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Apple's Beef With Nokia Gets Intense, All Withings Products Pulled From Online Store (recode.net)

In less than a week after Nokia sued Apple for patent infringement in courts around the world, saying that Apple has refused to license its patents, Apple has pulled all Withings products from its stores. Earlier this year, Nokia bought Withings, which makes Wi-Fi scales and other digital health and fitness gear.

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  1. Can't you see? by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Can't you see how courageous Apple is to do this? *cough*

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  2. Abuse of position by Richard_at_work · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And if this isn't abuse of Apples position, demonstrating exactly why Apples walled garden should be illegal, what is?

    And no, I don't care that Apple doesnt have "a monopoly", this is anti-competitive and Apple shouldn't be allowed to do it

    1. Re:Abuse of position by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      apple owned apple store is completely and totally operated under anti-trust laws.

      The question is, should companies selling apps be at the whims and mercy of one or two companies (like Apple and Google)? It is abuse of position because only two companies control access of apps to mobile platforms. It would be great if multiple retailers had something similar to App store and Google Play and were allowed to sell apps to the consumer.

    2. Re:Abuse of position by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Since when is a store a walled garden? If Amazon or Walmart stopped selling Withings products would you be complaining?

      Only the physical products are no longer available through the Apple Store and their physical locations. You can still get the applications in the App Store which you normally associate with the walled garden.

      I don't agree with Apple's business practice but please try to get your facts right.

  3. Re:Long ago in a galaxy far far away: Patent Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lawyers.

  4. Re:Apple removes by MichaelJ · · Score: 2

    I have a Withings scale and use the Withings Health Mate iOS app to control it. I just checked and Health Mate is still available in the iOS App Store. They may have pulled the scale or other "physical" products out of the Apple Store (online and/or brick and mortar) but do not appear to have done anything with the iOS App Store.

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  5. Re:Long ago in a galaxy far far away: Patent Wars by Solandri · · Score: 2

    Last time Samsung won, but Apple got bailed out by Obama. Which has the unfortunate side-effect of encouraging companies to play chicken in the game of MAD because they might get a last-minute reprieve even after they've lost.

  6. Re:Intense? by lucm · · Score: 2

    Are you trying to be smug by association?

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  7. Re:Tim Cook = the antithesis of a leader. by lucm · · Score: 2

    Nobody can save Apple. They have 16,000 software engineers and they keep releasing the same 3-4 buggy products with little or no innovation. What are all those people doing all day? Moving buttons around in iTunes? It's like a DMV of epic proportions. Entitlement, bureaucracy and total lack of accountability.

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  8. Re:Long ago in a galaxy far far away: Patent Wars by Holi · · Score: 2

    Your R&D claims do not match reality.
    The top 20 in R&D Spending for 2016:
    1 Volkswagen
    2 Samsung
    3 Amazon
    4 Alphabet
    5 Intel Co
    6 Microsoft
    7 Roche
    8 Novartis
    9 Johnson & Johnson
    10 Toyota
    11 Apple
    12 Pfizer
    13 General
    14 Merck
    15 Ford
    16 Daimler
    17 Cisco
    18 AstraZeneca
    19 Bristol-Myers Squibb
    20 Oracle United States


    Sorry to say IBM is not on the list.

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  9. Time to move on by lucm · · Score: 2

    IBM has converted way more American jobs into offshore ones than Apple has.

    First, that comparison makes no sense because Apple doesn't have a professional service division, which is the one that for the most part got outsourced at IBM. Also Apple could hardly convert American jobs into offshore ones since the bulk of their operations is *already* handled by Chinese cheap labor.

    But that's besides the point. IBM basically invented professional services and IT outsourcing; they did that at a time when it was economically viable, and now that offshore firms are eating away at this market they're moving on. From a strategic perspective it makes sense; skilled labor is dirt cheap and it's now the norm, not the exception, for a large company to use offshore IT workers via one of the big European slave runners (E&Y, Deloitte, PwC, Cap Gemini, etc). Profit margin is gone, it's now a volume game and that's usually the moment IBM walks away from a business segment.

    IBM is not cool and not sexy but they're a sound business that consistently adapts to new market conditions. I'd rather drink a tall glass of bleach than work for them, but they're definitely a blue chip stock. Just in 2016 for ytd return they're over 20%, while Apple (10%) is below S&P 500 (13%).

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  10. crybaby by SuperDre · · Score: 2

    This is typical behaviour of a crybaby which Apple is.. If you use the patents, pay for it, Apple sue's other companies for using it and expects them to pay, so why not do it yourself..