecraft with a fuel tank to refuel the "refueler" ship would make sense. Once refueled, the robot "fuel tank" spacecraft can fall back to Earth and burn up with almost empty fuel tanks onboard.

    My logic is the "refueler drone" that stays in space might have (or need) more sophisticated devices, perhaps even electronics packs that are replaceable "in flight" by astronauts on the ISS, compared to a robotic spacecraft which could be a simpler design and proven by the Russian PROGRESS. The Russian robotic spacecraft concept is an older design that has no doubt been updated over the years, but it is well-established.

    Bonus points go to NASA if they examine the refueling design used on the Russian PROGRESS robot spacecraft and figure out a way for this "refueler" to also "refuel" the ISS.

  7. Re:How is this "news for nerds"? by Maritz · · Score: 2

    It was submitted to the firehose and voted on to the front page. You have helped justify by commenting. Cheers. Oh by the way, space is considered nerdy, I guess you never noticed before.

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  8. Re:How is this "news for nerds"? by oobayly · · Score: 3, Informative

    How is this not news for nerds? Nerds like space, or at least some do, and this is about making stuff last longer in space.

  9. Re:Cost savings? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

    Bonus points go to NASA if they examine the refueling design used on the Russian PROGRESS robot spacecraft and figure out a way for this "refueler" to also "refuel" the ISS.

    The fuel system design is not as important here as the docking node. But the NDS/iLIDS system should be able to transfer propellants, too. The problem is that it is somewhat overengineered for unmanned vehicles.

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  10. 127 Mill Maintenance robot vs 4 Billion AF1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So it will only run us $127 Million for a Robot capable of making repairs to Satellites but it costs $4 Billion for AirForce 1 ???

    1. Re:127 Mill Maintenance robot vs 4 Billion AF1 by hey! · · Score: 2

      Well, it's actually $3.75 billion. And it's not one, but two aircraft, so that's 1.875 billion apiece. That's to ensure the executive branch can function in a military crisis while one of the planes is being service.

      Deduct 375 million apiece for the airframe, and we're talking 1.5 billion dollars in customization for each aircraft, including aerial refueling capabilities, which on a two-off job is a craft job; no economies of scale. Add defense and countermeasure capabilities that Air Force is extremely close-lipped about. Is there a actual escape pod on Air Force One like in the movie? Well probably not, but I'm sure the idea was at least contemplated. However it's pretty certain that if someone locks onto AF1 with a targeting radar the aircraft will have options that a stock 747-8 doesn't.

      Next outfit each one so it can function as a replacement for the West Wing and the Situation Room for up to two months -- that's a deducible requirement based on the known fact that the aircraft stores 2000 meals for 100 people. That means three-of-a-kind electronics and communications systems (one for each airframe and one for the actual White House).

      Is 3.75 billion too much for that? Probably. But it's hard to think of any weapon development program since WW2 that is less extravagant.

      By that standard 127 million for an orbital repair robot is an almost inconceivable bargain, even if you factor in a 5x cost overrun.

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    2. Re:127 Mill Maintenance robot vs 4 Billion AF1 by tomhath · · Score: 1

      NASA won't get anything for $127M; that's just the starting point for cost overruns to build on. Plus it's unmanned so if it eventually does fail, no big loss.

  11. Re:Cost savings? by Ranbot · · Score: 1

    How much are they really saving? Wouldn't it be a similar cost to just launch a new satellite than it would be to launch a larger servicing/refueling craft?

    As someone mentioned if the launch vehicles can be reused then probably costs would be cheaper.

    I think you also have to weigh the risks of launches. If a gov't or private company launches a replacement satellite and it blows up at launch or fails to reach orbit that could be very costly. If the satellite in orbit is working fine, then just launching some fuel or spare parts could be much less risky financially than launching a full replacement satellite. Along those lines, reducing the potential financial risk of launches can reduce launch costs throughout the industry. If a launch fails someone does pay for it somehow (e.g. a private reimbursement/guarantee, insurance policy, gov't backing, etc.) and one way or another that cost will be reflected in the larger costs of the satellite launching industry, so reducing financial risk of some launches should reduce costs everywhere.

    Keep in mind too the article states this robot could potentially be used to gather or redirect space junk or asteroids, which despite sounding like long-shots could be very useful, and even an incremental step towards those goals could be valuable.

  12. My first thought (on this topic)... by Nutria · · Score: 1

    are satellites even designed to be maintained in space?

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  13. I'm not sure I see the value here. by mmell · · Score: 1

    The satellites should have enough fuel aboard after deployment to maintain a stable low Earth orbit through their anticipated lifespan. Let's remember, these are technologically advanced devices which operate throughout their lifespan in the harshest environmental conditions we can reach. There are a great many satellites still in stable orbit which have been rendered inoperative through extended exposure to radiation (in space, no one can hear you burn/freeze/be irradiated). EOL is EOL, and while it may be possible to kludge some extra life out old equipment, it's still obsolete equipment subject to multiple modes of failure - not just unplanned deorbiting.

  14. Really? Repair in space? by Jerry · · Score: 2

    LOL!
    More than likely a stealth satellite killer which can move from one to another planting remotely triggered destructive devices.

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  15. Re:Cost savings? by ElizabethGreene · · Score: 1

    It seems to me that this kit is in a race with EmDrive technology. If Cannae's orbital tests work out next year then it would be silly to use propellant engines for station keeping in any new hardware.

  16. Re:Cost savings? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

    The tests are overwhelmingly likely to fail, though.

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