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Paintings Reveal Signs of Alzheimer's and Parkinson's In Famous Artists (gizmodo.com)

Researchers from the University of Liverpool believe it is possible to detect cognitive decline in the paintings of famous artists by analyzing subtle changes in their brush strokes over time. The technique may one day be used to flag Alzheimer's and Parkinson's in artists before they're diagnosed. Gizmodo reports: A new study published in Neuropsychology shows that a mathematical technique known as "fractal analysis" can be used to detect signs of neurodegeneration in an artist's work. A research team led by Alex Forsythe from the University of Liverpool's School of Psychology made the discovery by examining 2,092 paintings from the careers of seven famous artists who experienced either normal aging or neurodegenerative disorders. Using fractal analysis, the researchers were able to identify complex geometric patterns in the brushstrokes of each artist. Fractals can reveal hidden and often self-repeating patterns in everyday objects and phenomena. These distinctive geometrical shapes are like fingerprints, allowing scientists to match an artist with his or her work. With this in mind, Forsythe's team sought to learn if variations in an artist's fractal fingerprint over time are a function of increasing age, or if neurological decline has something to do with it. For the study, the researchers examined paintings from four artists known to have suffered from either Parkinson's or Alzheimer's, namely Salvadore Dali, Norval Morrisseau, James Brooks, and Willem De Kooning. The researchers also studied the works of three artists who had no known neurodegenerative problems: Marc Chagall, Pablo Picasso, and Claude Monet. Fractal analysis demonstrated clear patterns of change among the artists who suffered neurological deterioration compared to those who aged normally. In all cases, the fractal fingerprints changed, but the fractal dimensions produced by the Parkinson's and Alzheimer's artists showed consistent patterns that were distinguishable from the healthy group.

24 comments

  1. BUY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because RSN they be D.E.A.D.

  2. this is too broad, and useless, data analysis by sittingnut · · Score: 4, Insightful

    in the first place, this is too general, and group too many conditions together (derived from too few clues) to be precise and informative .

    second, what is the point?
    either we know the artist had these conditions or not already. if we don't, we can't do a correct diagnosis based on this limited method anyway.
    nor do this say anything valuable about the creation or creative process, since even if artist had some condition that can be diagnosed, that is just one factor at the time, his emotional and mental states and his relationships, probably had more to do with his creations. nor does a person's physical state remain constant even with a condition; whether he slept, was drugged up, what he ate, etc, are probably more relevant.

    third, technologically, this is just another hyped up application of data analysis.

    1. Re:this is too broad, and useless, data analysis by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 2

      in the first place, this is too general, and group too many conditions together (derived from too few clues) to be precise and informative .

      I agree with you there. I wonder if there isn't some confirmation bias going on. The first article says they "examined paintings from four artists know to have suffered from either Parkinson's or Alzheimer's". I think it's too easy to pick out things and say "See? I told you he had Alzheimer's".

      second, what is the point?

      If you could actually detect things like that based on a person's life work, be it painting or accounting or software development it might be a very valuable tool.

      I'm wondering what it could tell from the software I've written over the years. Of course the early code was written by a young energetic idealistic naif and in recent years it's been written by a crotchety guy set in his ways but who thinks he's still open-minded.

      Could that be an early sign of Alzheimer's or am I just getting older? (I console myself by saying I'm wiser now, but to be honest I just don't care as much - maybe that is wiser?).

      If you could combine the wisdom and experience I have now with the youthful energy and idealism of my earlier years....I might even be good at what I do.

    2. Re:this is too broad, and useless, data analysis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, i think so as well. You'd far more easily deduce a persons ability/inability/difficulty writing /communicating and learning things would be far more revealing and you need not be a top researcher or MD to know that .

    3. Re:this is too broad, and useless, data analysis by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I wonder if there isn't some confirmation bias going on. The first article says they "examined paintings from four artists know to have suffered from either Parkinson's or Alzheimer's". I think it's too easy to pick out things and say "See? I told you he had Alzheimer's".

      I wonder if you read TFA: The researchers also studied the works of three artists who had no known neurodegenerative problems: Marc Chagall, Pablo Picasso, and Claude Monet.

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    4. Re: this is too broad, and useless, data analysis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ALL those artist are fucking dead and long gone. How do they know what diseases they had and didn't have?

    5. Re:this is too broad, and useless, data analysis by gilgongo · · Score: 1

      "second, what is the point?"

      Proof of concept on a method of diagnosis of early-onset cognitive disorders.

      "this is just another hyped up application of data analysis"

      Seems you are a bit of a rage boy in this.

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      "And the meaning of words; when they cease to function; when will it start worrying you?"
    6. Re:this is too broad, and useless, data analysis by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 1

      I wonder how I quoted it if I didn't read it.

      Okay, so they also studied works by other artists who had no known neurodegenerative problems.

      And that disproves my point?

      Actually, I think it reinforces it.

      I read the article. I did not read the study. Maybe there really is something to it, but I'm skeptical.

    7. Re:this is too broad, and useless, data analysis by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1

      It's also a damn small sample space to produce any real conclusions.
      Typical "social science" horseshit.

  3. eyesight problems? by gravewax · · Score: 2

    So how did they differentiate the severe eyesight problems from cataracts and other degenerative disaorders that massively changed painters styles (like Monet) to effects caused by Parkinsons or alzheimers?

    1. Re:eyesight problems? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Wild guess: blurred & colour biased eyesight doesn't cause tremors that show up in brushstrokes.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    2. Re:eyesight problems? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no but plenty of other degenerative disorders do like arthritis which had no real treatment for back then.

    3. Re:eyesight problems? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Perhaps your finger got tired, but it was mentioned that there was a control group who didn't have any degenerative diseases, AFAWK.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  4. 6 samples? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They had only six people in their sample study and they want to draw conclusions from that??

    1. Re:6 samples? by RDW · · Score: 2

      ... and no independent test set to determine if their method can detect neurodegeneration in samples where the algorithm does not already know the neural status of the artists?

    2. Re:6 samples? by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 1

      Fractals are magic.

      Don't question them.

      Fractals can reveal hidden and often self-repeating patterns in everyday objects and phenomena.

      It doesn't say how exactly, but I remember when I first learned about fractals. It was Chaos

      Unfortunately Gizmodo doesn't explain their methods and I'm too tired to read the actual study.

      Every once in a while I attribute things to fractals, particularly Cantor Dusts. People look at me weird, but they think I'm smart when I say stuff like that.

  5. This falls under ... by Boronx · · Score: 1

    "Too good to check" department.

  6. Did they get better by SpaghettiPattern · · Score: 2

    Would the paintings -contrary to what we'd instinctively believe- actually got better with in spite of the deterioration of the body?

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    I hadn't the slightest objection to his spending his time planning massacres for the bourgeoisie... (P.G. Wodehouse)
  7. Next painter analyzed should be JMW Turner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The next painter analyzed should be JMW Turner. He wasn't a "predecessor" of Impressionism: He invented it, almost literally with his bare hands, since was not afraid to use his fingers and their nails to shape the paint. There was nothing about painting any of the Impressionists could have taught Turner.

  8. Sounds like hindsight. by tietokone-olmi · · Score: 1

    Whatever the fancy term for hindsight is (selection bias? or some such), it's clearly unavoidable in any study of 6.

    Did they find an absence of these signs in the works of artists who didn't die of nervous system degenerative disease?

  9. Salvador Dalí by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 1

    Not Salvadore. Come on, this is easy. Other than this, it is rumored that, at the end of his life, Salvador Dalí would crawl around in his home, literally drivelling, while claiming that he was a snail.

  10. More obvious by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    I'm pretty sure Monet and Van Gogh had vision problems; it's obvious from their paintings. But gauging neurological problems from brush strokes sounds pretty sketchy to me.

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    I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
  11. Re: Limo rental services by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fuck off. Go spam somewhere else you asshole.