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Electoral College Elects Donald Trump As President (nbcnews.com)
mi writes: The drama is over, Donald J. Trump passed the 270 electoral votes necessary to become President. A few electors dissented, resulting in their prompt dismissal and replacement per their state's laws. Ironically, more dissenters turned on Clinton than on Trump... The sky may not be falling yet, but the Earth is already in peril.
(Disclaimer: I didn't vote for the SOB.)
I note that in all the discussion of how Clinton won the popular vote, in CalExit America, she actually lost by about half a million votes. California's vote was that lopsided.
Trump is ... an embarrassment, at best, but the overheated histrionics of the Left wore very very thin a long time ago.
I've been saying for years: Never give powers to your very favorite president in history that you wouldn't want to see in the hands of the president who horrifies you the most. The current administration has spent 8 years weaponizing the Federal government to go after his opponents. For those who applauded that... we'll see how that works out for you in the next 4-8 years.
Maybe we'll get some actual consensus that federalism and limited powers are a good thing again. If so, a Trump presidency might be just the medicine we need, no matter how bad it tastes.
Fun Fact: The majority of emissions in the US come from states which literally are taking action, no matter what the feds say.
Fun Fact: US solar power (in annual output per device) literally doubled in the last three months.
Fun Fact: All - and I do mean all - fossil fuels are much more expensive than both solar and wind. Today. In the USA.
Fun Fact: plug in electric vehicles - which are mostly used in cities which have green energy, and are frequently charged by solar panels - literally doubled in the US during the last six months. There's a factory in Detroit that churns out 600 of them a day. Range 200 miles on a charge. Costs less than 30k.
It really doesn't matter what you do, we're changing the world already. And we will leave you in the dust with more efficient, CHEAPER, green energy and more efficient factories.
Capitalism doesn't care about your failed ideology or your political persuasions. It literally does. not. care.
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Obama did a few odds/ends executive orders that could have been shut down by Congress if they cared to bother. Mostly he didn't lock up non-violent drug offenders and he didn't go out of his way to deport illegal immigrants who were holding down jobs (though his admin still did a fuck load of deporting). The right didn't care that much about #1 and actively support #2 so long as they don't have to admit it to their base (they can't get enough of that sweet, sweet cheap labor).
We don't need federalism. The federal gov't were the ones that put a stop to the farce that was "Separate but Equal". They broke up the Trusts. They enabled the Unions that created the middle class. They bring in real and effective disaster relief and keep our shipping ports open. The State governments have proven themselves powerless to stand against even the smallest tyrannies time and time again. Look at Flint, Mi's Water supply (that Gov Snyder is still fighter the cleanup of) and the complete breakdown in Democracy it represented.
What's the phrase about small gov'ts? Small enough to drown in a bathtub? That's your democracy. Small enough to drown in a bathtub...
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Definitely, this. If he doesn't distance himself completely from his business interests or from Putin, he will find himself in a more impeachable position than any other president in history. But in his arrogance, he believes himself above such things, and is taking things in the opposite direction by only giving lip service to avoiding conflicts of interest, and by stacking his administration with a very pro-Russia cabinet while ignoring all of the intelligence pointing towards Russia's meddling in the election. The only question is whether the Democrats will have enough of a spine to actually bring impeachment charges, or if they will just give lots of angry speeches. Drama, at any rate.
The white supremacists are just a side show. I don't believe Trump himself is a racist in the same way that many of his supporters are. To him, everything is just business (which poses its own problems, see the conflict of interest issue above), and the white supremacists' support was convenient to that end. But if they continue to be a factor, that will provide plenty of drama of its own.
Somehow, viable Democrats (Bernie is really an Independent) seem to have stayed out of the primary this year. Its really strange, there was no Democratic incumbent running for re-election. There should have been a wide selection of viable candidates like in 2008, as happens all the time in non-incumbent years. But somehow, no big names but Hillary showed up. Yes there was the token opponent who mostly agreed with Hillary and said she would be a good President; and there was the Independent Bernie who re-registered to run as a Democrat. How was there not a contested field like in 2008?
Interestingly, the Wikileaks dump had this snippet about Joe Biden:
Ron Klain, a Democrat stalwart who served as chief of staff to Biden and Vice President Al Gore, sent an email to Podesta suggesting the Clinton campaign wasn’t sitting idly by while Biden was agonizing as to whether or not to stage a campaign for president, just months after the tragic death of his son Beau.
“It’s been a little hard for me to play such a role in the Biden demise – and I am definitely dead to them — but I’m glad to be on Team HRC, and glad that she had a great debate last night,” he wrote to Podesta and Clinton Communications Director Jennifer Palmieri.
I make no judgement about this - it's how politics is done - but note that Joe Biden would probably have been a stronger opponent than HRC was.
Except that Drano is often a bad choice to fix a blockage, as it can damage pipes and won't clear some kinds of debris. It's the proper tool for someone too lazy to use proper tools or too cheap to call a professional.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2009/12/24/garden/24fix.html as one example.
It's even "terrible for the environment." Hey, look at that, so is Trump.
Thanks for the oddly-appropriate metaphor.
Can you imagine the outcry if China had hacked the RNC and tipped the election so that HCR won?
You mean after the sitting Republican president had already claimed there was no evidence of any such influence?
But yes, I can imagine the outcry. It would be a larger version of the rioting and looting and burnings and shootings every time the Daley machine rigged the elections in Chicago. Oh, wait, the Republicans didn't riot or loot when that happened ...
I think they call your "argument" projection. You know what you'd do, and you assume that others would do the same thing. Or you just want to insult others and spread fear.
I can't believe I'm about to defend this ridiculous place...
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I was born and raised in the San Joaquin Valley, and what you say doesn't even begin to resemble my experience. While it's certainly true that I've known a handful of racist white people, they've been an oddity in my life. As for segregated neighborhoods, I'm a white guy surrounded by Mexicans. I've also had Black neighbors in this same neighborhood, in years past, so I'm really not seeing where you're coming from, there. Furthermore, I've never seen anyone turned away from a bar, due to their race (granted, I don't spend a lot of time in bars).
As for the Bi-Lingual Education thing, that came about because Spanish-speaking students had a lower collective GPA than English-speaking students. The thought was that the students were failing because they couldn't understand the language in which the lessons were being taught. So, they teach the primary curriculum to them in Spanish, and then they're supposed to also teach them English as a Second Language. I went through the local public school system, and I haven't met any Mexicans who both grew up here and don't know English. Generally the Mexicans I know who don't speak English very well, are immigrants, and especially immigrants who came over here later in life. I've had friends whose elderly grandparents didn't learn English at all, but if you're 75 and immigrating just to be with your kids and grandkids, then I think that you can be forgiven for not learning the language, and I don't think I'd expect you to, let alone require it.
Don't get me wrong. We've got an abundance of hateful, intolerant people in this state, but they're usually not racists, unless they're racist toward white people, but even that isn't terribly common around here. There's a lot of man-haters, rich-people-haters and Trump-haters (can't swing a cat without hitting one), but people hating on Mexicans, Black people or Asians are strange and unusual. If you told me that this was the most hateful state in the union, I'm not sure that I could disagree so easily, but to describe California as racist just doesn't mix with what I see around me.
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