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Finland Will Give Some Unemployed Citizens a Basic Income (theoutline.com)
Next month, the Finnish government is going to try something completely different to help its unemployed citizens: give them free money. From a report on The Outline: On Jan. 9, 2017, a randomly selected group of 2,000 unemployed citizens in Finland will receive a check for 560 euros (about $585) with no strings attached. They'll continue to receive that check every month for two years straight, even if they find a job or continue to remain unemployed. This is part of an experiment to see what happens to people's participation in the labor market after they've been guaranteed a certain amount of money.
I just want it. Stop dangling the carrot. Its a no brainer, give me $1000 a month or what it ever is, you can be almost certain that $1000 will flow directly back into the economy one way or another. The middle/working class its not like the 1%ers - we're not going to sit on all this money and remove it from the economy.
Rome used to give bread to the mob, because when they didn't, food riots would break out and then you'd see some real violence.
As it is, automation is going to mean a lot of jobs, even low skilled service jobs will disappear over the next half century. So you can buy into your Libertarian-fueled dystopia all you want, but back in the real world, where governments have to deal with real problems, UBI is going to happen, and you can't take your whole "the violence inherent in the system" crap and annoy your relatives with it.
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As soon as you give people more money, the upper classes will obtain it eventually.
Yes they will, right after the poor have been fed, housed, and given a reasonably comfortable life with that money. Sounds like this kind of wealth redistribution is a win win the way you describe it.
-- All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke
Think of it as immunization against hoarding instincts by the mega-rich. They are acting irrationally, hiding so much money that their great-grandchildren probably couldn't even sanely spend it all, in tax havens and such. That hoarding behavior destroys the velocity of money, which stifles the economy as well as causing poverty and crime. Also, as stated by others, UBI is actually really simple in administration.
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Taxation is the only way any civilization can function. Taxation has been a feature of civilization since the beginning of civilization. Some of the earliest examples of proto-writing were basically ledgers used by early civilizations to track taxes.
Get over it. You live in the society, you get to pay a share for that society's function. Your liberty stems from the right to elect representatives to the legislative assemblies that enact taxation legislation. Your liberty does not extend to you not having a moral and lawful duty to pay taxes. Fuck off with your sociopathic selfish "I'm being robbed" crap.
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