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Linux Kernel 4.9 Officially Released (kernel.org)
"As expected, today, December 11, 2016, Linus Torvalds unleashed the final release of the highly anticipated Linux 4.9 kernel," reports Softpedia. prisoninmate shares their article:
Linux kernel 4.9 entered development in mid-October, on the 15th, when Linus Torvalds decided to cut the merge window short by a day just to keep people on their toes, but also to prevent them from sending last-minute pull requests that might cause issues like it happened with the release of Linux kernel 4.8, which landed just two weeks before first RC of Linux 4.9 hit the streets... There are many great new features implemented in Linux kernel 4.9, but by far the most exciting one is the experimental support for older AMD Radeon graphics cards from the Southern Islands/GCN 1.0 family, which was injected to the open-source AMDGPU graphics driver...
There are also various interesting improvements for modern AMD Radeon GPUs, such as virtual display support and better reset support, both of which are implemented in the AMDGPU driver. For Intel GPU users, there's DMA-BUF implicit fencing, and some Intel Atom processors got a P-State performance boost. Intel Skylake improvements are also present in Linux kernel 4.9.
There's also dynamic thread-tracing, according to Linux Today. (And hopefully they fixed the "buggy crap" that made it into Linux 4.8.) LWN.net calls this "by far the busiest cycle in the history of the kernel project."
There are also various interesting improvements for modern AMD Radeon GPUs, such as virtual display support and better reset support, both of which are implemented in the AMDGPU driver. For Intel GPU users, there's DMA-BUF implicit fencing, and some Intel Atom processors got a P-State performance boost. Intel Skylake improvements are also present in Linux kernel 4.9.
There's also dynamic thread-tracing, according to Linux Today. (And hopefully they fixed the "buggy crap" that made it into Linux 4.8.) LWN.net calls this "by far the busiest cycle in the history of the kernel project."
Linux kernel 4.8, which landed just two weeks before first RC of Linux 4.9
I thought a software release was a "launch." Since landing is the opposite of launching, does that mean 4.8 was discontinued or something? Or will Kanye be "dropping" a new version of the kernel next month?
I'm still on 2.2. Did they skip 3 altogether?
Miles ahead.
You don't know what a kernel is, do you?
The kernel is pretty damn useless if the userland is inaccessible because the init system broke unexpectedly and the system didn't boot properly.
An OS needs a robust kernel, a robust init system and a robust userland. If even just one of those isn't working right, the entire OS is useless.
You don't know what a kernel is, do you?
The kernel is only a very small part of systemd at this point. Nothing to get too worked up about now. Wait until kerneld and kernelctl get to version 1.0 ...
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
You don't know what a kernel is, do you?
Sure, it's that bit of code consisting mostly of device drivers that's awaiting to be assimilated by the systemd.
I think someone needs to "make the init system great, again"
(sorry, lol)
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"It is now safe to switch off your computer."
Or just go back to sysvinit. It worked perfectly fine for a long time, and there was no good reason to switch to systemd.
The kernel is pretty damn useless if the userland is inaccessible because the init system broke unexpectedly and the system didn't boot properly.
Duh, "apt purge systemd" and you can enjoy a reliable init. Just like the solution for most sound problems is "apt purge pulseaudio". Or, closing a link-local security hole by "apt purge avahi-daemon". I think you get the pattern.
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We already had someone like that. After warming up with pulse audio, he was let loose to give us systemd. /s
"There are many great new features [...] but by far the most exciting one is the experimental support for older AMD Radeon graphics cards"
REALLY ?
A feature that is irrelevant to people who do not have a certain brand and model of graphics card is the most exiciting feature ?
Again particularly is pointlessly stupid. There is zero reason for a daemon to centralize men's activity. It's not a privileged port, Udp ports can be reused by many concurrent processes, and the protocol design lends itself well to discovery of services rather than of systems.
We should just give up on Linux and install Windows 10. Compared to Linux, It Just Works (TM).
What do Linux, the army, and my poop all have in common?
They all have kernels in them.
I think someone needs to "make the init system great, again"
More like KISS, basically if all you want is boot -> run -> shutdown in an easy to understand sequence then SysVinit is fine. If you're lucky suspend/resume works too, if you don't get fancy and change attached devices. Simple init.d scripts to start and stop without dependency management. For the people that don't need any more than that everything else will be a massive overcomplification. For those who want a full system resource and container/service management solution it'll never be enough. But I'd say the latter won when Debian switched to systemd, now it's only a matter of time.
Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
Following the patter, it seems like "apt purge anonymous coward" doesn't seem functional yet.
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add:
aptitude purge network-manager network-manager-gnome
"apt purge lunch" works great though. Just ask the bulimics!
Duh, "apt purge systemd" and you can enjoy a reliable init. Just like the solution for most sound problems is "apt purge pulseaudio". Or, closing a link-local security hole by "apt purge avahi-daemon". I think you get the pattern.
Purging pulseaudio can sometimes be problematic for the packaging system. I've always been fond of "sudo chmod a-x `which pulseaudio`". The demon (not a mistype) is inert but the packaging system doesn't freak out.
As a side note, it's actually kind of fascinating to see the amount of horrible software coming out of Redhat these days. I think my laptop has actually become less reliable after a resume than it was 5 years ago. It's hit and miss whether I have sound or networking after a suspend/resume whereas, on the exact same laptop, it was always a given in the past. The culprits? PulseAudio and NetworkManager. Which, unsurprisingly, are also sprung from the same poison well as systemd.
I had to switch to FreeBSD some time ago after systemd caused me lots and lots of problems.
Jeesuz just go on a training course already. Most people transitioned to systemd without even noticing it. If you had specialized custom service management scripts that you didn't understand well enough to be able to port that functionality over the systemd then I don't think you should be blaming the tool. Bad carpenter etc...
Does your CPU only have one core?
Here's a nickel Sonny, buy yourself a real computer.
I tried apt purge lennart but unfortunately it didn't work. He's like malware, he doesn't make himself easy to remove, instead choosing to infect other software on the system.
I had to switch to FreeBSD some time ago after systemd caused me lots and lots of problems.
I don't think you should be blaming the tool. Bad carpenter etc...
Haters gotta hate.
Avahi was developed by Lennart Poettering
Pulseaudio was developed by Lennart Poettering (but has improved massively since).
SystemD is still being developed by Lennart Poettering.
Maybe it's best to wait until he finds a new toy and someone who is keen on incremental improvement instead of rapid bug filled expansion is maintaining systemD.
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I had to switch to FreeBSD some time ago after systemd caused me lots and lots of problems.
If "systemd" is causing you problems then you are the problem.
Anonymity has historically been a useful tool for dealing with bullies and low digit UID slashdotters. Not that those two sets are disjoint.
Or just go back to sysvinit. It worked perfectly fine for a long time, and there was no good reason to switch to systemd.
I don't have much firsthand knowledge here but I suspect this is why systemd has seen such widespread adoption despite its warts. If you don't care about dependency management via declarative syntax that's fine, but distro builders probably appreciate it. If you view its ability to babysit processes as un-UNIXy and a slippery slope leading towards a more Windows-like state of affairs, heck I'd largely agree with you there... but once again, this is something distro builders and many other developers are going to quickly become addicted to. If you think virtualization/containerization features are useless, you're living in the stone age.
You greybeards could have halted this thing in its tracks early on by throwing your weight behind an alternative like OpenRC, but instead the majority appeared to adopt this "there is absolutely no reason to care about any systemd feature whatsoever" attitude... so now we're stuck with the bad solution dominating the ecosystem unless and until enough people can throw their weight behind good solutions and play catchup... and yet people like you are still stuck on the "no solution required, damnit!" point of view.
The psychological parallels between the systemd debacle and the Trump debacle are surprisingly deep. Both are cases where the existence of dire flaws in a proposed solution caused the judgment centers in brains of most detractors (or at least the most of the vocal detractors) to short-circuit.
No need for a training course, you just uninstall systemD and be done with that mess.
He is not alone, and surprisingly things were working far better for decades *before* systemd. You *are* the anomaly here.
I thought they removed hosts file support in 4.9 though (see #12841), aren't you angry about that?
> The damage is already done. The paradigm has already shifted from [whine whine whine]
Just. Fucking. Do. It.
I run Debian. Stable. Even unstable. No systemd. Heck, even no dbus. No Pulse, no Avahi. No Network Manager. It's not that hard, ferchrissake.
If all the whiners did the same, it would be even less hard, because there'd be more experience available.
I'm sick of this stupid mudfest. Systemd proponents get to use systemd and be happy, systemd opponents get to use whatever else and be happy. No need to hate each other, and even less need to hide some dirty agenda behind this utterly useless "war" (for one example: as a systemd opponent myself, I by no means want to be associated to the likes of Mikeeeusa!).
If you're running Ubuntu 16.04 though, kernel 4.8 still is a feature released in February and a future, to be defined kernel is supported a good six months after that. Did annoying notice this? According to that schedule at least, so that you can upgrade with a long and semi-obscure apt-get command.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel...
I'd sure like to upgrade to a GCN card. The low end, low power ones are all GCN 1.0 (Cape Verde and Oland GPUs). A nine month wait for official support is much. And I'm counting from now! Note that you can call it "older" all you want : there's no replacement yet for AMD R7 240 graphics cards.
> Purging pulseaudio can sometimes be problematic for the packaging system.
This is utter nonsense. Show us *one* packaging system dependent on pulseaudio.
I have no pulseaudio installed and my packaging systems are fine.
Does your CPU only have one core?
Here's a nickel Sonny, buy yourself a real computer.
All of my CPUs have several cores, some i7 some i5, even some old Core2 quads. All of these CPUs are looking wistfully at sysvinit, and may change to Devuan or to something based on BSD. You see, NFS - which we use a lot - causes problems with systemd.
See subject: I don't see what you're referring to - point me to it & I wouldn't be upset. I use Windows 7 64-bit myself & IF Mr. T. & crew decide to do that, it's THEIR problem since hosts are a valuable layer of defense on many levels + a speed gainer too (unlike other "so-called 'solutions' that do less &/or use FAR more (addons &->), riddled with security issues (DNS locally installed/antivirus)).
* ... "& 'there ya go'"
APK
P.S.=> Do point me to what you're referrring to - & IF you mean what systemd does? It doesn't do as much as hosts does (dns specific stuff, just like inferior inefficient UBlock uses hosts now it fails on that account & "INFERIOR imitation = the sincerest form of FLATTERY")... apk
You don't know what a kernel is, do you?
Yep. He fries my chickens.
I prefer his original recipe crust to the more modern versions that have the systemd cruft.
Don't give Pottering any fucking ideas!