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Facebook Developing Copyright ID System To Stem Music Rights Infringement (billboard.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Billboard: As Facebook continues to grapple with its role in proliferating "fake news" amidst the heated U.S. election this year, it has another showdown looming on the horizon -- this one with the music industry. In the wake of NMPA president/CEO David Israelite's op-ed in Billboard in October, in which he called out the social media giant for hosting videos with copyrighted music without securing licensing deals or paying creators, Facebook is working to develop a copyright identification system -- similar to YouTube's Content ID -- that would find and remove videos containing copyrighted music, a source tells Billboard. The story was first reported by the Financial Times. One music industry source, confirming Facebook's plans to develop a copyright ID system, says the company has a massive infringement problem in regards to music on the site. "They see the huge amount of traffic music content is responsible for on their platform and don't want to be on the wrong end of an artist fight," the person says. "They also see that there's a potential opportunity to position themselves as friendly to content creators as opposed to YouTube, so they are working fast to get this right." Talks between Facebook and the major labels are underway to license content moving forward, Billboard has learned, though they are still in the preliminary stages. In its report, the Financial Times referenced a source saying a deal would not be done before the spring.
Appeasing the RIAA is not going to win them any friends among the "content-creators."
so you can't show my face without my permission
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The Facebook has benefited, undoubtedly, from it's inherent ubiquitous relevance.
Though it is plausibly due to the sudden decline in the stock of twitter, we should not be colored surprised at the revelation that these popular forums are as difficult to turn profitable as some of the dotcom companies.
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how will this stop copyfraud?
Jay Leno hears a musical bit and includes it in the Tonight Show broadcast (without obtaining the rights to do so).
NBC uploads the Tonight Show to YouTube's ContentID system to declare their right to the 'NBC' broadcast. Except of course it contains the musical bit from someone else. Yet NBC is now claiming ownership of something they most certainly don't
Automated process at YouTube takes down anything matching ContentID except the 'original' content.
Except NBC isn't the owner or the original content. They are just the 900 lb gorilla who gets to throw their weight around.
NOTHING about content online conveys whether it is legal. Clearly it can be legal in MULTIPLE places (though not in this case). If NBC had licensed this, how would ContentID or FB's concept differ between 2 valid instances?
The original artist is under no obligation to register anything with anyone. copyright is granted simply by creating it. yet this system would actively undermine their legal rights.
People in cars cause accidents....accidents in cars cause people
I used a couple of pop songs in my yearly video _last_ year, and it found and removed my post within minutes (it wasn't even public - just for friends).
I had to resort to embedding youtube video, that happily shows ads and allows you to buy these songs - I really wish Facebook had same, since watching youtube video on mobile in facebook client is suboptimal...
streamed games and music = double dip or more.
As the RIAA wants the game makers and the streamer to both pay for the rights.
Posted a video of some game footage.
Got an angry message from Facebook threatening to delete my account. (That reminds me, I should really upload more copyrighted songs; do me the favor, Zuck the Cuck.)
Said fuck it, threw the vidya on YouTube, got a nice notice stating the label of a crazy ass metal band from the Netherlands was totally cool with it so long as I opted to let YouTube throw ads on my vidya.
YouTube is shit tier for copyright and other bullshit, and even they've got a system that's miles beyond anything Shitbook can dream of.
I really hope it auto-bans after 3 strikes, cannot delete my account in any way.
If people stopped filming themselves with music playing in the background, their videos would stop being flagged. Also, if you're trying to tell us something with music playing in the background, WE CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
Idiots.
But when you are using something under fair use you do not need to pay for it even if you are making money off it.
https://www.youtube.com/result...
...unless displaying your face falls under fair use in which case you can't do squat.
The people making the videos or whatever that use the music come under fair use so no, they don't have to pay anything and their activities should be protected by law, i.e. the copyright holders have no right to ask them to stop. However, Facebook place advertising on pages next to user generated content and therefore make money out of it. It's only fair that Facebook shares the proceeds under a reasonable agreement with the copyright holders.
Fairness and intellectual property. Ha, ha, that's ridiculous.
Hey, Facebook? Ponder a moment, if you will.
Who do you get your money from?
Right, advertisers and people who buy the data you mine from your users.
What do you need for that?
Right, people who put their life online for you to mine, and people to display ads to.
Why do people use your platform to do this?
Right, because you let them display what they create on your platform.
And what could people stop using your platform?
You trashing their videos for some arbitrary reason.
In other words, I hope the *IAA is paying you a lot of money for making your platform less appealing to the product you actually want to sell.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Two years ago when my mom-in-law died, my wife posted a tribute she made with old home movies, set to Bette Midler's "Wind Beneath My Wings." FB flagged the post on copyright. Two weeks ago, at my daughter's dance recital, my sis-in-law tried to post a short clip of her dance routine and again, FB blocked it for music copyright.
Are FB working on a revenue-sharing/monetisation model beyond the obviously extant copyright flagger they have now?
Defending IP by destroying access to it? That makes sense, RIAA/MPAA. Go to the corner until you can play nice!
NBC uploads the Tonight Show to YouTube's ContentID system to declare their right to the 'NBC' broadcast. Except of course it contains the musical bit from someone else. Yet NBC is now claiming ownership of something they most certainly don't
This violates the terms of service of YouTube Content ID. A copyright owner that uploads reference material to Content ID is expected to scrub its uploads of all material to which it does not own the exclusive right.
NBC owns copyright in each episode as a collective work. But under the Content ID TOS, NBC is expected to blank and/or mute portions of said collective work used under nonexclusive license from others or under fair use or other statutory copyright limits before uploading the collective work as reference material.
Perhaps someone might end up having to take NBC to court for defamation of title before this stuff is reformed.