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NVIDIA Quadro P6000 and P5000 Pascal Pro Graphics Powerhouses Put To the Test (hothardware.com)

Reader MojoKid writes: NVIDIA's Pascal architecture has been wildly successful in the consumer space. The various GPUs that power the GeForce GTX 10 series are all highly competitive at their respective price points, and the higher-end variants are currently unmatched by any single competing GPU. NVIDIA has since retooled Pascal for the professional workstation market as well, with products that make even the GeForce GTX 1080 and TITAN X look quaint in comparison. NVIDIA's beastly Quadro P6000 and Quadro P5000 are Pascal powered behemoths, packing up to 24GB of GDDR5X memory and GPUs that are more capable than their consumer-targeted counterparts. Though it is built around the same GP102 GPU, the Quadro P6000 is particularly interesting, because it is outfitted with a fully-functional Pascal GPU with all of its SMs enabled, which results in 3,840 active cores, versus 3,584 on the TITAN X. The P5000 has the same GP104 GPU as the GTX 1080, but packs in twice the amount of memory -- 8GB vs 16GB. In the benchmarks, with cryptographic workloads and pro-workstation targeted graphics tests, the Quadro P6000 and Quadro P5000 are dominant across the board. The P6000 significantly outpaced the previous-generation Maxwell-based Quadro M6000 throughout testing, and the P5000 managed to outpace the M6000 on a few occasions as well. Of particular note is that the Quadro P6000 and P5000, while offering better performance than NVIDIA's previous-gen, high-end professional graphics cards, do it in much lower power envelopes, and they're quieter too. In a couple of quick gaming benchmarks, the P6000 may give us a hint at what NVIDIA has in store for the rumored GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, with all CUDA cores enabled in its GP102 GPU and performance over 10% faster than a Titan X.

21 comments

  1. But Pascal sucks for graphics! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NVIDIA has since retooled Pascal for the professional workstation market as well

    Do we still have to do stuff like this?

    setcolor(10);
    line(0,0,639,479);
    line(639,0,0,479);

  2. Budget Pascal cards? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where are the budget Pascal cards, nVidia?

    1. Re:Budget Pascal cards? by ckatko · · Score: 1

      Hurr Durr

      The 1060 and 1050 are the budget cards. The lowest 1050's with 2 GB are a mere $115. You want more speed and RAM? Pay more.

    2. Re:Budget Pascal cards? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrongs wrong with those two cards for gaming on a single 1080 monitor?? They may be budget, but they should be able to play the latest titles with respectful performance.

    3. Re:Budget Pascal cards? by chefren · · Score: 1

      The 1050 and 1060 don't support SLI, so the only option is multi-gpu support through DirectX 12. For DirectX 11, there is no support. http://www.gamersnexus.net/gui...

  3. Guns, Germs, and Steel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Reminds me of a made up quote from Good Will Hunting:
    "Wood drastically underestimates the impact of social distinctions predicated upon wealth, especially inherited wealth"

    SJW's are so caught up in the disadvantages of unequal access to capital. What about unequal access to TFLOPS?

    I spent all morning trying to identify a global optimization alternative to backpropagation. Instead, I found the optimization "No Free Lunch Theorem", with the implication that better alternatives are unlikely to exist. Just shitty alternatives that take forever.

    So it's just ReLU's, A3C, backpropagation, and "Who has the biggest GPU cluster?" on the horizon?

    My conclusion: the biggest existential threat posed by AI is its ability to further entrench the caste system and exacerbate wealth inequality.

    1. Re:Guns, Germs, and Steel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is this modded -1? This is no different than bitcoin mining. The people who have the best access to the means of production are afforded an unequal opportunity to succeed. When the means of production are almost directly coupled to access to credit, and access to credit is allocated primarily based upon prior-wealth: where is the social mobility?

      Tomorrow's hot startup will be based on success in a brute-force exhaustive search of hyperparameter spaces. A search that can only be won through sheer luck, or superior access to FLOPS. Access to FLOPS is a function of available capital or admission to a prestigious university that has these resources available at artificially low prices.

      This brings us full-circle to elite academic opportunities being the exclusive right of those who can afford to bankroll their education without the distraction of part-time employment. Any attempt to mitigate this simply has the unintended consequence of local price inflation consuming any subsidy provided. To add insult to injury, test scores are graded on a curve, and test scores are directly correlated to available study time, good nutrition, and access to health care. This provides unique access to graduate degree programs to those who have superior financial resources and ensures that the impacts of degree inflation are felt worst by those who cannot afford to withdraw themselves from the workforce for 5-8 years.

    2. Re:Guns, Germs, and Steel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes, and I personally don't want to live in a world where I can't help my children secure an unfair competitive advantage by investing in their education.

  4. "over 10% faster" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now THAT surely helps to transition from single full-HD to multiple 4k screens.

  5. Horizontal Tearing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great cards otherwise, but have they fixed the horizontal tearing issues yet of the 900 series when they're used in Linux?

    I've tried every fix I can find online and still can't stop that. My earlier 700 series card never had these issues.

    1. Re:Horizontal Tearing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it only affects one OS, that seems like a driver issue, not a hardware issue.
      This article isn't about a driver update.

    2. Re:Horizontal Tearing? by Dorianny · · Score: 3, Informative

      Great cards otherwise, but have they fixed the horizontal tearing issues yet of the 900 series when they're used in Linux?

      I've tried every fix I can find online and still can't stop that. My earlier 700 series card never had these issues.

      Tearing in Linux GUI is mostly due to the antiquated X11. Switching to Wayland pretty much resolves this issue. Unfortunately the nVidia proprietary driver does not support Wayland. The open source Nouveau drivers do, but those drivers can be a noticeable step down depending on your system and what you're trying to do (gaming is a no go). Fedora 25 comes with Wayland as default if you would like to take it for a spin

    3. Re:Horizontal Tearing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Add { ForceCompositionPipeline = On } to your metamodes option in your xorg.conf

    4. Re:Horizontal Tearing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope Ubuntu 18.04 will support Wayland. If it doesn't I'll have to wait for Ubuntu 20.04 and it that doesn't, Ubuntu 22.04.
      If so, then fuck it. I'll kill myself by drinking to death like Amy Winehouse did before Wayland goes mainstream.

    5. Re:Horizontal Tearing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Disable showing a window when you move it?

    6. Re:Horizontal Tearing? by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      That absolutely kills performance though..

    7. Re:Horizontal Tearing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks Dorianny for your reply.

      I'll give Fedora a shot.

    8. Re:Horizontal Tearing? by CeasedCaring · · Score: 1

      Canonical are not using Wayland at all. They're working on their own product called Mir.

  6. I'm awaiting the ASCII version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for supreme Nethack scores, because these 3600+ core GPU adaptors buckle under rendering physics since they were manufactured with only 32GB RAM. Just pathetic, and someone will run a Quak 3 test to prove my points.

    Also am waiting for integrated USB mass Storage so my graphics adaptor just boots Linux and plays games ala 386 DOS days so wecan avoid the Intel FIC semiconductor tax. Reborn SGI hardware is beautiful!

  7. Quadro is just bad for Nvidia Customers by BrendaEM · · Score: 1

    Take a gaming chip, hook it to ECC memory, make the drivers draw 2D lines, and double or tipple the price...oh and make sure the cooling solution is pathetic so the card throttle after a minute. Just slap that "Workstation" sticker on the box.

    --
    https://www.youtube.com/c/BrendaEM
    1. Re:Quadro is just bad for Nvidia Customers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slap an SDI card on top of it and you can charge over 15 000 EURs (taxes included) per card.