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Scribd Pulls Digital Comics From Its Subscription Reading Service (the-digital-reader.com)

Popular ebooks platform, Scribd has quietly removed digital comics from its subscription reading service. According to a report on The Digital Reader, the feature was added in February 2015, and may have been pulled as part of a cost-cutting measure. From the article: Scribd confirmed the news in a statement: "We launched comics in 2015, and while we were excited to bring new content to our readers, few actively took advantage of them. We will be focusing our efforts on enhancing the experience surrounding our other great content types including books, audiobooks, magazines, and documents. We alerted comic readers of the news via email in early December. We understand that this news is disappointing to comic readers. This was a difficult decision, and we hope that they'll explore the rest of what Scribd has to offer in the coming months." It's interesting that Scribd says that they informed subscribers, because that is not the impression I get from the complaints on Twitter. Many were surprised when they noticed, and based on the timestamps the comics were apparently pulled on or before 1 December.

32 comments

  1. I don't know scribd by ls671 · · Score: 1

    I don't know scribd but any newspaper without comics is a shame...

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    1. Re: I don't know scribd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Newspapers are dead

    2. Re:I don't know scribd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know scribd...

      Think Netflix for ebooks.

    3. Re: I don't know scribd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Newspapers are dead

      Oh, that's very fascinating to me. I read a lot myself. Some people think I'm too intellectual but I think it's a fabulous way to spend your spare time. I also play raquetball. Do you have any hobbies?

  2. Scribd will be defunct soon. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I looked at their offerings a while back and found the attitude of their website offensive.

    They will never get any money from me, and I suspect I am not alone in this sentiment.

    1. Re: Scribd will be defunct soon. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope. You are not alone.

      Man, I didn't even realize Scribd was still around.

  3. Obligitory "Beware of the Leopard" Joke by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    >> Scribd says that they informed subscribers

    "...in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying "Beware of the Leopard."

  4. "As a cost-cutting measure..." by camperdave · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is the problem with subscription services; the provider can change their mind at a whim as to what they provide, leaving subscribers in the lurch. We saw it with the disappearing e-books a while back. Cell phone providers are changing plans all the time, as are TV providers. The situation will only get worse with Software-As-A-Service providers. What are you going to do when your budget software service goes under, or is acquired by a bigger provider and is shut down? Or when your backup provider stops supporting your OS?

    ... and this is on top of all the third party data sharing, affiliate advertising, and security bypass "features" that modern services employ.

    I heartily recommend avoiding subscription services like the plague.

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    1. Re:"As a cost-cutting measure..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the love of Pete, mod parent up!

    2. Re:"As a cost-cutting measure..." by umafuckit · · Score: 1

      I heartily recommend avoiding subscription services like the plague.

      Some subscription services offer a sufficient net benefit that I can overlook issues such as disappearing content. I subscribe to Spotify and it's been enormously beneficial for my musical appreciation on various levels. Yes, every two or three months I notice something on my list is no longer there. Sometimes it re-appears again, sometimes not. If I really miss that content, I can always purchase it.

      I agree that I wouldn't trust a service-based backup system. Neither do I make serious use of Google's services such as Keep, or the office stuff, since I don't know if they'll still exist in two or three years. With cellphone, home internet and TV there is little choice but to go for a subscription. That said, when I next move I will switch those services to a smaller companies with a track record of providing good support and not being dicks.

    3. Re:"As a cost-cutting measure..." by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      This is the problem with subscription services; the provider can change their mind at a whim as to what they provide, leaving subscribers in the lurch.

      This is only a problem if you pay for a long period (e.g. a year) at a time, and they refuse to refund your unused portion if they substantially reduce their relevant offerings.

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    4. Re:"As a cost-cutting measure..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's less of a problem. There is a cost to switch; though you can lessen the impact the cost is still non-zero in toto.

  5. another one by xlsior · · Score: 3, Informative

    Amazon has pulled tons of comics from their Kindle Unlimited subscription services as well in the past: http://goodereader.com/blog/e-... Apparently the big 'problem' with comics (compared to novels) is that the average reader can/will read a few of them in an hour, as opposed to be a few days/weeks for a novel, which really skews the payments and projections, making them too expensive to cover costs under the subscription. Plus there's often extra deals with the publishers like no cost if the reader reads less than 10% of the book which is not uncommon with novels, but for the average comic books that's only a couple of pages so pretty much every reader hits the threshold.

    1. Re:another one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Netflix are the main culprit for content removal, even if it's just a matter of them refusing to pay the content owners the substantially increased fees for shows that have mini revivals (thanks to Netflix).

      Comics are massively over priced for what they are. It takes a few days to make them, and a series can easily run into 100+ in no time. Perhaps they need bundling up into annual editions and to be treated like graphic novels.

    2. Re:another one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Full color with good detail requires a lot of hours. Even stuff like manga where the vast majority are B/W, 18 pages per week amounts to several hundred man-hours between the main artist and assistants. Then again, I suppose the pricepoint depends on the print run: The same manga volume that has an MSRP of $4 in Japan has an MSRP of $10-13 in the US due to the much smaller print runs.

    3. Re:another one by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

      I don't see a big difference. It should take a similar amount of time to draw a page as to write a page worth of words. It takes a few solid months to write a couple hundred page novel, even for pulp authors. A comic book artist should be able to outdo that, but since comic books are shorter even a page a day or less will have the comic book project finished before the novel.

      I think what might be the issue is that artists/graphical designers have marketable skills, while authors do not. Their are loads of people who need things drawn, while there will always be more people wanting to write books than there is demand, so the authors are more driven.

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    4. Re:another one by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

      And this is not even taking into consideration that we live in the digital age, and most pages can have large sections just copied form previous pages. No reason to redraw the background for the same location, no reason to redraw Superhero guy, when you already have a library of him in 500 different poses.

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    5. Re:another one by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      No reason to redraw the background for the same location, no reason to redraw Superhero guy, when you already have a library of him in 500 different poses.

      Up to a point; I guess if you're not careful you could end up with the print equivalent of 70s and 80s Saturday morning kids' cartoons that relied on stock animation that became just a little too visibly familiar.

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  6. Scribd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Is there a point to this site, other than commandeering .PDFs and placing them inside a tiny JS browser in the center of your screen (and making any sort of download very difficult or impossible to find)?

    1. Re:Scribd by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Informative

      It does much more than that, like getting you to sign up for a free trial and then charging you for it.

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  7. This is really gay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Would someone care to post some real news? Some idiot sues Apple because a driver was using iFruit, and now this. Slashdot going the way of the Digg.

    1. Re:This is really gay by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Hey, be happy it's at least tech news and not yet another politics story.

      But just one story up we have some slashvertisment for a SoC nobody gives a shit about running an OS even fewer people give a shit about, maybe that's more up your alley.

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  8. No comics... by Archfeld · · Score: 1

    I had the Yuma Sun coming in dead wood only because of the comics. Their digital subscription doesn't include the Sunday Comics or the mass of inserts you normally see on the Sunday paper and I missed them. I recently dropped the digital version when they began charging an additional fee to get both the printed and the digital version. It seemed odd but economically it was cheaper and fit my needs better to just get the dead wood version. I can only surmise that there was an additional licensing fee for the comics online, and that it was significant enough that the publishers felt they could not pass it on and maintain a low dollar cost point that people would continue to pay.

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  9. Comics are not economically viable. Period. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Until the early 1970s comics were competitive with other forms of entertainment. That is, in cents per hour for a new, on-demand product. But the problem was always distribution. Being aimed at kids, comics brought in the lowest profits. In the early 1970s the mom and pop stores began to phase out comics in favour of more profitable items. Comics ceased to be mass market, so they ceased to compete with other forms of mass market entertainment. They have been in long term decline ever since.

    1. Re:Comics are not economically viable. Period. by Opportunist · · Score: 1, Troll

      The problem here being that comics are still thought of as being targeted at kids. In came Japan with its Mangas and blew that idea out of the water. And we were sitting there and staring wide eyed as they took over the more profitable market segment of the adolescent and young adult market, a demographic that was able and very willing to spend WAY more money on it than any "serious" adult would spend on "serious" newspapers or magazines, including a long tail of add-on products like figurines. And we're not talking about cheap 5 dollar plastic action figures that only become valuable collector's items after staying in their original box for 50 years, these are essentially the same plastic junk figurines selling for 50+ bucks.

      Still we don't learn and keep considering "comics" to be material for children. That's at least the only reason I could imagine why you can still find quite brutal anime series mixed into the Saturday morning cartoon lineup.

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    2. Re:Comics are not economically viable. Period. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Teenagers aren't the ones buying figures for $100... and while there are crane-game figures that are awful quality, the higher-end of the market does indeed have quite detailed build quality of a mix of material types.

      While comics most certainly aren't only for children, manga sales in the US/North America are rather lackluster. Especially after the 2008 economic downturn, they mostly bootleg them or subscribe to a service for a few dollars a month. IE: Naruto volumes sell around 25k in the US market as compared to 250k in France and over 1 million per volume in the home market in Japan.

    3. Re:Comics are not economically viable. Period. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I read somewhere that the NYT best seller list has a separate category for manga, because if they didn't, manga would dominate whatever category they would show up in.

    4. Re:Comics are not economically viable. Period. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem here being that comics are still thought of as being targeted at kids. In came Japan with its Mangas and blew that idea out of the water. And we were sitting there and staring wide eyed as they took over the more profitable market segment of the adolescent and young adult market, a demographic that was able and very willing to spend WAY more money on it than any "serious" adult would spend on "serious" newspapers or magazines, including a long tail of add-on products like figurines.

      My ISP once offered newsgroups, there was one Newsgroup: alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.anime that three years earlier a user started posting/uploading non-stop, so I'd grab all that was available, with the expectation of starting an anime website and even make a buck or two off the deal.

      Then the subject matter of some of these magazines came into question. Not only was the newsgroup dropped, the entire UseNet was removed. I figure someone unaware of the UseNet took a look and realized just what was available.

      I imagine any site posting any Anime, Manga or Hentai thats not an area or website for such is quietly shutting down these areas; or entire sections if too lazy to view them one by one.

  10. "Bang!" "Whudddd!" by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    Shocker! Comics stripped of their visual element are inane. These are not conversion to radio plays, which are often rich in description and dialog.

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  11. They really did warn people and it wasn't bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its not just the PDF scraper you are thinking of. It was a real service. At the price it was nice to burn through a bunch of comics but the selection was limited. I could always find a decent regular book to read as well and considered it a good value at $8 USD / month but when they announced the change around November I cancelled the same day.