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Uber Pulls Self-Driving Cars From San Francisco, Sends Them To Arizona (sfgate.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from SFGate: Uber is moving its self-driving pilot to Arizona, one day after the California Department of Motor Vehicles ordered the autonomous vehicles off the roads in San Francisco. "Our cars departed for Arizona this morning by truck," an Uber spokeswoman said Thursday afternoon in a statement. "We'll be expanding our self-driving pilot there in the next few weeks, and we're excited to have the support of Governor Ducey." After starting its San Francisco pilot on Dec. 14, the ride-hailing company angered the mayor and officials at the DMV by refusing to get a permit to operate its self-driving cars. And so, around noon on Thursday, a fleet of Uber self-driving cars passed through the South of Market area on the backs of several flat-bed trucks. Commuters gawked at the fleet with their distinctive hoods, backing up traffic as the convoy slowly drove by. In a statement Thursday, Arizona Governor Doug Ducey called California's regulations "burdensome" and said Arizona welcomes Uber's self-driving car pilot with "open arms." "While California puts the brakes on innovation and change with more bureaucracy and more regulation, Arizona is paving the way for new technology and new businesses," he said. It is unclear which city -- or cities -- the cars are headed to.

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  1. What Could Go Wrong by notsteve · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unregulated self-driving cars. What could go wrong?

    1. Re:What Could Go Wrong by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Unregulated self-driving cars. What could go wrong?

      We should focus less on what "could" go wrong with SDCs, and focus more on what actually goes wrong with HDCs everyday: About 80 deaths per day in America alone, thousands of injuries, and more than $2 billion per day (over $800B annually) in medical costs, legal costs, and property damage. Almost all of these accidents are a result of human error.

    2. Re: What Could Go Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Because Trump won the election bigots think that America is "theirs" again and they are entitled to brutalize everyone who isn't a "real American" into submission.

    3. Re: What Could Go Wrong by sg_oneill · · Score: 1, Insightful

      A country must have an enemy without or an enemy within, or it cant be governed absolutely. You cant rally the people unless theres a folk devil to throw stones at.

      Thats pretty much the pathology of power right there, and its the little people who pay, be they brown dudes in the middle east, or brown dudes at home.

      --
      Excuse the Unicode crap in my posts. That's an apostrophe, and slashdot is busted.
  2. said vs meant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "While California puts the brakes on innovation and change with more bureaucracy and more regulation, Arizona is paving the way for new technology and new businesses," he said"

    What he meant was that a campaign contribution was made by relevant lobbyists.

  3. I prefer regulations that promote safe operation by raymorris · · Score: 1, Insightful

    If the goal of the regulation was to chase away people who are doing cool stuff, this regulation worked.

    I prefer regulations that promote doing things with an appropriate level of safety. By that standard, this regulation failed - they aren't doing it California at all now.

    That's why I prefer dealing with regulatory agencies with relatively few people they regulate, such as the local ATF and FAA offices. (Versus the DMV). They tend to engage licensees to find ways to do things safely, rather than declaring you can't do it at all unless you do it exactly *this* way, a way that doesn't work.

    The vehicle title office, which has a thousand times as many "customers", is particularly difficult to deal with if anything about your situation doesn't exactly fit the typical case they designed the forms for.

  4. Re:I prefer regulations that promote safe operatio by hawguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the goal of the regulation was to chase away people who are doing cool stuff, this regulation worked.

    Public streets aren't meant for "cool stuff", do that on an off-road track. If you want to do cool stuff on the streets, then expect some oversight -- a $150 permit and reporting requirements sounds like pretty light regulation for something that's being tested alongside the general public.

    I prefer regulations that promote doing things with an appropriate level of safety. By that standard, this regulation failed - they aren't doing it California at all now. That's why I prefer dealing with regulatory agencies with relatively few people they regulate, such as the local ATF and FAA offices. (Versus the DMV). They tend to engage licensees to find ways to do things safely, rather than declaring you can't do it at all unless you do it exactly *this* way, a way that doesn't work

    The FAA has a $15B budget, and has over 7000 people working in their aviation safety division alone -- they issue on average 5 - 10 Airworthiness Directives per day. Are you sure that's a good example of a hands-off, low oversight agency? Try to get a GPS certified for use in the air, and try the same thing for a car, and tell me which agency was easier to deal with (hint, the California DMV doesn't care as long as you don't hang it on the windshield).

  5. lol TOO perfect. That's for blind piloting by GPS by raymorris · · Score: 1, Insightful

    > California DMV doesn't care as long as you don't hang it on the windshield

    I can use a Tomtom, or any other GPS, on my plane, AND I can stick it on my windshield.

    > Try to get a GPS certified for use in the air

    The certification you're probably thinking of is IFR certification - flying when you can't see, relying only on the instruments. Which is actually a lot like an autonomous car relies on it's instruments. Which one is easier to do legally? Hint - instrument rating in the US requires 105 hours.

    > Are you sure that's a good example of a hands-off, low oversight agency?

    Reading comprehension problem? Let me say the words again real slow for you:

    engage licensees to find ways to do things safely