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US Presidential Election Was Most 'Talked About' Topic In 2016, Says Facebook (phys.org)

What may come as no surprise to Facebook users, the social media company announced in a blog post that the U.S. presidential election was the most "talked about" topic on Facebook in 2016. Phys.Org highlights the other most-discussed topics in its report: The bitterly contested election in which Donald Trump defeated Hillary Clinton was ranked as the leading issue, followed by Brazil's political developments which included the impeachment of president Dilma Rousseff, Facebook said in a blog post. On the lighter side at number three was the runaway success of Pokemon Go, the location-based augmented reality game for smartphone users. Other subject matters shared among Facebook's 1.79 billion users were more sober, with the fourth leading topic the "Black Lives Matter" movement, followed by the election in the Philippines of Rodrigo Duterte. Number six on the list was the Olympic games, followed by Brexit, the Super Bowl and the deaths of rock star David Bowie and boxing icon Muhammad Ali. Facebook said it measured leading topics by how frequently an issue was mentioned in posts made between January 1 and November 27.

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  1. Election? by frovingslosh · · Score: 4, Funny

    We had an election? Why wasn't there any news about it?

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    1. Re:Election? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      How am I supposed to know? I'm not on Facebook for Facebook to tell me that.

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    2. Re:Election? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, that 11 month year sort of says it all.

      And there was no mention of the bots used by both parties to plant stories, driving up the ratings.

      I thought the most common story on Facebook in the last year was "selfie."

    3. Re:Election? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facebook only cares about numbers, not if they're real people or the reasons.
      When people realize that Facebook is a house of cards, the soul-less pit of hell made for narcissists, sycophants and stalkers it will crumble.

      http://www.liveleak.com/view?i...
      http://www.wsj.com/articles/fa...

    4. Re:Election? by unixisc · · Score: 2

      Duh!!! Every election year, the election is the most talked about subject. Granted that Trump being the subject also helped, but even w/o that, had it been Jim Gilmore vs Lincoln Chafee, it would still have been the most talked about.

    5. Re:Election? by Xyrus · · Score: 1

      There was news about it, but most of it was fake.

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    6. Re:Election? by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

      We had an election? Why wasn't there any news about it?

      I think it might have been mentioned in the Bible somewhere

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    7. Re:Election? by imatter · · Score: 1

      Let me quickly calculate a code for that... 5777. I admit, I did not come up with that but, http://www.wnd.com/2016/11/rab...

    8. Re:Election? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it might have been mentioned in the Bible somewhere

      Think I found it: Revelation 6:4
      Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make people kill each other. To him was given a large sword.

    9. Re:Election? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      News stories about fake news are fake.

    10. Re:Election? by Vainglorious+Coward · · Score: 1

      Facebook only cares about numbers, not if they're real people

      Tell that to Marty the Marmot

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    11. Re:Election? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its not the most talked about until FACEBOOK says it is.

  2. Keep me busy blocking all the stupid posts by jfdavis668 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I spent months blocking all the stupid posts people were putting up and sharing. Both sides were ridiculous.

    1. Re:Keep me busy blocking all the stupid posts by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      I never dealt with comments in the general. However with how I was treated by HRC supporters, after the primary was over I wiped it all. Facebook 2016 wasn't anything like Facebook 2006 or the Facebook 2004 I joined. It had become the lowest common denominator and was more or less subscribing to "Forwards from ultra conservative Grandma" and then both sides yelling at each other talking past each other.

      I honestly don't miss it. I don't miss reading the random ass comments or links from people I cursorily knew. I have the pull power of a grand child to get my mother and MIL onto another service.

      The hardest part is unlearning the muscle memory I have from sitting down at a computer and opening Reddit, Slashdot and Facebook tabs.

    2. Re:Keep me busy blocking all the stupid posts by RabidTimmy · · Score: 1

      I hoped once the election was over, all the political posts would stop. But they didn't.

    3. Re:Keep me busy blocking all the stupid posts by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Actually, the annoying part is /. making it clickbait for much of its traffic. I generally come here hoping to read about the latest news about things like Apple, Android, Windows, IPv6, Offshoring, et al. Instead, the bulk of it was pure politics, not even tech related politics, which I'd still understand. But stuff about the latest scandal about either Trump or Clinton

      I really hope to read less of that. Not b'cos of anything I think or feel about our new president elect, but rather, b'cos I come here to discuss the above topics, rather than engage in flame throwing w/ people who I won't agree w/ and who won't agree w/ me

    4. Re:Keep me busy blocking all the stupid posts by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      It's not over. We're getting a play by play coverage of the transition team. Every visitor Trump sees at the Trump Tower is interviewed endlessly. I didn't even know Obama had a transition team. I's sure he did but I hardly heard anything about it. I seem to remember some stir about one appointee owing a lot of back taxes but not much else.

    5. Re:Keep me busy blocking all the stupid posts by halivar · · Score: 1

      Scrutinizing the president is back in vogue with the everyone-but-Fox media. If we got nothing else from this election, at least we now only have one outlet carrying the president's water for him, instead of all-but-one.

    6. Re:Keep me busy blocking all the stupid posts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's okay buddy. I know you've fallen on hard times now that the sweet, sweet election shit posting money has run out.

      Other countries have elections too, maybe you can ply your trade overseas.

    7. Re:Keep me busy blocking all the stupid posts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This isn't scrutiny, any more than birthers scrutinized Obama.

    8. Re:Keep me busy blocking all the stupid posts by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      It depends on who you watch on FOX. Sean Hannity worships Trump but some of the others aren't that hot on him. I know Shepard Smith is often quite critical of him.

  3. More like "most bitched about" by Snotnose · · Score: 1

    Nobody I know liked either candidate. I, and probably 1 other friend, went for Gary Johnson. Yeah, I went GJ.

    All my other friends bitched about the 2 choices, yet voted for one of the evils anyway.

    1. Re:More like "most bitched about" by skids · · Score: 2

      ...and so did you. Nobody said there was *only* two evils.

    2. Re: More like "most bitched about" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong. Everyone liked Trump, they just weren't allowed to admit it because the media would turn people against them.

    3. Re:More like "most bitched about" by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...and so did you. Nobody said there was *only* two evils.

      I voted Cthulhu. Because this time around, it was the lesser evil.

    4. Re: More like "most bitched about" by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      Wrong. Everyone liked Trump, they just weren't allowed to admit it because the media would turn people against them.

      That's not what the exit polls said.

      A majority of voters did not like Clinton.
      A majority of voters did not like Trump. (Slightly more than Clinton actually.)

      That means there were people who did not like X but voted for X anyway. (X = Clinton or Trump.)

      If you actually think that everyone liked Trump, then you are delusional.

      As for people not being "allowed" to admit liking Trump, well what about all those people at his rallies? What about all those Republicans who supported Trump despite not being "allowed" to do so by the al-powerful and scary media?

      Your post is a pile of steaming nonsense.

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    5. Re: More like "most bitched about" by unixisc · · Score: 4, Interesting

      As the exit polls showed, people lied to the pollsters. The exit polls seemed to indicate that Clinton would win, but it was the vote counting from the various states, particularly the battleground ones, that ultimately demonstrated otherwise. The people who voted for Trump did like him, but were too pissed off at the media to give a shit about them. The ones who disliked both mainly sat out the election: that is why Clinton underperformed among groups that her campaign expected her to win w/ larger margins.

    6. Re:More like "most bitched about" by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      I knew a few women that were excited about Hilliary being voted the first female president. I know a few other people that were excited about Trump "Making America Great Again." I'd say maybe 30% on either side seemed positive about their candidate. The other 70% seemed to vote while holding their nose to avoid the smell.

    7. Re: More like "most bitched about" by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      As the exit polls showed, people lied to the pollsters.

      No, there's no evidence of that.

      The exit polls seemed to indicate that Clinton would win, but it was the vote counting from the various states, particularly the battleground ones, that ultimately demonstrated otherwise.

      Granted, Clinton neglected the battleground states, obviously to her detriment. But saying the exit polls "seemed to indicate Clinton would win?" I say again: a majority of voters didn't like Clinton, and a majority of voters didn't like Trump. You can't infer a win for either candidate based on that.

      The people who voted for Trump did like him, but were too pissed off at the media to give a shit about them. The ones who disliked both mainly sat out the election: that is why Clinton underperformed among groups that her campaign expected her to win w/ larger margins.

      Partially, you have a point, Clinton did not connect with the Obama-revolution Democrats, and that cost her. But neither Clinton nor Trump showed a majority approval rating in the exit polls. And that means some voted for a candidate they didn't like, be it Clinton or Trump.

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    8. Re:More like "most bitched about" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What is Aleppo?

    9. Re: More like "most bitched about" by RogueyWon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Beware simple explanations for polling failures, particularly explanations which align comfortably with your existing beliefs.

      It hasn't been a fantastic couple of years for the polling industry. After a period around the turn of the decade where people thought that polling had become a pretty precise art, we've had some major polling controversies in recent years. I actually get horribly nerdy about some of this stuff; I'm not a pollster, but I find polling fascinating.

      Before I go any further; I'm in the UK and most of my knowledge is based on the UK polling scene. That said, the US and UK scenes have aligned quite a lot over the last two decades and, while polling a relatively small country like the UK will always be different to polling a very large one like the US, there are a lot of commonalities as well.

      It's worth noting that most political polling is not a big earner for the companies that carry it out. It's a competitive market and margins for pollsters are not huge. Most polling companies are primarily market research firms who do most of their work for commercial clients. Political polling is often a loss-leader for them. It gets their name in the press and, if they can claim "we were the most accurate pollster for the election", that's a good way of winning more lucrative commercial business. The commercial incentive on most pollsters, therefore, is to be accurate. Contrary to popular belief/conspiracy theory, very few deliberately set out to mislead and those who do are easy to identify (generally by the wording of the questions they ask, or a refusal to disclose data) and mostly ignored by the mainstream media.

      But back to some of our problems with polling in the UK in the last couple of years...

      Our own 2015 General Election had a fairly major polling failure. The polling pointed to Labour and the Conservatives (our two main parties) being more or less neck or neck, to the extent that it looked almost impossible that either of them would be able to form a majority government. The final weeks of the campaign were dominated by speculation over the likely distribution of seats and the possible combinations of parties that might be able to form governing coalitions (which probably influenced how people voted).

      When election day came, it became clear almost as soon as the polls closed that the pre-election polls had been very badly wrong. The Conservatives had performed somewhat above expectations and Labour had performed somewhat below them. Moreover, the pollsters had also failed to map vote totals into Parliamentary seats correctly (in the UK, each of our 650 constituencies elects a Member of Parliament and, as with US States/Districts, those constituencies do not all behave alike). The result was that, contrary to all expectations, the Conservative Party formed a majority government.

      This triggered a bit of a crisis for our polling industry, not least since, following a highly accurate polling record from the 2010 election as well as various local, European and London Mayoral elections, a lot of weight and credibility had been attached the polling. The British Polling Council, which is a self-regulatory body for our polling industry, commissioned a post-mortem on what had happened.

      The initial public narrative on what had happened was pretty stark. The newspapers (and various online forums) were filled with cries of "shy Tories" or "lazy Labour". These are two politically-comfortable labels that have been used to explain polling failures in the past. The first is the idea that Conservative voters might be embarrassed to admit their real voting intention to a pollster. Labour supporters like this one. The latter is that Labour supporters are too lazy to turn out and vote on election day. Conservative supporters like this one.

      The actual post-mortem comprehensively rubbished both theories. The problem was one of sampling. Pollsters use a range of sampling and weighting techniques to turn a sample size of less than 2,000 people (a sample of around 5,000

    10. Re:More like "most bitched about" by wbr1 · · Score: 1

      Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

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    11. Re: More like "most bitched about" by tomhath · · Score: 1

      People didn't lie. The mistake was how the pollsters counted; they assumed turnout would be similar to 2012 - so districts that turned out well for Obama were weighted too heavily; when Democrats were given a choice they chose to stay home rather than vote for Hillary.

    12. Re: More like "most bitched about" by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      Yes, there were polling issues even going into the election. Several articles came out talking about how hard it was getting to poll people. Most if not all polling is done through landlines, to which younger people just don't have any more. There are strong differences between age groups and it's hard to guess how many people who say they will vote actually will. Small groups were weighted strongly and skewed differences. On the day of the election, exit polls were done where it was thought there would be battle ground areas, meanwhile areas that were thought to be known variables and never got exit poll attention actually changed a great deal and voted differently than expected.

    13. Re: More like "most bitched about" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People didn't lie to the polls, they simply didn't participate. Further, every news agency had already picked their winner long before polls even started. The entire thing was one giant manipulation attempt that failed.

    14. Re: More like "most bitched about" by RogueyWon · · Score: 1

      Yes, one of the big stories of the US 2016 election does seem to be that states and counties which were not considered to be in play suddenly switched camps. What I'm less sure about is how much pollsters could have done to predict this.

      Based on what little data I've seen so far, I think one of the tactical errors Clinton's campaign made was to focus too heavy on "attacking" (hitting not only swing-states, but also states traditionally in the Republican column) and not enough on defending states that looked like they were in the bank.

      The UK's 2015 General Election again offers a direct parallel here. Labour's "ground game" focused on 100 Conservative and Lib-Dem held "target seats". The Conservatives, on the other hand, went for a "40/40" strategy. They attacked 40 of the seats they thought they were most likely to take and threw resources at defending their own 40 most vulnerable seats.

      The 40/40 strategy proved far superior to the 100-targets one.

  4. And so... by Whatsmynickname · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Let's talk about it some more!

    1. Re:And so... by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Precisely. When there is nothing about the election remaining to discuss that's germane to this site, let's have another braindead discussion on the election. Fuck you, BeauHD!!!

    2. Re: And so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, what a cunt.

  5. In US? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or like ever? Perhaps this story is as true as the Black Friday/Cyber Monday story that forgot about single's day

  6. So Talk About Something Different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I brought a corpse to a party, ripped her pussy open, shoved my head inside and yelled, "Look, everybody! A DEAD person's giving BIRTH to me"!

    And, before one of you fuckers mods me down just ask yourself which of you has never done that.

    1. Re:So Talk About Something Different by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Unless you're talking about Clinton, this is off-topic. ;-p

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  7. Talk about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Pop music. Talk about. Pop music.

    Pop - pop - pop music.

  8. And nothing of value was said. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (NT)

  9. D'uh by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

    It's not like it's a single one day event. The whole thing is dragged out for over a year with the primaries and everything.

    1. Re:D'uh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's still dragging on Slashdot, the guy who posted this constantly posts useless shit.
      He may be retarded.

    2. Re:D'uh by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      The whole thing is dragged out for over a year with the primaries and everything.

      This was the year when one candidate accused the father of another of killing JFK, then bragged in a presidential debate of having a big dick.

      This election seemed to go on a lot longer than just a year.

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  10. Fake Title Alert by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    TRUMP! Was Most 'Talked About' Topic In 2016, Says Facebook

    FTFY

    1. Re:Fake Title Alert by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      TRUMP! Was Most 'Talked About'

      Indeed! Love him or hate him, he is entertaining. If you love him, he's entertaining at Making America Great Again; and if you hate him, he's comparable to one or more of the following:

      1. Slow-motion train wreck
      2. Batman villain in action
      3. A 5-year-old who's had too much cake and ice-cream

      Just can't turn your eyes away.

  11. Write-in: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wrote in other: 'new election'

    You could have done something similiar to voice your displeasure.

    Even if the write-in didn't win (just like any other candidate wouldn't have) you could have better shown your displeasure with the options presented to you. If enough people voted the same 'other' to be statistically significant it could raise some eyebrows and convinces others to do the same next election.

  12. Wait for 2017... by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

    when it is revealed the elections were hacked and a new on is taking place!

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    1. Re:Wait for 2017... by MouseR · · Score: 1

      No need to hack elections when 46% of the electorate does't participate.

      You only need to tender to the stupid fncks with a total absence of logics, science and facts.

    2. Re:Wait for 2017... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't this the fake news that made us recount a state that uses only paper ballots?

    3. Re: Wait for 2017... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thats not how it works son. Who hacked it this time. ? The martians

    4. Re: Wait for 2017... by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      Found my father, finally.

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    5. Re:Wait for 2017... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The DNC should probably be arrested and tried for treason given how they tried to rig the primaries.

  13. Most talked about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It may have been the most talked about, but somehow we still ended up with the worst option, by far.

    2020 Presidential Election desperately needs:
    * Allow everyone to vote in BOTH primaries
    * Ranked preference / instant-runoff voting in primaries and in the November general election
    * Eliminate Electoral College via constitutional amendment or NPVIC
    * Possibly also eliminate President/VP "ticket" and let #2 vote-getter become VP (may require constitutional amendment to override the 25th amendment -- especially to remove the president's ability to nominate a new VP; that should be done by popular vote)

    1. Re:Most talked about by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      It'll never change. Short of what ever causes the USA's* end we're never going to end first past the post or expand to 5-10 parties like Europe has.

      * We're barely teens on the timescale of nations. The people that honestly think the USA is the most amusing country ever and will last for ever have never opened a history book.

    2. Re:Most talked about by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      * Ranked preference / instant-runoff voting in primaries and in the November general election

      This. There is no perfect electoral system, but of all of them, runoff (and as a compromise, instant runoff) has been shown mathematically to be the "most" fair.

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  14. Thank goodness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank goodness Trump put you whiny sissy liberal city cunts in your place. Christmas came early:

    - Trump president
    - Republican senate
    - Republican house
    - Republican supreme court
    - Nancy "Cryptkeeper" Pelosi and Harry "Droopy" Reid minority "leaders"
    - DNC exposed as corrupt
    - Democrat party a shambles
    - Clinton in constant danger of prosecution
    - Podesta in constant danger of somebody proving what "pizza" he's talking about

    I'm asking Santa for popcorn this year. Buckle up Snowflakes, you're in for as bumpy ride.

    1. Re:Thank goodness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump may be president, but all those country bumpkins he scammed are still uneducated racists with little to no chance of ever breaking into the knowledge economy.

      Trump settled a fraud lawsuit for $25 million the day after the election.

      All you rubes in the hinterlands are about to learn a hard, well-deserved lesson about acting against your own self interest based on the obvious lies of a con-man.

    2. Re:Thank goodness by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      - Podesta in constant danger of somebody proving what "pizza" he's talking about

      It's entertaining watching the 13 year old 4Chan/The_Donald not understand why anyone would talk about Pizza that much.

      It's fairly evident they've never worked in an office. I'd say a good 80% of my work related e-mails are "WTF are we going to eat lunch on Friday".

    3. Re: Thank goodness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We rubes in the hinterlands will keep deciding America's future forever. By cramming yourselves in $5k/mo studio apartments you're making our votes worth more every election. Don't worry, though, we think you people are cute, we'll probably decide to keep you around. You make the most adorable noises when you don't get your way.

    4. Re: Thank goodness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but you see the folks who can afford to live in the city are the "haves".

      The folks scrapping by on $10 an hour working in a warehouse in the hinterlands are the "have nots".

      While you rubes are gullible enough to think that Trump is looking out for you - his only concern beneffiting the "haves".

      His supporters working for less than a living wage are going to get a subtle but decisive middle finger, while the upper income folks get a tax cut we don't need.

      We'll still be making 6 figures while those slack jawed yokels wonder why the minimum wage hasn't gone up with the cost of living...

    5. Re:Thank goodness by jandersen · · Score: 1

      One has to admire your bravery and honesty in revealing your true name in this forum, mr Coward; I personally prefer to hide behind a pseudonym, because I am scared that anybody finds out.

      So, as you say, your guy seems to have it all his way; of course that also means that later, when his policies turn out to be major disasters, you can't hide behind "Oh, but the senate/house/... opposed us all the way, so of course it didn't work out." And unless he turns out to be a truly astoundingly brilliant leader, he will face growing, popular opposition - starting from 50%, in fact - and popular opposition is not as easily controlled as the senate and the house.

      Here is what I think is likely to happen: He'll start out in typical, bumbling style, maybe initially he will have the support of the Republicans, but fairly soon the deep resentment that was all too visible during the primaries, will come to the surface again, and they will start opposing him in growing numbers. The popular opposition will spread from the current 50% to something much higher, because a lot of the people who voted for him don't like him much, and a lot of the angry people who voted for him, did so because they hope against hope that he will make things better - when he fails, as he must, they will turn against him with fury. And then come the midterm elections, where he loses the senate and the house.

      Meanwhile, the Democrats will have 4 years in relative peace, where they have the chance to do some serious rethinking of their whole setup, and can work on reconnecting with the voters. They won't be in power anywhere, and will therefore not get their name attached to unpopular policies that come out of government, but they will still be under pressure from their electorate to improve their ways, so it is conceivable that they will actually do so.

      So, all in all, it will be worth watching, certainly. Where the whining will come from, though - we'll see, won't we?

    6. Re:Thank goodness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Almost all of the whining came from the party that has a donkey(jackass) as its mascot. I don't see that changing anytime soon.

      Yours truly,
      AC

    7. Re: Thank goodness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haves? What do you have? Dirty overcrowded streets, tiny overpriced apartments? You need six figures to pay rent on your sad $5k/mo studio apartment. Meanwhile, us have-nots can spend less and live in a 4k+ square foot house on acres of beautiful land. Haves, huh? You can have it. Maybe once you people thin yourself out a bit more (I hear Chicago is doing well this year) we can use the emptied cities to store our garbage. I mean the rest of the garbage, not just the throwaway sickly "organic" foodstuffs we sell you morons for top dollar.

  15. Of course it was... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course it was the most talked about.

    Our rigged political system had us choosing between a war criminal and a demagogue -- why wouldn't people talk about that?

    "It may not be good for America, but it's damn good for CBS." -- CBS broadcasting CEO Leslie Moonves explaining why CBS gave far more 'news' coverage to Donald Trump compared to other candidates in the 2016 primary elections.

  16. Global Warming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Holy fuck the world got a lot warmer under Obama during the past 8 years!!

    The Leftist chumps took his rhetorical bait in 2008 and 2012 as always, but he did nothing!

  17. It was yuuuuuge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nobody talks about elections more than my elections get talked about. Your election is trash.

  18. Buckle up Buttercup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trump's in violation of the Emolument clause, he receives money from foreign investors. He said he'd fix it within two weeks, HE HASN'T, instead he's on one of his twitter rants, trying to draw attention away.

    Why does it matter?

    Because the Electoral College vote is not a formality, and they cannot vote him in when he violates the constitution, ethics lawyers on both sides have remind him of this. He says he won't take the $400k salary, but will accept Rubles, Rupees, Yen, Yuan??? No.

    So they are supposed to vote in a man against the wishes of the American people, who is an agent of foreign governments.

    He's in violation of anti-corruption clauses too:

    His company had contracts with the Federal Government. Anti corruption clauses void those leases. Federal employees cannot benefit from Federal Contracts, directly or indirectly. e.g. The Old Post Office in Washington is like that. He leases it from the government, invested $40m, and loses the lease if he becomes a federal employee. It doesn't matter if he puts it into a blind trust, he cannot benefit directly or indirectly from that lease. The lease is void.

    You may think he'll lose $40 million and anyway he's a billionaire he won't mind. But it wasn't his $40 million. He scammed investors for $200 million on that project, the actual investment is a fraction of that size, the rest is taken as money into Trump co. to cover losses elsewhere.

    1. Re:Buckle up Buttercup by skids · · Score: 1

      Trump's in violation of the Emolument clause

      Not yet. He has to be sworn in first to be in violation. It probably will not take more than 24 hours before a transaction that violates it occurs.

    2. Re:Buckle up Buttercup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your light-hearted spoof was a funny read.
      Hillary lost.

    3. Re:Buckle up Buttercup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hillary Clinton gets backing from Saudi Arabia and George Soros (who says he wants to break the USA).

  19. 332 out of 366 by pgn674 · · Score: 1

    Is analyzing 90.7% of the year enough to establish most talked about in 2016 facts? What if a more iconic person dies tomorrow? There's still 23 days to talk about that.

  20. Already in violation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    That FEC election disclosure form, already has a 1 year prison sentence for making false claims. He claims to have 'overdisclosed' but actually he didn't reveal his own finances at all. He revealed a selected set of company finances that can be verified are fictional.

    That form alone has a 1 year prison sentence and $50k fine.

    But I really think people in the press missed the big picture here. His debt is far bigger than he claims $900 - $2 billion. His income is a tiny fraction of the amount claimed, the largest income I could find was $19 million from buildings he doesn't manage, offset by losses in other business. So where's the money trail from funding this?

    I looked at his mortgages to see if he was increasing his borrowing... and he is, but everything is already maxed out there. Even his house, he's selling the land around the house to developers to raise money and he owes $7.5 million on it (it cost $7.2m).

    It doesn't seem to be Putin donating cash, or similar direct money flow, rather it looks like a simple Ponzi scheme. If you read the Indian co-investors statements (in Indian), they're investing in his US properties too. Yet this investment isn't covered at Trump's end, loans to Trump co, against properties in Trumps name appear to be the full value of the property. i.e. he's duping investors, they pay the property, hne borrows against their property, then using the money for himself to fund his other businesses.

    And he's a truely terrible businessman. One the few disclosed businesses he has the returns are abysmal, less than 2%. The Scottish one makes a loss. He claims hundreds of millions in investment, yet the earth bank he built cost $5000 (he sent the bill to his neighbours).

    This would be the first Ponzi President.

    I also reject the title "President Elect" since fewer people voted for him he's not elected. It's "We the people", not "We the gerrymandered districts". /Rant

    1. Re: Already in violation by Jesus+H+Rolle · · Score: 1
      It's "We the people", not "We the gerrymandered districts".

      Those gerrymandered districts are usually called "States". Do you propose redrawing their borders?

    2. Re: Already in violation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They don't understand their talking points, but when not provided new ones they try and reapply previous ones to the current issues.

      Try and have a debate on issues with a liberal, you have to get them to stop screaming "racist" first, but once you get there you realize how little they understand. Just look up Jill Stein's plan for paying for college "I would direct the federal reserve to print the money and pay it to the universities for the students and won't need to involved Congress at all". It was comical how little she understands, and then I heard she has a doctorates degree as well.

      There can't be any real discussions on issues anymore in the US.

    3. Re: Already in violation by skids · · Score: 1

      Do you propose redrawing their borders?

      No, but it would be a good thing for state governments to actually represent the will of their voters and stop the winner-take-all bullshit.

    4. Re: Already in violation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good luck with that. Trump wins by an even bigger margin when you do it by congressional district. Try again.

  21. What would have been different? by SuperKendall · · Score: 0

    Allow everyone to vote in BOTH primaries

    In most states non-party voters could vote in any primary.

    You know what happened in states where Democrats could vote for the Republican primary candidate? Many of them came in and voted for Trump. Because they thought, who could possibly lose against Trump?

    Then they went back to the Democrat primary and voted for the one person that could...

    Ranked preference / instant-runoff voting in primaries and in the November general election

    Why would the results have been any different? If you add up all the Stein/Johnson votes it's not enough to have the whole election results turn out differently, even IF all such voters listed Hillary second - many would not have.

    Eliminate Electoral College

    And have all candidates spend the whole time in Texas and California, ignoring the rest of the country? No thanks.

    You have no idea what a wildfire you are trying to ignite, to have the entire rest of the nation feel utterly ignored.

    Possibly also eliminate President/VP "ticket" and let #2 vote-getter become VP

    You remember the VP from the movie Dave? Yeah.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:What would have been different? by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      Ranked preference / instant-runoff voting in primaries and in the November general election

      Why would the results have been any different? If you add up all the Stein/Johnson votes it's not enough to have the whole election results turn out differently, even IF all such voters listed Hillary second - many would not have.

      You're right, the results might not have been different for this election, However, an instant-runoff system would increase the viability and influence of down-ballot alternatives in the long run.

      Arrow's Impossibility Theorem shows that it is impossible to devise a voting system that will not fail in some situations. However, there is evidence that some systems are better than others, and instant-runoff is one of the better ones.

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    2. Re: What would have been different? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In most states non-party voters could vote in any primary.

      Wrong. You should know better than to proivde false information, because in reality, only about twenty states have open presidential primaries.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_primaries_in_the_United_States

      That's less than half. Why do you lie?

      You know what happened in states where Democrats could vote for the Republican primary candidate? Many of them came in and voted for Trump. Because they thought, who could possibly lose against Trump?

      Oh, like in 2008, when Rush was doing the same?

      Then they went back to the Democrat primary and voted for the one person that could...

      Double-dipping is not allowed in any of the states. Why would you make this up? Are you so demented that you regurgitate whatever nonsense ideas you can without thinking to see if they are really legitimate? Or do you just enjoy lying?

  22. FUCK ABC NBC CBS FOX CNN MSNBC by Thud457 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    18 months to run an election that should take 6 weeks.
    Time spent discussing the issues : 0%

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    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  23. The power of Hillary's PR machine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yet still they failed to ensure she was elected.

  24. News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I believe this is implied, probably in any election year.