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T-Mobile's 'Digits' Solution Lets You Use One Phone Number Across All Your Devices (theverge.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: T-Mobile just revealed its answer to ATT's NumberSync technology, which lets customers use one phone number across all their connected devices. T-Mobile's version is called Digits and it will launch in a limited, opt-in customer beta beginning today before rolling out to everyone early next year. "You can make and take calls and texts on whatever device is most convenient," the company said in its press release. "Just log in and, bam, your call history, messages and even voicemail are all there. And it's always your same number, so when you call or text from another device, it shows up as you." When it leaves beta, Digits will cost an extra monthly fee, but T-Mobile isn't revealing pricing today. "This is not going to be treated as adding another line to your account," said COO Mike Sievert. "Expect us to be disruptive here." And while its main feature is one number for everything, Digits does offer T-Mobile customers another big perk: multiple numbers on the same device. This will let you swap between personal and work numbers without having to maintain separate lines and accounts. You can also give out an "extra set" of Digits in situations where you might be hesitant to give someone your primary number; this temporary number forwards to your devices like any other call. You can have multiple numbers for whatever purposes you want, based on T-Mobile's promotional video.

46 comments

  1. Google Voice by sbrown7792 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sooooo, Google Voice? Except GV is carrier independent, and free, so I guess that's what sets it apart.

    1. Re:Google Voice by yelvington · · Score: 1

      Yes. Google Voice. I've been using it for years. When I travel internationally (outside of T-Mobile's free European roaming), I can call home on a local number with a foreign SIM. "Digits will cost an extra monthly fee...." Don't need it.

    2. Re:Google Voice by kwerle · · Score: 1

      Yup. Love it.

      Other than it being free, email/text integration, spam call filtering, and a bunch of stuff like that - it does sound similar.

      The one thing I don't like about gvoice is that it won't let me talk on my iPad. I rather suspect that's because of Apple, though - not google. So I'll be interested to see if TMobile supports ipad calling/talking.

    3. Re:Google Voice by m.dillon · · Score: 2

      Yup. Have used it for years too. It rings all of my devices and filters out spam texts. Also quite nice getting an emailed transcript of voicemails.

      -Matt

    4. Re:Google Voice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      google voice PLUS mailinator for phone numbers.

      devices and handsets still each use a phone number (plus another if it's a ported number - one of the reasons porting was fucking stupid) even if you're using "one number" (which is probably one not assigned to a device itself, so there's yet another number) across all of them.... so your household has 6 devices, two numbers, both ported. you're using now 10 (6+2+2) numbers not 8.. or the perceived 2.

      lets add temporary numbers to the mix and really kill NANP fast. phone numbers have a cooling-off period between customer assignment (6 months to a year, typically). it would be trivial to DDOS the number pool, even, rendering every unassigned phone number unassignable under those rules.

    5. Re:Google Voice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure Tmobile is the same as GV. Your devices still have their own independent number, but now they give you another number that rings all your devices.

    6. Re: Google Voice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Install hangouts on your ipad, thats what I use.

    7. Re:Google Voice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > mailinator for phone numbers.

      I wish!

      I want to have context-dependent phone numbers in order to frustrate meta-data cross-referencing. As it is now, phone# is the most sticky id# after social security number. Even if you move, you tend to keep the same phone number. Move to a new state, get a new driver's license, but you'll keep the same phone number.

      I want everybody I talk to to get a unique phone number just for the comm channel between them and me. I want my bank to use one #, my girlfriend to use another #, my ex-wife to use another #, etc. I've already got that for email using my own domain.

      Phone numbers should not be end-points, they should represent unique connections between people.

    8. Re: Google Voice by Miamicanes · · Score: 2

      Finally, someone who Gets It(tm)...

      The thing is, for this to work, we'd HAVE to make phone numbers at least 16-20 digits to keep the universe of numbers sufficiently sparse to frustrate random dialing attempts.

      Personally, I think the NANP area should ultimately go to variable-length numbers... 12 digits for new numbers, 10 digits for legacy and 'gateway' phone numbers [ie, the main number people call to reach a business], and the ability to append up to 10-20 more digits to a 12-digit number [with logic to block calls from anyone who dials too many invalid sub-numbers].

      Ex: Suppose my current cell # is 1-305-555-1234. That's mine in perpetuity. But I might ALSO have 111-7860-5555-2468, which would silently forward to some call-handler (like a recorded announcement I made) specified by me, and could have almost unlimited adhoc numbers like 111-7860-5555-2468-wwww-xxxx-yyyy-zzzz (the 'yyyy-zzzz' part would be passed along to my device, but not used by the phone network itself (so I could use it for any purpose I like, or omit it entirely). To fight call spam, callers would need a telco-signed x509 cert that unambiguously identifies them by organization, subsidiary, department, and caller (so I could block calls with certs associated with ${political-party}, calls from ${cruise-line-determined to sell me another cruise}, etc.

    9. Re: Google Voice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Distributed blockchain technology obsoletes telco number monopolies! Just need an app.

    10. Re: Google Voice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Came for Google Voice frist post, was not disappoint

    11. Re:Google Voice by Cytotoxic · · Score: 1

      Yup. Have used it for years too. It rings all of my devices and filters out spam texts. Also quite nice getting an emailed transcript of voicemails.

      -Matt

      For those who haven't tried it, you can use google voice as your voicemail for your cell phone without using any of the other features. So you can get voicemail to text for free from google, instead of paying a monthly vig to your carrier... plus you get to keep your voice mail box as it is when you move from carrier to carrier.

      It is a nice service, and you can't beat the price. With the text-to-speech and streaming audio, I never dial in to my voicemail account.

      Setup under Verizon was a minor league pain, but switching to T-mobile was a breeze - I just used the "google voice" option on the phone's voicemail menu and it switched my voicemail to google. So I didn't lose any of my saved messages, I didn't have to redo my outgoing announcements and I didn't have to learn new prompts. Very pleasant experience.

    12. Re:Google Voice by gnick · · Score: 1

      Yes - The only differences I see between this and Google Voice (previously Grand Central) is the multiple number feature and the fact that it isn't free. I'll stick with GV.

      --
      He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
    13. Re:Google Voice by jittles · · Score: 1

      Sooooo, Google Voice? Except GV is carrier independent, and free, so I guess that's what sets it apart.

      I actually just tried to sign up for this with GV recently and my only two options were 1) Port my existing number to GV to get free service or 2) pay for GV to be able to keep my number with my current provider. Since I don't want to port my number, I just went with a different company that charges $1 to set it up and $0.01 per minute to accept calls on the new number I wanted.

  2. Why Extra by Luthair · · Score: 1

    You aren't using extra minutes or text messages. In fact, you'll be using data from somewhere else freeing spectrum.

    1. Re:Why Extra by Pascoea · · Score: 1

      Why extra

      Because they can, and because people will pay for it. This has nothing to do with their level of expenditure to provide the service. This is the texting of the late 90s early 2000s, it certainly doesn't cost them 25c to transfer a text message, but people would pay it, so that's what they charged.

  3. Data Only plan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wish I had No Number on my data only plan. Can the disruptive mobile pink unicorns arrange it for me.

    1. Re:Data Only plan by sims+2 · · Score: 2

      I would like to know why they are still assigning numbers to devices that can't make use of them.

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    2. Re:Data Only plan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A data device, without a handset, can still do text messaging.

    3. Re:Data Only plan by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      The first thing that comes to mind is the ipad line which AFAIK is not able to text or make calls using it's included phone number. I also seem to remember a few air cards over the years that didn't support texting either although I don't remember which ones.

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    4. Re: Data Only plan by Miamicanes · · Score: 2

      Because doing otherwise would force them to scrap ss7 with something else, and nobody can agree what that replacement should be, or how to deploy it in a way that allows a gradual phase-in instead of a disruptive & risky instant switch-over.

    5. Re:Data Only plan by unixisc · · Score: 1

      A data device, without a handset, can still do text messaging.

      No, that number cannot be used in that way. Like my iPhone number is (123) 456-7890, and my iPad number is (123) 456-7809. I can't send a text to the latter number, which is why the GP's question makes sense. Why not allow the phone number to be used for data-only connections as well? You don't need to use the voice spectrum

    6. Re: Data Only plan by tidepool · · Score: 1

      Find a friend with Fi. Transfer number to google voice. Have them get you a data sim. Pay friend monthly for what you use. 1 cent, 1 mb. Hangouts calls use about 1 cent/min.

    7. Re:Data Only plan by John.Banister · · Score: 1

      Because that's how they index their billing?

  4. All my devices? by jabberw0k · · Score: 2

    Does this include my (T-Mobile) flip-phone and my home and office VOIP telephones? In 1996, USWest (before they were Qwest or CenturyLink) gave me One Number service that would ring both my mobile (if it was on) and my land-line (if it wasn't busy) and have a single voicemail box between them. For the past 15 years, apparently, that would be too advanced of a technology for anyone to offer. Sad.

    1. Re:All my devices? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      In 1996, USWest (before they were Qwest or CenturyLink) gave me One Number service that would ring both my mobile (if it was on) and my land-line (if it wasn't busy) and have a single voicemail box between them.

      “Three Numbers for the software kings under the sky,
      Seven for the business lords in halls of stone,
      Nine for mortal men, doomed to die,
      One for the Dark CEO on his dark throne
      In the Land of USWest where the Shadows lie.
      One Number to rule them all, One Number to find them,
      One Number to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.
      In the Land of USWest where the Shadows lie.”

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      #DeleteChrome
  5. Project Fi by ChrisC1234 · · Score: 2

    I already get almost all of this with Project Fi. I can receive calls on any computer; calls are forwarded to any other numbers I want; and so on. The only thing I can't easily do is get temporary numbers. And all of these features don't cost anything extra.

    1. Re:Project Fi by gweilo8888 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Shame Project Fi is so badly overpriced in the first place and limited to almost no choice of hardware. I pay $40/line for unlimited voice, texts and data with T-Mobile, with the only catch being that streaming video is throttled to bandwidth sufficient for a 480p feed. With Project Fi, that'd get me a paltry 2GB of data per line before I was paying more than I am now for T-Mobile.

      I just checked my usage, and on my phone I'm using 2.9GB/month currently, while my tablet is using 9.7GB/month. (And that's for cellular data only, Wi-Fi not included.) Can't check my other two lines right this second, but even if we pretend that they're not using any data at all, I'd already be paying an extra $50/month for Project Fi over my current plan, which allows me to choose my own device (I bought mine retail from Asia using Expansys), and which is fast and reliable almost everywhere I go (literally the only place it has been spotty for me was Austin, Texas, but my friends on other carriers were all complaining about their coverage there too.)

      You couldn't persuade me to switch to Project Fi if you tried.

    2. Re:Project Fi by CrashNBrn · · Score: 1

      For your usage perhaps. For our usage, Project-Fi is ~$45-$55/mos for two lines, w/ 2GB of data --- and unused data which is usually 1GB or more is refunded every cycle.

      You also only need a Pixel or Nexus for SIM registration. Most phones seem to work fine with the service otherwise. I used an 2-3yo Nexus to register, and then put the SIM into my Xiaomi Redmi 3 Pro Prime (along with an 80GB microSD).

    3. Re:Project Fi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For a few years I’ve been using a ‘little-known’ T-Mobile plan that can only be purchased from WalMart online for $30 a month, which for me provides a better value than Project Fi, except when I travel internationally.

      I recommend a two step process, so I’ll provide two URLs. The first is a $5 SIM card, and the 2nd is The Plan, which supports Binge-On! Meaning outside of my 5Gb high speed LTE data, I can listen to unlimited Pandora at work, and watch unlimited Hulu & Netflix on the bus commuting to and from work. I use my data mostly for tethering via Android’s wifi hotspot to an Ubuntu computer. I get fantastic mostly equal up/down speeds in the DC Metro area too.

      https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LPPHHFK?ref%5F=sr%5F1%5F1&qid=1479560309&sr=8-1&keywords=t-mobile%20SIM&pldnSite=1

      https://www.walmart.com/ip/Tmobile-30-Wireless-Airtime-Card/15443357

      If I consume over 5Gb (Bingo-on stuff excepted) it drops to unlimited 64K speed until the next billing month starts. Texts at least sent from the US are free. I know I couldn’t send any from outside the US; or maybe it was they were very expensive. I think that was the case; they’re expensive to send overseas. They only give 100 minutes of GSM calls, but more can be purchased for .10 a minute which has proven to be useful several times. But be warned: T-Mobile’s GUI is intentionally trying to get you to switch away from your current plan, so don’t do it! Just add more money to the account so you can make more calls. And 5Gb of LTE data is the limit until refill day.

  6. Account details exposed by phorm · · Score: 2

    Yeaaaaah, you might want to hold off on signing up for that just yet.

    1. Re:Account details exposed by gweilo8888 · · Score: 1

      Yeaaaaah, you might want to read where the article says that problem was already fixed.

    2. Re:Account details exposed by phorm · · Score: 1

      They say it's all fixed, but the fact that they rolled out with such a fairly obvious yet serious bug - especially after recently professing a strong focus on security - doesn't exactly fill my heart with confidence and trust.

  7. But voicemail remains clumsy just the same by Provocateur · · Score: 1

    Unless each one is converted to text so I can skip all unnecessary messages, and jump to the one which has my ETD at JFK.

    Or shall we live with these google voice wannabes? Time to make us excited about technology again.

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    1. Re:But voicemail remains clumsy just the same by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I signed up with T-mobile in early 2014. I had free visual voicemail. I never bothered to port google voice over to my new line since that's what I had mainly used it for. Then some time earlier this year, it just stopped working. The app is still on my phone, but it doesn't work. When I went looking for clues, I found their website said it's an additional fee to use. So maybe they added a fee to it and dropped the service for existing customer. That's the best conclusion I can come to. I just set up google voice again and went on my way.

  8. Howzabout no? by Snotnose · · Score: 1

    In www I have classes of websites. Each class has it's own login and it's own password. Things like /., Soylent News and Fark? Same login, same password. Things like my bank or investment companies? All have different logins and different passwords. Things in between are in between.

    If you think I'm going to use my phone number for everything you've got to rethink you're strategy. At least concerning me. My worry is, 90% of your customers will jump the the "oh hell yeah" phase, completely skipping the "um, but...." phase.

    1. Re:Howzabout no? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for the heads up for anyone who wants to compromise your accounts.

    2. Re:Howzabout no? by Snotnose · · Score: 1

      Have yet to see any reason for someone to compromise my lowest level logins, including /. Wanna steal it? Have at it, I don't give a shit. Don't see any reason to give a shit, except for having a low member number.

      Want more snotnose accounts? Ultimate guitar, yahoo news, reddit

      Keep in mind there are at least 6 snotnoses out there, some are skateboarders, one is a priest, one an amatuer guitar player. Been 2-3 years since I've googled snotnose, less than half the hits are me.

  9. Yes, and $xxx million to build the system by raymorris · · Score: 1

    Yes, that's the demand side of supply and demand. Also, they spend a couple hundred million or whatever building the system nationwide, and recovered that $xxx million plus the interest they paid (or could have received) on that $xxx million, 25 cents at a time. That's the supply side.

    AFTER they spent however much to build it, the incremental cost to send one MORE text was low, but they needed to pay off the loan of $xxx million that they used to build it in the first place.

  10. Hopefully its not just GV by execthis · · Score: 1

    What I hope this is is the ability to go running and have your smart watch act as your phone. Get in your car and have the car stereo act as a phone. Then switch it back to the mobile phone device. That's something GV does not do or if it does it requires wifi.

    The way I understand this to work is that each device's IMEI can be added to the pool for a particular number and you can select on the fly which device(s) are active. In addition they are offering that you can have multiple numbers and multiple IMEI's pooled between them.

    The only thing surprising about this is why, in 2017, this hasn't happened sooner.

    1. Re:Hopefully its not just GV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GV can also be used to make calls through you cellular voice network when you don't have wifi.

    2. Re:Hopefully its not just GV by kwerle · · Score: 1

      What I hope this is is the ability to go running and have your smart watch act as your phone. Get in your car and have the car stereo act as a phone. Then switch it back to the mobile phone device. That's something GV does not do or if it does it requires wifi.

      My prius seamlessly transfers my [google voice] iphone calls to and from my phone as I'm starting/stopping the car. It just works.

      I've never tried to transfer calls between other devcies - though I feel like it's supposed to work - as long as all those devices support gvoice.

      The way I understand this to work is that each device's IMEI can be added to the pool for a particular number and you can select on the fly which device(s) are active. In addition they are offering that you can have multiple numbers and multiple IMEI's pooled between them.

      The only thing surprising about this is why, in 2017, this hasn't happened sooner.

      Because competition vs. standards.

  11. T-Mobile == Weasels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Used to have T-Mobile, but moved to an address where there coverage was spotty to non-existent. I complained and complained over a period of months, but ultimately had to fork over $800 to them to buy out my contracts. (No hardware--it was for a discounted rate plan.)

    I wouldn't do business with them again if they were the last provider on the planet.

  12. One number for ALL my devices! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even my burner phones?

  13. iDevices by GrahamJ · · Score: 1

    If your devices are Apple products you already have this, no ISP support required.

  14. NSA wet dream by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously. ATT's baby?