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Scientists Blast Antimatter Atoms With a Laser For The First Time (npr.org)

For the first time, researchers from Indiana University were able to blast antimatter atoms with a laser to measure the light emitted from the anti-atoms. The researchers hope to answer one of the big mysteries of our universe: Why, in the early universe, did antimatter lose out to regular old matter? NPR reports: "The first time I heard about antimatter was on Star Trek, when I was a kid," says Jeffrey Hangst, a physicist at Aarhus University in Denmark. "I was intrigued by what it was and then kind of shocked to learn that it was a real thing in physics." He founded a research group called ALPHA at CERN, Europe's premier particle physics laboratory near Geneva, that is devoted to studying antimatter. That's a tricky thing to do because antimatter isn't like the regular matter you see around you every day. At the subatomic level, antimatter is pretty much the complete opposite -- instead of having a negative charge, for example, its electrons have a positive charge. And whenever antimatter comes into contact with regular matter, they both disappear in a flash of light. In the journal Nature, his team reports that they've now used the special laser to probe this antimatter. So far, what they see is that their anti-hydrogen atoms respond to the laser in the same way that regular hydrogen does. That's what the various theories out there would predict -- still, Hangst says, it's important to check. "We're kind of really overjoyed to finally be able to say we have done this," he says. "For us, it's a really big deal." From the journal Nature: "Researchers at CERN, the European particle physics laboratory outside Geneva, trained an ultraviolet laser on antihydrogen, the antimatter counterpart of hydrogen. They measured the frequency of light needed to jolt a positron -- an antielectron -- from its lowest energy level to the next level up, and found no discrepancy with the corresponding energy transition in ordinary hydrogen."

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  1. Well duh. by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Funny

    Researchers ... trained an ultraviolet laser on antihydrogen, ... and found no discrepancy with the corresponding energy transition in ordinary hydrogen.

    Everyone knows you need to use an anti-laser to get the appropriate results.

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    1. Re:Well duh. by BitterOak · · Score: 5, Informative

      I know your comment was meant to be humorous, but it does raise an important point. There really is no such thing as an anti-laser since lasers produce photons, and photons are their own anti-particle. I.e. there's no such thing as an anti-photon, or to be more precise, a photon and anti-photon are the same thing! That's why an ordinary laser can be used in this experiment.

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    2. Re: Well duh. by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Funny

      I can't wait until they publish the anti-paper. It may bomb, though.

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    3. Re:Well duh. by slickwillie · · Score: 5, Funny

      You mean they shoulda used photoffs instead of photons?

    4. Re:Well duh. by bazorg · · Score: 2

      Everyone knows you need to use an anti-laser to get the appropriate results.

      no need. you can just turn the knob to "anti-blast".

    5. Re:Well duh. by jafiwam · · Score: 2

      Will we have to invent an anti-shark, or should we get the anti-Pope to fire it?

      Do not invoke the anti-pope in public.

    6. Re:Well duh. by tendrousbeastie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The reason is that an anti-particle is a particle with opposite charge (both electric and colour) compare to its partner. So an anti-electron has opposite charge to a normal electron, and an anti-quark has opposite colour-charge and electric charge to a normal quark.

      A photon does not have any charge, so an anti-photon would have identical properties to a normal photon - they would be identical, and so it makes no sense to talk about them as being different entities.

    7. Re:Well duh. by BitterOak · · Score: 2

      The reason is that an anti-particle is a particle with opposite charge (both electric and colour) compare to its partner. So an anti-electron has opposite charge to a normal electron, and an anti-quark has opposite colour-charge and electric charge to a normal quark.

      A photon does not have any charge, so an anti-photon would have identical properties to a normal photon - they would be identical, and so it makes no sense to talk about them as being different entities.

      You're exactly right, but there is one other quantum number involved in particle/anti-particle duality, and that is lepton number. That is why neutrinos and anti-neutrinos are distinct particles despite having no electric or color charge: they have opposite lepton number.

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  2. Why lasers? by jmv · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anyone with better physics knowledge can comment here? Why would you use lasers to measure differences between matter and anti-matter? As far as I know, the only difference between the two is supposed to involve the weak force rather than the electromagnetic force (on which light is based). Considering that these guys aren't idiots, I must be missing something. How are the lasers useful?

    1. Re:Why lasers? by mykepredko · · Score: 2

      The big reason I can think of why you would use lasers for this experiment is that you need to know precisely how much energy is being applied to the anti-hydrogen atoms. As lasers produced only one wavelength (energy level) of light, this becomes a non-issue.

      I imagine that the wavelength of laser light is different from the expected wavelength of the released photon from the anti-hydrogen atom, so it can be easily detected and not confused with light from any other source (ie the laser).

      Note that the "laser" being used here is not the same one as you would find in a dollar store laser pointer.

    2. Re:Why lasers? by Dorianny · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The C and P symmetries violations in weak interactions is not enough to explain why there is No detectable antimatter in the Universe. Scientists are performing experiments that they should know the results of in the hopes that it gives unexpected result. Ernest Rutherford's landmark experiment with gold foil and alpha particles is just one of many experiments yielding unexpected results, invalidating the wildly accepted Plumb Pudding theory of the atom and opening the door to Quantum Mechanics. The discovery of the expansion of the universe and later its acceleration were both unexpected results. Sometimes it pay to check if the sky is actually blue (which ironically only appears to humans as blue because of a quirk of our vision system. If human (or to alien) eyes were equally sensitive to all wavelengths the sky might look violet or ultra-violet)

    3. Re:Why lasers? by Harvey+Manfrenjenson · · Score: 2

      (disclaimer: I'm not a physicist.) I think the idea is they get the atom to flouresce? The atom absorbs a photon of light, which if it came from a laser we know the exact wavelength of, then emits a lower-energy photon at a longer wavelength, which we can then measure. The difference in energy gets absorbed by the electron (or positron) as it moves to a higher-energy orbital. (Or do you say anti-orbital?)

      What I wonder about is, if the anti-hydrogen atom reacts exactly the same way as a hydrogen atom... how can they be sure they didn't accidentally hit a stray hydrogen atom, instead of the antihydrogen atom they were aiming for? I understand they are shooting into a vacuum chamber, but even the vacuum of space has hydrogen atoms floating around in it.

    4. Re:Why lasers? by TomGreenhaw · · Score: 2

      Q) Why would you use lasers to measure differences between matter and anti-matter?
      A) Because lasers can be controlled and tuned excite the electrons and positrons to just the right amount of energy for them to jump to their next energy state and when that energy is released can be measured to verify the accuracy of the mathematical model of the atom in question. Since you don't have a lot of anti-matter to play with, one needs a very well controlled light source with a high degree of precision and accuracy.

      Q) As far as I know, the only difference between the two is supposed to involve the weak force rather than the electromagnetic force (on which light is based).
      A) Antimatter exhibits the same properties of all forces the same way as matter. Antimatter particles however have opposite charge and spin in relation to matter. E.g. the electron has an opposite negative charge compared to the positron which is positively charged and the quarks that make up a proton have the opposite spin and charge compared to its antimatter counterpart the anti-proton.

      Bonus) ... the weak force rather than the electromagnetic force (on which light is based)
      A) It has been shown that the weak force which regulates radioactive decay of an atomic nucleus is actually a special case of the electromagnetic force.

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    5. Re:Why lasers? by Harvey+Manfrenjenson · · Score: 2

      Yes, thanks, I understand that their lab is not in outer space. The best man-made vacuums still contain about 1000 atoms per cubic centimeter(*). So my question stands-- how can they be sure their laser didn't hit a stray hydrogen atom?

      (*)Interesting link here on the subject of ultra-high vacuums: http://physics.stackexchange.c...

  3. Not the first attempt. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 5, Funny

    This actually isn't the first time they've run this experiment. The first time was back in 2005 but things didn't go as planned. What happened was really a cautionary tale because one scientist had their cat ("Schrodinger") at the lab and was enjoying the warm anti-matter containment unit. When the scientists began the experiment, the cat spotted the laser and lunged at it, coming into direct contact with the anti-matter. It was a mess and Schrodinger the cat was very very dead while the lab and experiment destroyed. After that, people started saying that you have to harness anti-matter with a cat or as one person put it, "grab them by the pussy." ;)

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    1. Re:Not the first attempt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Schrodinger the cat was very very dead

      Are you sure it was dead?

  4. Oh great, a new SJW movement... by BronsCon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hydrogen Lives Anti-Matter

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  5. I have to ask... by hyades1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    The lasers...is it possible, just barely possible, that they were mounted on the heads of tiny sharks?

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  6. Are you sure? by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    There really is no such thing as an anti-laser

    Sure there is, you just need a coherent beam of Black-Light.

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  7. Test EM Interactions by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually it is a bit more specific than that because we already know that matter and anti-matter behave differently under some circumstances. The effect is called 'CP violation" but it only happens for one of the fundamental forces of nature called the weak force which is the one which causes nuclear beta decay.

    The atomic spectrum of anti-hydrogen is dependent almost entirely on EM interactions and any slight difference will have a measurable effect on the wavelengths emitted. Hence this gives a very good way to do a high precision test of the EM force for anti-matter to see whether it is at all different.

  8. Corrections by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 5, Informative

    The C and P symmetries violations in weak interactions is not enough to explain why there is No detectable antimatter in the Universe.

    Actually it is the combined CP symmetry which is the important one to test. The C and P symmetries individually are already known to be broken in both weak and EM interactions. For example the different electric charge for anti-matter breaks the C symmetry for EM.

    Also the CP violation in the weak force might actually be enough to explain the universe if there is enough of it in the neutrino sector as well and if the neutrino is a majorana particle. These models are called leptogenesis and could explain the observed asymmetry. However that does not mean we should not look for CP violation elsewhere: we know it exists for the weak force, it could easily exist for the strong force but does not seem to (something called the strong CP problem) and so we really should test the EM interactions to see whether there is any effect there which is what this experiment does to a high degree of precision.

  9. I know why matter won by GuB-42 · · Score: 2

    Because if antimatter won it would have been called matter.
    Now where can I get my Nobel prize?