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Apple Loses In Court, Owes $2 Million For Not Giving Workers Meal Breaks (cnn.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Apple has been ordered to cut a $2 million check for denying some of its retail workers meal breaks. The lawsuit was first filed in 2011 by four Apple employees in San Diego. They alleged that the company failed to give them meal and rest breaks [as required by California law], and didn't pay them in a timely manner, among other complaints. In 2013, the case became a class action lawsuit that included California employees who had worked at Apple between 2007 and 2012, approximately 21,000 people...

The complaint says Apple's culture of secrecy keeps employees from talking about the company's poor working conditions. "If [employees] so much as discuss the various labor policies, they run the risk of being fired, sued or disciplined."

Apple changed their break policy in 2012, according to CNN, which reports that the second half of the case should conclude later this week. The employees that had been affected by Apple's original break policy could get as much as $95 each from Friday's settlement, according to CNN, "but it's likely some of the money will go toward attorney fees."

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  1. Re: Courage by Luthair · · Score: 4, Funny

    Breaks for workers have been with us for a hundred years, it to take courage to change that.

  2. two MILLION dollars.... by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's see: with their market cap at about 620 BILLION dollars, 2 million is: a pinch of shit. They lose more than that annually in stolen office supplies.

  3. Re:Meal breaks by DishpanMan · · Score: 4, Informative

    So people having the right to eat and being paid in a timely manner is bad for business? Unfortunately to counter your point, California has the largest economy in the US, so these laws are obviously not bad for business.

  4. Could be worse... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I recently got a class action settlement from Wal-Mart for $3.66. I would have bought a gift card from the online website to use it elsewhere. Alas, Wal-Mart won't let use that balance for a gift card. Now I have buy something else that I don't need or want from Wal-Mart.

    1. Re:Could be worse... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Funny

      C'mon, you can ALWAYS use a roll of duct tape! Remember, duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it binds the universe together.

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  5. Re:Meal breaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, to counter - the law is fairly clear. Apple chose to transfer that money to lawyers. They could do like most everyone else and just, you know, follow the law. We've had it since before I worked - and I am getting up there now. My first job - at a Burger King franchise when I was 16 - in about 1983 was subject to this rule. Employees who worked more than 5.5 hours got a lunch and two short breaks. More than 3 hours one short break. The rules may have changed a bit since then, but they are still similar at least. It can't be that hard to comply since most businesses manage to do so.

  6. Re:No Meal break... by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 3, Funny

    (Most Europe also has meal brake.

    They aren't very effective though. Bonded composites like those used in the USA make better brake pads.
    It might explain the prevalence of small scooters in European cities. They don't require much braking force to stop.

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  7. For those unfamiliar with California law by Solandri · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Contrary to some of the comments, this is one of those labor laws that I think make a lot of sense (I'm an employer). The exact verbiage is a bit complex, but it basically boils down to:
    • Unpaid 30 min meal break if you work more than 5 hours in a day. Second 30 min meal break at 10 hours.
    • Paid 10 min breaks every 4 hours worked. So two such breaks in a 8 hour workday. Employees can combine this with the meal break for one long lunch break.

    There are some miscellaneous aspects of it covering consecutive hours worked to make allowances for split shifts, but that's the jist of it.

    A lot of people seem to think employers are out to squeeze every drop of life they can from their employees at the lowest wage possible. That might be true for some big companies or awful employers, but the vast majority of us (mostly small businesses) care about our employees. Having small details like break times laid down in law makes our lives easier too, since we don't have to stumble around in a legal grey area guessing what's acceptable and what's not. (That's the situation with illegal immigrants as workers. We're not supposed to hire illegal immigrants, but the government doesn't give us any tools to determine if someone is an illegal immigrant so that we can not-hire them. According to my lawyer, having acceptable copies of government-issued ID on file is enough. Except sometimes we get IDs which are fake, or worse, which might or might not be fake. You can get in trouble for hiring someone whose ID is obviously fake, and you can get in trouble for not-hiring someone whose ID is real. Which leaves you in a pickle when faced with an applicant whose ID looks like could be fake but you're not really sure.)

  8. How much!?!? by Afty0r · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The employees ... could get as much as $95 each

    How on earth can it be so little? Let's say you worked there 5 days a week for one year, and you were denied a 30 minute lunch break on every shift. That would be around 130 hours of your time... or $1300 per employee per year... how does that become $95? If the practices were in place for 5 years, that could be $7500 for a full time worker who was there the whole time.

    1. Re:How much!?!? by laurencetux · · Score: 3, Informative

      the way it works on a mandated meal break is it is not paid

      BUT you are required by law to not work during same

      another fun factiod if you are required to be there and waiting for work YOU MUST BE PAID so if the power goes out and or the computers crash you must be paid until you are formally told to go home (so if it takes 3 hours for the manager to call a shutdown you get paid for that time)

  9. How DARE they by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 4, Funny

    The nerve of those workers wanting to eat meals!

    What will they demand next, bathroom breaks? Clean air? Properly grounded equipment?

    Please, Mein Fuhrer Trump, put an end to this anti-capitialist craziness!

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  10. Re:Meal breaks by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Which is why employers would have meal breaks for employees even without these rights and the lawyerly looting they enable.

    Employers like Apple?

  11. Re:Meal breaks by uncqual · · Score: 5, Interesting

    California has the largest economy in the US

    As they should, because they have the largest population of any state in the US. About 1 of 8 people in the US live in California.

    A more interesting statistic would be Gross State Product GSP per capita in each state. In 2012, California's GSP ranked 17 among all states and in 2015 it still only ranked 10. In 2015, California's GSP per capita was only about 11% higher than the US GDP per capita.

    Income in California is also very much distributed at the upper end -- from 2012 through 2014, 48% of the state income tax was paid by the top 1% of taxpayers.

    As well, according to the Department of Labor, in November 2016 California had relatively high unemployment compared to other states -- 38 states had lower unemployment rates.

    Overall, California's economy isn't particularly impressive.

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  12. Re: O wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I know. Assuming they made $10/hr, thats a mere 19 days of 30 minute lunch breaks. Unless 19 days was the longest anyone could ever stand to work in one of those stores, thats a ridiculously low compensation

  13. Re:Meal breaks by nnull · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "I do agree that small businesses should be subject to less regulation than the large multinationals though."

    No, they shouldn't. As a small business owner myself, I have no problems with California regulations and I do give my employees lunch and breaks if they want too (Hell, some of them I have work from home now). The fact is, a lot of the big companies will follow most of California regulations to the letter because they don't have time to deal with all the liability if they don't. It's actually the damn small businesses that abuse the hell out of employees and don't follow the rules. As for costs, it's minuscule to follow for me because I actually know how to plan things for the long term and actually have procedures.

    So, a good example of a small business is the building down from me, a paper converter. They don't follow any regulations, hire illegals to run their machines, abuse the hell out of their workers by overworking them over 12 hours a day (How do I know? They all come to my building looking for work telling me about this). So whenever I go to lunch with the owner, he bitches and moans about California laws everyday because he wants to pay his workers even less than minimum wage. Complains he has to pay overtime for his employees because he doesn't want to hire more people to deal with the overflow. Then he bitches and moans to me how he can't find any maintenance guy worth anything because he wants to pay them minimum wage and the guys he interviews laugh at him (Wants an engineer to work minimum wage or close to it). The guy has no permits, but plays the game with the city and OSHA like a flute. That is the small business you are talking about that you want to subject to less regulations. And this is actually very typical of every small business in California. Stop thinking that mom & pop shop is ethical, because this guy is a mom & pop shop, they're actually the worse.

    And this isn't the only guy, I have a logistics company up the street from me doing the same thing, a screen printing business doing the same thing, and a company making spices doing the same thing.

    And somehow I have no problem dealing with the regulations, but everyone else does! In my opinion, small businesses need to be subject to more regulations and scrutiny because they get away with so much, you wouldn't believe. If it was so bad in California, they would have moved out long ago.

  14. Re:Meal breaks by Daemonik · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It doesn't matter what's on the books, does Washington ENFORCE meal breaks? Apparently California didn't, thus this lawsuit and somewhere a middle manager who made a nice bonus for several years for forward thinking.

    It's like, every Wal-Mart employee knows they have paid time off. It's in their paperwork, it's the law in most areas. Yet they also "know" that if they take a minute of it they'll be told their services are no longer needed. They also better show up for those 4 hour "management meetings" off the clock where they do a suspicious amount of shelf stocking.

  15. Re:O wow by matbury · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Apple Wins In Court, Owes Only $2 Million For Not Giving 21,000 Workers Meal Breaks And Other Abusive And Illegal Employment Practices For 5 Years

    There. FTFY

  16. Re:Meal breaks by hey! · · Score: 3, Insightful

    California is so huge you have to look at it piecewise, otherwise you're doing apples-and-oranges comparisons.

    For example the San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland CSA is an economic behemoth that is likely the richest region of that size in the world. Yes, Qatar, Macau, Luxemburg and Lichtenstein would beat it for per capita GDP, but compared to the Bay Area those places have tiny populations.

    Does it make sense to average a place like that with San Joaquin County, which has the highest percentage of people living below the poverty line in California? That's entirely a function of the industry that dominates the county: agriculture. Over 20% of the workers are immigrants, 3/4 of them fairly recent.

    So it's like a card game in which California was dealt 58 very different cards. What you have to do is compare different CSAs to comparable CSAs elsewhere in the county. If you want to start a tech business, you aren't very likely going to start it in Riverside, but that'd be a good place to start a trucking business. The same applies to states; sometime social dysfunction is useful. Arkansas and West Virginia have the lowest educational attainment in the US, which makes them a great place to start a low-wage business. Massachusetts and Maryland have the highest educational attainment in the US, which makes it a great place to start, say, a biotech firm. California has counties that resemble either end of the spectrum.

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  17. Re: O wow by silentcoder · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Swiss tend to be quite impressive. Their FOIA system is just mindblowing. Walk into any government office, fill in a request, and if they don't give you the document you demanded within an hour somebody WILL get fired. No cumbersome multi-month turn-arounds, not court appeals to be allowed to keep it secret.

    Anything less than national security top-secret classification and if they don't give you the paperwork within the hour - they are breaking the law. Now that makes corruption almost non-existent, it makes government oversight easy and immediate and powerful.

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