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Russians Used Malware On Android Devices To Track and Target Ukraine Artillery, Says Report (reuters.com)

schwit1 quotes a report from Reuters: A hacking group linked to the Russian government and high-profile cyber attacks against Democrats during the U.S. presidential election likely used a malware implant on Android devices to track and target Ukrainian artillery units from late 2014 through 2016, according to a new report released Thursday. The malware was able to retrieve communications and some locational data from infected devices, intelligence that would have likely been used to strike against the artillery in support of pro-Russian separatists fighting in eastern Ukraine, the report from cyber security firm CrowdStrike found. The hacking group, known commonly as Fancy Bear or APT 28, is believed by U.S. intelligence officials to work primarily on behalf of the GRU, Russia's military intelligence agency. The implant leveraged a legitimate Android application developed by a Ukrainian artillery officer to process targeting data more quickly, CrowdStrike said. Its deployment "extends Russian cyber capabilities to the front lines of the battlefield," the report said, and "could have facilitated anticipatory awareness of Ukrainian artillery force troop movement, thus providing Russian forces with useful strategic planning information."

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  1. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Damn Hillary was in charge of 9 different government agencies? Wait no you are spreading fake news.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/10/26/the-facts-behind-trumps-repeated-claim-about-hillary-clintons-role-in-the-russian-uranium-deal/
    http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2016/sep/30/donald-trump/nuclear-claim-donald-trump-says-hillary-clinton-ga/

    The State Department was one of nine agencies comprising CFIUS, which vets potential national security impacts of transactions where a foreign government gains control of a U.S. company. It was established by Congress in 2007 after the controversy over the planned purchase of seaports by a company in United Arab Emirates. The other agencies were the departments of Treasury, Defense, Justice, Commerce, Energy and Homeland Security, and two White House agencies (Office of the U.S. Trade Representative and Office of Science and Technology Policy).

  2. Stupidy of using consumer software and hardware. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I hope that the US is not stupid enough to use consumer vetted software and hardware for mission critical applications. You would think that the military in the Ukraine would be a little more savvy and lock stuff down but I guess it just goes to show how ridiculous using systems that are not meant to be secure really is. Then again one could create all sorts of easy hack honey pot decoy devices and use them to spread disinformation just as easily. So Microsoft has its place in the armed forces I guess.

  3. Man! It just doesn't stop! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    A hacking group linked to the Russian government and high-profile cyber attacks against Democrats during the U.S. presidential election

    The only thing that's high are the idiots who keep pushing this bullshit. The democrats lost because they suck. Get over it! Let's hope they lose even more in '18. Fuck them, and you morons who keep printing this crybaby stuff. Suck it up, bitches!

    1. Re: Man! It just doesn't stop! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Fucking poorly educated, why do they even get a vote?
      Wait, are we talking about poorly educated minorities (a tragedy) or poorly educated white people (stupid racists who deserve it)?

  4. Huh? by smooth+wombat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If Russia isn't invading and attacking Ukraine, as Putin has been saying for over two years now, why would Russian artillery be targeting Ukrainian artillery in Ukraine?

    I guess when you've lost over 2,000 soldiers during your invasion, and the weekly shipments of cargo 200 keep crossing into your country, it becomes time to drop the facade of the charade and just admit the truth you've been denying.

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    1. Re:Huh? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't call the economic sanctions a total free pass.

      There's very little else to do though, apart from more sanctions and more bombs. What they should do really would be to hack russian newspapers, obviously.

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    2. Re:Huh? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Playing devil's advocate, I guess they would be defending Crimea and other Russia territory from attacks over the border.

      Putin has had an incredible couple of years. Got Crimea back, got involved in Syria and seems to have resolved it to a greater extent than the west was able to (even if he is doing it with Assad), and installed his choice of leader in the White House. That least one is going to really pay off in the coming years. Trump's administration will reduce US involvement overseas, while removing sanctions and doing deals to boost the Russian economy.

      Putin saw a great opportunity and took full advantage of it, risking a great deal and ultimately having it pay off handsomely. Seems like everyone was too worried about China and underestimated Russia.

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  5. Re:I don't worry about the Russians. by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2

    >> I still have no idea what you're trying to say

    The Democrats didn't worry about the Russians until...they needed a distraction in the 2016 election. And for some reason, they're still whining about them instead of cleaning up their own party.

    Alternatively, Democrats should perhaps learn the most important lesson of ethics and morality: if you don't want the world to know about your shady shit...don't do shady shit. :)

  6. Next: There Was No Tea Tax! by Mikkeles · · Score: 3, Funny

    In 1773, the Russians hacked the mail ships and inserted the message that there was to be a Tea Tax.

    The American revolution was an error!

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  7. Re:Why? by quantaman · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why would the Russians, who are close allies with Hillary since she sold them a chunk (20%) of the US uranium deposits for a simple donation to the Clinton Foundation

    The State Dept. was one of nine agencies who reviewed the deal. And Clinton wasn't even the State Department person who sat on the committee who reviewed it.

    And the biggest donor didn't even have a financial stake in the company in question at the time he donated to the Clinton Foundation.

    and the fake news sites (CNN, etc) are so relentless on spreading this rumor without any evidence.

    Yes imagine, someone spreading rumours of corruption without evidence.

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  8. Just wait for the next whiz kid by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 1

    to pump out a totally cloud-based artillery targeting app for your smartwatch that sends your exact coordinates in a GET request to jquery.com.

    Yeesh.

    When I was in the NSA museum, they had a little placard in their Enigma exhibit that said that the US and British kept the details of Turing's work classified well into the 60's because a lot of countries were still using Enigma. For some reason I thought of that now.

  9. Don't do this cool thing by bosef1 · · Score: 1

    This is why the bring-your-own commercial device idea doesn't work for many Defense and Government activities. I realize it sounds really cool to be able to direct artillery fire with your smartphone. But think about all the buggy applications you have on your smartphone... do you really want to be sending fires data with something that's just going to crash or hang because Candy Crush installed wrong?

    Some other posters seem to be trying to connect this to Hillary Clinton's recent campaign. Really, the easy link it to compare it with Hillary's private e-mail server. Aside from the whole "don't circumvent the FOIA" thing, this is another why we don't want you doing public business on private servers. Government data is going to be attacked by government operators, if only to see what they can get away with. So it needs to be known so we can give it the government-level defense that it needs.

  10. Russia really puts the mal in malware by fishfrys · · Score: 1

    The artillery wasn't even the worst of it. The malware actually sent all searches to Yahoo.

  11. We're all gonna die by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    Today, President Elect Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin both announced that they plan to expand their nuclear arsenals. Of course, Trump made his announcement on Twitter.

    Duck and cover, motherfuckers.

    https://youtu.be/snTaSJk0n_Y

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    1. Re:We're all gonna die by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1

      Don't be silly. The newlyweds are simply combining their assets, so each will have access to more than they did when they were single.

    2. Re:We're all gonna die by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Rather Twitter than CNN or any of the other news propaganda media. The news media does not like Twitter any more unless they are using it for their news stories. Donald Trump, was elected by the people and is telling the people directly what he plans on doing. News media does not like it good!

      Do you hear how moronic you sound? I've been meaning to ask one of you big Trump guys whether you have any inkling of the rank stupidity that you display every time you say something.

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    3. Re:We're all gonna die by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Don't be silly. The newlyweds are simply combining their assets, so each will have access to more than they did when they were single.

      Well, we know for sure which one is the top and which one is the bottom in that relationship.

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    4. Re:We're all gonna die by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      Yeah you're the smartest guy in the room aren't you.

      When you and I are the only ones in the room, yes.

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  12. Re:Why? by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 4, Funny

    And imagine someone downvoting your informative post. No, wait -- no imagination is necessary, some crank already did exactly that.

  13. Phones by tsotha · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why would anyone allow soldiers in his command to use cell phones in an active war zone? That seems daft.

    1. Re:Phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      The Ukrainian army was systematically undermined (i.e. weapons, planes, navy ships, communications hardware was sold off) during previous administrations, which had all been corrupt to varying degrees. The Yanukovych administration (whose shocking corruption and increasingly authoritarian tendencies would cause a popular revolution) in particular, was systematically disassembling Ukraine's army, probably under Russian guidance. When Russia invaded Crimea, Ukraine was essentially unable to front any sort of response. By the time Russia invaded Donbas, Ukraine's civil society had gotten a makeshift army together, which consisted partly of volunteers (the volunteer units would eventually be integrated into the official army). To compensate for shortfalls in funding and equipment, army staff and engineers had to use ingenuity, which often resulted in less than ideal solutions, especially when considering that they were up against the Russian army, which has some of the best artillery and communications equipment in the world. Basically, the choice was often to use a suboptimal solution, or to use nothing at all, so they used the suboptimal solution - this included using mobile phones for communications, as well as other purposes.

    2. Re:Phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I didn't quite make out what you said. Could you please take Putin's dick out of your mouth and repeat that?

    3. Re:Phones by gtall · · Score: 1

      I suppose if you are comparing them to rich Western armies, then yes it is daft. The Ukrainian army is not one of those. I've been there, it is a very poor country. The Soviet system was not kind to it.

  14. Re:Why? by skids · · Score: 5, Funny

    We have to call it what it is: "Russian Cyber Espionage". This is "Russian cyber espionage" and Trump won't even mention the word, and nor will Rex Tillerson. He won't use the term ‘Russian cyber espionage,’ Now, to solve a problem, you have to be able to state what the problem is or at least say the name. Trump won't say the name and Tillerson won't say the name. But the name is there. It's "Russian cyber espionage."

  15. Civilians by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    At least that trick is not going to inflict damages on civilians, and it may even reduce them.

    1. Re:Civilians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      It's not clear that Russia has any intention to minimize civilian casualties. For one thing, their proxy forces (the DNR and LNR) get paid to fire off a certain amount of salvos, and when they shoot these artillery shells, they often fire pretty indiscriminately. This guy is located in Lugansk, and his Twitter timeline is dedicated to keeping track of the artillery shelling, in case anyone's curious about it. Second, Russia controls all of the media in the occupied territories, and their MO has been to get one of their GRU/FSB-connected "journalists" into an area (there are certain channels, such as LIfeNews, which are particularly linked to Russian security services), have the Russian journalist direct artillery or tank fire into a civilian target, and then present the footage under the guise of "the junta" shelling Donbas civilians - this is intended to foment a local uprising against Ukraine, but it only works on the most gullible individuals, and according to Russian pollsters, most people in Donbas still support Ukraine.

      Possibly two most famous incidents of Russia shelling civilians in Donbas were the Volnovakha bus station bombing (it was an MH17-like situation, where the Russians thought they hit a Ukrainian military target, took credit for it, realized they hit a civilian target, and started fabricating stories that Ukraine did it) and the Mariupol bombing, in which Russia killed at least 29 people, and injured at lest 97. Another famous one was a Donetsk city mortar shelling, which, of course, the Russians tried to pin on Ukraine, until everyone realized that the shelling was done by mortar, the mortar used has a range of a few km, at most, and the nearest Ukrainian position is 20km away; at that point, the Russian terrorists shut up about it. In summary - the only sure way to limit civilian casualties, is to get the Russian invading force off of Ukrainian territory.

    2. Re:Civilians by qaz123 · · Score: 1

      You are such an obvious Ukrainian doing his job. Ukrainian forces are not 20km from Donetsk. They are on its very edge. And don't tell me Ukrainians use only AK-rifles. They use artillery as well mortars. During the war they were shelling separatists who were in the cities among civilians. You are constantly calling separatists "Russians". They are not Russians, they are Ukrainian citizens.
      " until everyone realized". This is a good example of Argumentum ad populum or "appeal to the majority" - a fallacious argument

    3. Re:Civilians by superwiz · · Score: 2

      You are such an obvious Ukrainian doing his job.

      I am sorry, but Russian Federation (not to be confused with "Russia") has lost all credibility after its invasion of Crimea. First, it was occupied by "volunteers" (Putin's own words). And then a "referendum" was held. So the world was asked to believe that a well-organized army units capable of providing logistics and having a well-organized chain of command was able to pull off a "fair election" (print ballots, inform the populus about pros and cons of voting for either side of the vote, verify that each voter was a legal resident registered to vote at the polling place where he voted) within a few weeks. And only then the "official" RF forces marched in and took over? It took RF 10 years to fight the rebels in Chechnya, but rag-tag volunteers organized an election, formed a legal structure to petition RF to take over, and kept the island from erupting in mayhem in 2-3 weeks? Right. We believe in "Ukrainian civil war" about as much as we believe in those "volunteers".

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  16. Re:Why? by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    Yes it does.

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  17. To quote a famous YouTube'r by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Evidence or STFU and GTFO.

    "A hacking group linked to the Russian government and high-profile cyber attacks against Democrats during the U.S. presidential election likely used a malware implant on Android devices to track and target Ukrainian artillery units..."

    If you RTFA, it is full of "linked to"s, "likely"'s, "support"s, "believed to be"s, etc.

    Put up or shut up -- provide evidence or forever hold your peace.

    1. Re:To quote a famous YouTube'r by gtall · · Score: 1

      Yep, the U.S. should air out all of its secret spy sources and abilities so people like you can get on Slashdot and be satisfied. But you wouldn't believe them even then, would you?

  18. Re:Why? by gtall · · Score: 2

    In fairness, Trump hasn't learned what the term "cyber" means. I hardly think you can then fault him for failing to use it in phrase.

  19. Parent is a troll by waspleg · · Score: 1, Informative

    and a fucking pathetic one at that. It's even more fucking pathetic that this got modded insightful and shows how fucking bad /. has gotten.

    Maybe read some news sometimes. Both the FBI and CIA say it was fucking Russians. What do they have to gain by saying that but animosity from the president-elect? FFS.

  20. He just can't stop lying by vityok · · Score: 1

    Despite all the bravado the idea of a war in Ukraine for whatever reason seems to be unpopular in Russia and around the World.

    Maintaining pretense of non-involvement is good for his domestic agenda and for the agitprop abroad, offering an exit road and to dupe the gullible westerners into lifting sanctions (imposed by the evil Obama and Merkel) and avoid responsibility.

    So, despite everything, he will just keep on lying, about his war in Ukraine, about sectarian-ethnic cleansing facilitated by Russian military in Syria, and about pretty much everything else.

  21. Re:Why? by superwiz · · Score: 1

    It doesn't matter how many agencies or individuals were vetting that decision. What matters is which agency was the principal one in giving the decision the legal go-ahead. State department makes those decisions about exporting arms to foreign nations. Other agencies could have been consulted, but the State Department had to make the call. So it's still on Hillary.

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  22. Re:Why? by abies · · Score: 2

    Radical Islam have been around for so long that the pattern is very clear. They grow and implode on themselves, over and over again.

    Well. Last time it took 1200 years, with good part of Europe ending up in quite bad shape.

    Take a look here (ignore what guy is saying, he might be biased, focus on the map, which is based on facts)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    I think that better statement is that Islam was continously expanding in aggresive manner since its founding, but got a hicckup in last 200 years, where it has stopped, lost most of its power and had to regrow. I'm not really looking forward for another 1200 years of fighting...

  23. WaPo = no credibility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The same WaPo that sent their articles to Hillary's campaign before printing them, just in case they were saying something Hillary might not want said?

    How does that add credibility? Oh, you probably didn't know about that because CNN told you reading WikiLeaks was illegal for US citizens and that they would report what you should know about them and they failed to report that bit. Of course that is the same CNN that was feeding Hillary debate questions before the debates as well.

    I don't think you realize how badly Hillary and the DNC destroyed mainstream news media.

  24. Re:Why? by Nehmo · · Score: 1
    I suspect Russia, or more accurately, the Russian companies involved, simply had to deal with the Clintons for the Uranium One purchase. The buyers needed approval from the State Dept., and Hillary had veto power. So Russia donated to the foundation and paid Bill for a speech. Russia probably didn't want to pay the bribes; the bribes simply were a necessary element of the deal.

    Also, although some news stories are casting the Uranium One deal as a national security issue, it really isn't. The Canadian assets were the meat of the deal, and the part ownership in a US uranium processing facility and some mining claims don't amount to much.

    Regarding the DNC email release, which Assange states should not be called a "hack" because that is not necessarily the way the leaking party obtained the emails, it doesn't matter who provided them. Who wrote them and their content are what is important,

    I, personally, believe Seth Rich was the leaker. https://heatst.com/tech/wikile...

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