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Obama Administration Releases Searchable Archive of Social Media Posts (theverge.com)

An anonymous reader writes: President Obama's entire social media presence as POTUS is now available in a single online archive. The administration today launched The Obama White House Social Media Archive, a searchable collection of everything the president and his administration posted on Instagram, Twitter, Flickr, Facebook, Google+, and Pinterest during his two terms in office. According to ArchiveSocial, the platform on which the archive is hosted, this includes more than 100 social media profiles associated with the White House and more than 250,000 total posts. As of right now, the archive's search function isn't the smoothest. A general search like "healthcare" will yield nearly 600 tangential results, including tweets from White House staffers. The Advanced Search will allow you to narrow things down a bit, with filters for date range and social media platform.

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  1. I got an idea by halivar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How about a searchable archive of lobbyists who show up at the WH. Heck, let's extend it to Congress, too.

    1. Re: I got an idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is the Dissociative Identity Disorder thing going, AC?

    2. Re: I got an idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You got proof that the climate data was doctored?

    3. Re: I got an idea by HornWumpus · · Score: 0

      Does historic data getting colder in newer datasets count or is your mind already made up?

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    4. Re: I got an idea by vux984 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Of course, that won't happen because it would be far too damning to liberals, and might result in criminal charges for the massive fraud against the American people.

      Of course, if the collective effort of scientists around the world doesn't convince you, then nothing the administration could release would.

      I'm curious though why you think the administration has a vested interest in systemically lying about the climate change science? I mean... what is the profit motive here? I get why tobacco companies funded and undermined cigarette studies; I get why car companies would dodge emission controls; I get why governments don't want to deal with native affairs; or crumbling infrastructure... so what is the motive for the government to go 'big' on climate change? There's plenty of money on the table from 'big oil' to drill-baby-drill, and they don't care who drinks from the trough in support of their business interests... so why is there this big conspiracy to fake climate change?? It's delusional.

      I mean, sure, science has gotten things wrong in the past, but its not a conspiracy... its just the scientific process of continual refinement, testing and re-testing claims etc. The brontosaurus was real... then it wasn't... no maybe it is again, but maybe with feathers... that's just the process. And yes, lots of 'bad science' is done, but it eventually washes out as more data is made available and more testing and validation of results is performed, as our knowledge and our techniques improve. So yeah mistakes are made, but betting -against- the latest consensens is not really a winning move. Yet you seem to think that on this ONE issue, not only is science wrong, but its a big conspiracy to fabricate it... by 'liberals' for... reasons? ... AND that you, a layperson, know better, despite virtually all the science being in general agreement.

    5. Re: I got an idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      L......O......L. Did he also doctor 90% of the worlds leading scientists studies as well? Look the scientific community has been wrong about a lot of things, and they may be wrong about this one, or not. But to suggest that its an Obama conspiracy is pretty far fetched.

    6. Re: I got an idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read the ClimateGate emails.

    7. Re: I got an idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very well, and we thank you for asking.

    8. Re: I got an idea by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ... what is the profit motive here?

      Many denialists believe that climatologists are faking climate change as part of a conspiracy to increase their research funding. Of course, that makes no sense. Their funding would be maximized if they published data that sowed uncertainty, and required "further study" rather than overwhelming evidence for warming. It also ignores the difficulty of maintaining a secret conspiracy against the interests of humanity, involving thousands of otherwise honest people.

    9. Re: I got an idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course, that won't happen because it would be far too damning to liberals, and might result in criminal charges for the massive fraud against the American people.

      Of course, if the collective effort of scientists around the world doesn't convince you, then nothing the administration could release would.

      ...

      When that "collective effort" means a response to mere "OK, prove it" skepticism is to label the skeptic a heretic, errr, denier, YOU'RE GOD DAMN RIGHT THAT COLLECTIVE EFFORT WILL NEVER CONVINCE ME OF ANYTHING.

      If saying "Show me the data" results in name-calling, the name callers do NOT have "science" on their side.

    10. Re: I got an idea by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Does historic data getting colder in newer datasets count or is your mind already made up?

      Historic data is not "getting colder". Don't believe everything you read in the Breitbart comments section.

      http://www.csmonitor.com/Scien...

      http://arstechnica.com/science...

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    11. Re: I got an idea by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      90%? Where did you come up with that figure?

    12. Re: I got an idea by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      I read them. I understand them. There was no doctoring. The "doctoring" that people claim occurred was basically when scientists discussed ways to transform datasets so that analysis was easier. For example linearization of exponential growth is one such method of transforming data.

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    13. Re: I got an idea by ClickOnThis · · Score: 2

      Of course, that won't happen because it would be far too damning to liberals, and might result in criminal charges for the massive fraud against the American people.

      Of course, if the collective effort of scientists around the world doesn't convince you, then nothing the administration could release would.

      ...

      When that "collective effort" means a response to mere "OK, prove it" skepticism is to label the skeptic a heretic, errr, denier, YOU'RE GOD DAMN RIGHT THAT COLLECTIVE EFFORT WILL NEVER CONVINCE ME OF ANYTHING.

      If saying "Show me the data" results in name-calling, the name callers do NOT have "science" on their side.

      Except that's not what the collective effort of scientists has entailed.

      Scientists have presented their evidence time and time again. The Denialists are like the Birthers: they keep asking for evidence even after it has been provided.

      Eventually, scientists get fed up with trying to convince people who refuse to be convinced, no matter how much evidence you put in front of them.

      And I feel pretty safe in saying that those who scream "show me the data" would not be able to understand the data anyway.

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    14. Re: I got an idea by bazorg · · Score: 1

      so what is the motive for the government to go 'big' on climate change?

      One possibility here is that once people accept that climate and the environment in general needs to be continuously managed, this would mean that left wing interventionist governments need to be the de facto standard.

    15. Re: I got an idea by misexistentialist · · Score: 1

      Being part of the "consensus" is the most securely lucrative strategy. And it's more accurate to assume most people are cheaters than "honest people"

    16. Re: I got an idea by fbobraga · · Score: 1

      It's not a measure, but a figure of speech (meaning "almost all"): you didn't get that?

    17. Re: I got an idea by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      Especially since the data is largely public, and can be found with a google search.

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    18. Re: I got an idea by Kernel+Kurtz · · Score: 1

      Also gaming the peer review system. And hiding data.

    19. Re: I got an idea by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      By "hiding data" you mean how scientists were reluctant to give their data to complete strangers that already showed their bias. Also the same scientists had not finished their analysis yet. That's like The neighbor that hates you asking to see your work proposal before you're done with it. What do you think is going to happen to the proposal? Do you think your neighbor who has no expertise with your work is going doing it to be nice? Also please describe what you mean by gaming the system. I have a feeling you don't know what you're talking about.

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    20. Re: I got an idea by Kernel+Kurtz · · Score: 1

      By "hiding data" you mean how scientists were reluctant to give their data to complete strangers that already showed their bias.

      Yes. Science is supposed to be an adversarial process. Whining that others may try to disprove your conclusions is decidedly unscientific.

      Also please describe what you mean by gaming the system.

      “I can’t see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin and I will keep them out somehow — even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!”

    21. Re: I got an idea by whodunit · · Score: 1

      The truth lies somewhere between the extremes, as usual - anthropocentric global warming is real, and the "scientific consensus" is not unbiased.

      A decade ago, I was a global warming skeptic. I felt that it hadn't been fully established that it was happening, and that even if it was, it wasn't proven to be anthropocentric. Five years ago, I held it was most certainly happening, but anthropocentric root causes were still up in the air. Today? I believe it's happening and> that human activity causes it. This change of heart was brought about by a decade of continual scientific improvement, refinement, and study. I demanded "more research," and I'll be damned if they didn't go out and do it.

      Unfortunately, that doesn't end the political debate. To put it in policy debate terms, once we've established the "inherency" (proven what the status quo is) now we must explore 1. what the consequences are of letting this go forward unchecked and 2. what we should do about it. And this debate doesn't come without teeth - there's a tremendous amount of money at stake here. Hell, there are entire companies that do nothing but purchase carbon credits and re-trade them to other companies. To say nothing of how Global Warming is used to justify and defend lavish government grants for alternative energy research (much like Russians are used to justify and defend lavish government grants for weapons research, for that matter.) There is very, very much a financial and political angle to all these concerns. One must remember that us knuckle-dragging seal-clubbing conservatives have been listening to hyperventilating eco-activists predicting flooded cities and other doomsday scenarios for decades now. I remember the expression that crawled over my face when Al Gore's two hour powerpoint presentation paused long enough to share lurid stories of drowning polar bears, how sad. The fear-mongering and partisan interests are all wrapped up in a smug veneer of superiority - as Emmit Rensin, editor at Vox.com called it, a "condescending, defensive sneer toward any person or movement outside of its consensus, dressed up as a monopoly on reason." By matching the pattern of arrogant dismissal, it is dismissed out of hand in turn.

      This dynamic extends to the scientists themselves - but it just means they're human, not wrong. The hockey stick graph, climategate, et al only shows that scientists are aware of how their data is interpreted by the media, and that they're concerned about their data being spun the "wrong" way. Five seconds of reading the daily news proves these concerns entirely legitimate. That's all that "climategate" was; internal e-mails between scientists bitching about how the media spins or distorts their findings, and discussion about how to prevent or counter it.

      That's not how science is used in the Global Warming debate, however - it's invariably invoked as Holy Writ, the incontestable word of Truth, and all who fail to bend a knee before it are branded lunatics and Republicans, forever illogical and excommunicate. The inherent biases of science are not exactly old news, but there's a powerful incentive to gloss over those details when money and political capital are involved - and don't delude yourself into thinking they aren't! This naturally leads to an out-of-hand rejection from those of conservative bent, and the Science ends up thrown out with the bathwater.

      This has to stop. Global warming is happening, we are causing it, and economically devastating policies to contain it will never gain much traction and thus will never work. The rational, sane adults on both sides of the aisle have to start ta

    22. Re: I got an idea by mean+pun · · Score: 1

      Whining that others may try to disprove your conclusions is decidedly unscientific.

      Complaining that people will use the data for crackpot theories that will take months to refute may not be scientific, but we scientists are only human, and we prefer to do useful things rather than argue with idiots. Especially if these idiots categorically and proudly refuse to understand scientific arguments. I'm working in a field that attracts few crackpots, but I don't envy the people that again, again, again, and again have to refute the nutty theories about climate change, thermodynamical laws, evolution, and other fields that attract the loons.

    23. Re: I got an idea by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Yes. Science is supposed to be an adversarial process. Whining that others may try to disprove your conclusions is decidedly unscientific.

      And the scientists had no problem with showing the data when they present it (like they do in all papers). The problem they had was giving raw unfinished data to people who were felt entitled to it and were biased against it. It was the equivalent of you asking for all the lab results from your doctor because you don't believe him or her on their continuing diagnosis. It's not that you'll give the results to some other doctor; no you'll give it to a foundation based on spiritual healing that needs it to "prove" that modern medicine is quackery.

      “I can’t see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin and I will keep them out somehow — even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!”

      Perhaps you'd like to do some research before you proceed.

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    24. Re: I got an idea by coteriescavenger · · Score: 1

      Said the slashdot user. Seriously, just because the MSM is bitter about losing their monopoly on the narrative doesn't mean you have to join them in their war against alternative media.

    25. Re: I got an idea by coteriescavenger · · Score: 1

      It's called confirmation bias, avoiding conflict, and lack of conviction. Don't attribute to malice what can easily be explained by incompetence. With limited data, the data could be interpreted a dozen ways. One of those interpretations is shocking and gets a lot of public attention, despite that it's based on a lot of assumptions. That, coupled with how people tend to overestimate their fears and underestimate the costs of avoiding them, it's easy to understand why this continues to be a bigger issue than it needs to be.

      The truth is, we have too little data to even pay attention to it. The data that we're seeing now is proving that the early predictions were false. They've moved the goal post to fit the data, but they still don't really know what they're looking at. In all likelihood, what the data is showing is a negative feedback system, where when temperature goes up, changes in the climate bring it back down.

    26. Re: I got an idea by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      "Alternative media"? Is that what it's called now?

      http://www.breitbart.com/big-g...

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    27. Re: I got an idea by Kernel+Kurtz · · Score: 1

      The problem they had was giving raw unfinished data to people who were felt entitled to it

      The CRU folks have trouble even keeping raw data at all - also so very scientific. Can't afford hard drive space apparently.

      I'm also quite capable of reading and understanding what people are saying when they think nobody else will know (especially) without going to an apologist website.

    28. Re: I got an idea by coteriescavenger · · Score: 1

      I'm trying to figure out what you think is so wrong about that article. You are aware there is nothing racist about it, right? The confederate flag represents state's rights to most people, as opposed to a powerful centralized Federal government.

      There's nothing wrong with that article. Breitbart is a target because social justice activists are afraid of what they're saying, and all they know how to do is scream racism and harassment.

    29. Re: I got an idea by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Yet you don't seem to be able to refute a single fact with any of your own facts.

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  2. Who Cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, who cares?

    1. Re:Who Cares? by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 1

      You cared enough to comment.

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    2. Re: Who Cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't.

  3. Just to screw with Trump by gurps_npc · · Score: 2

    I am sure this was done to intentionally create an expectation for Trump to do the same.

    Smart move.

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    1. Re:Just to screw with Trump by retroworks · · Score: 2

      Even if accidental, a precedent on presidents not "deleting tweets" is a good thing.

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    2. Re: Just to screw with Trump by gurps_npc · · Score: 2

      I'm sorry, did you just admit that you personally hacked the DNC?
      Or are you a member of a federal agency that investigated the alleged hacking and are illegally discussing your work without approval?

      Oh, wait a second, I see know that you are simply a shmuck that doesn't have any evidence or reason to disbelieve the police, and simply state that something the government said must be false without any evidence, merely because you don't like that it contradicts your own desires.

      The hacking obviously happened, and did not materially affect the election. It was stupid and childish, much like Russia's other MANY MANY propaganda attempts. The only question is who did it. Russia had the capacity, the motive, and a long history of providing pro-Trump propaganda (go read the RT, the new version of Pravda). The US government claims it has the evidence to indicate they did it. You have no evidence against this.

      You simply hate the fact that an enemy of this country agrees with you about who should be President.

      Tough shit, get used to the fact that you voted for someone that the despotic tyrant named Putin likes.

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    3. Re:Just to screw with Trump by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Why, just why? What purpose does serve. An historical record of fabricated for PR=B$ messages (with no hint to who actually wrote them or who came up with them or who decided they were appropriate.

      But I suppose it is the US, so why not keep up with the bullshit. In congress complaining about RT telling the truth about what is going on in the US vs US main stream media blatantly lying to promote corporate profit generating propaganda and no shame in this public display of third world corrupt politics douche baggery.

      So now this, another PR=B$ meaningless piece of bullshit about how open and honest the Democrats are, what a total load of codswallop. The two faced party, one for the public, the empty lip service party and one for the major campaign contributors, they live to serve as long as you pay.

      So now the craziness of Obamacare, a scam designed to maximise profits for health insurance companies and when universal health care finally makes it in the US, ensuring those health insurance scammers get the maximum government payout for shutting them down. It was far right health care and now what the Republicans are going to shut it down, oh no, now come the fucking excuses because it is exactly what the Health Insurance Corporations want. Brought in by lying corporate controlled Democrats (they were the only ones who could get away with it) and kept by Republicans because that is what they have been paid to do (expect some scammy meaningless bullshit reform).

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    4. Re:Just to screw with Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am sure this was done to intentionally create an expectation for Trump to do the same.

      Smart move.

      If that's the reason, that's awfully petulant.

    5. Re:Just to screw with Trump by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

      Even if accidental, a precedent on presidents not "deleting tweets" is a good thing.

      If the President "tweets", isn't it a public record that has to be maintained?

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    6. Re:Just to screw with Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because of the "public record" thing. Why does that bother you?

    7. Re:Just to screw with Trump by SeaFox · · Score: 2

      I'm sure Trump will do just that -- an archive of all the tweets he makes after he takes office.
      None of the crazy bigoted stuff he said or campaign promises he made to get elected that he isn't going to follow through on.

    8. Re:Just to screw with Trump by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      How does forcing Trump to release his 'social media' posts screw with anyone? Apart from the people who have to read it, of course.

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    9. Re:Just to screw with Trump by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 2

      The 'public record' thing that bothers me is that the whole point of Hillary having a private email server was to conceal her email traffic from the 'public record.'

      Also, I am wondering if Obama is going to put this whole archive on an iPad and present it to Queen Elizabeth II.

    10. Re:Just to screw with Trump by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      I am sure this was done to intentionally create an expectation for Trump to do the same.

      Smart move.

      If that's the reason, that's awfully petulant.

      Petulant? Between Obama and Trump, you tell me who fits that description.

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    11. Re: Just to screw with Trump by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 1

      Oh, wait a second, I see know that you are simply a shmuck that doesn't have any evidence or reason to disbelieve the police, and simply state that something the government said must be false without any evidence, merely because you don't like that it contradicts your own desires.

      The government is claiming that Russia was behind the hacks with no evidence themselves, if you haven't noticed.

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    12. Re:Just to screw with Trump by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 1

      Petulant? Between Obama and Trump, you tell me who fits that description.

      I know this one! It's the one that's having a temper tantrum and picking a fight with Russia because their party lost the election.

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    13. Re: Just to screw with Trump by gurps_npc · · Score: 1

      False. The government has evidence. Some they have released (the code was written in Russian, using Russian idioms that non-native speakers are not likely to use), and some they have not released for national security reasons.

      The released evidence may not be convincing, but at the very minimum, they do have some evidence. The deniers have no evidence and more importantly, HAVE MADE NO ATTEMPT TO GET ANY EVIDENCE.

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    14. Re:Just to screw with Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why, just why? What purpose does serve. An historical record of fabricated for PR=B$ messages (with no hint to who actually wrote them or who came up with them or who decided they were appropriate.

      Does it matter where the idea came from?
      If the president claims one thing, shouldn't he be held accountable for what he said regardless of who told him to say that?
      Shouldn't the president have enough balls to stand up for what he said and tell his puppet-master to sod off if he is being told to say something he doesn't agree with?

    15. Re: Just to screw with Trump by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 1

      Some they have released (the code was written in Russian, using Russian idioms that non-native speakers are not likely to use)

      This is, at best, evidence that Russians were involved in the hacks, not that Russia was behind the hacks.

      Given that the current administration is transparently using the situation to undermine the incoming president and deflect attention from the failings in their own party, they have zero credibility until they provide some real evidence.

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    16. Re:Just to screw with Trump by syntotic · · Score: 1

      Does it include FB comments? The post does not matter, but what YOU wrote in it... that is the point.

    17. Re: Just to screw with Trump by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      The guy who released the evidence saying he didn't get it from the russians or anybody associated with the Russian government vs. the presence of hacking tools available for download/purchase on the net that were likely originally written by Ruskys.

      Which side actually has evidence again?

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  4. Dear "My Government" by BigBuckHunter · · Score: 1

    Dear "My Government",

    Stop it. Stop posting to trash websites. Just stop.

    Anyone else need help? 5 mins for $5 and I don't make change.

    1. Re:Dear "My Government" by fbobraga · · Score: 1

      So governments can't contribute to scatlover.com anymore?! WTF?

  5. Don't wait too long... by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 0

    See it NOW , in a month the new junta will purge it.

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    1. Re:Don't wait too long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Won't the Wayback Machine's Canadian backup still have it?

  6. Bravo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Expecting a timely response for FOIA requests is too much but an archive Obama's social media presence is no problem? Give me a break.

    1. Re:Bravo by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      This was all already out there.

      But I bet they let stuff slip, unintentionally. I'm tempted to write some spider code, just to find the posts they have chosen to 'miss' and/or edit. Those will be interesting.

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    2. Re: Bravo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well in their defense most of the stuff that would fall under the freedom of information act was deleted with Hillary's email server by the FBI.

    3. Re: Bravo by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Not by the FBI, before the FBI got there, but after the subpoena.

      Which would have sent anybody else to jail, to say nothing of the fact they would deliver the subpoena with a battering ram for anybody else.

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    4. Re: Bravo by galabar · · Score: 1

      Yes, if you don't confiscate the server while delivering the subpoena, good luck...

    5. Re: Bravo by zedaroca · · Score: 1

      Actually they made a deal to delete everything afterwards. So the stuff that was not deleted before the FBI got there was deleted after.
      FBI Agreed To Destroy Laptops of Clinton Aides With Immunity Deal

  7. Re:Still won't release the important things... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How exactly do you prove you're not a Muslim?

    If Trump ever releases his taxes, I wonder if the stupidest people in America will still insist that he needs to release them. Or will you all still be obsessing over the need for more Obama birth certificates?

  8. I bet it has been edited in advance of release by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to present a more favorable history.

    1. Re:I bet it has been edited in advance of release by galabar · · Score: 1

      Should be easy to verify... and would be very funny. :)

  9. Re: Still won't release the important things... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Look up what an internet troll is and then maybe you won't feed them.

  10. Released from Gitmo, returned to terror? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can we also get a list of those released from Gitmo who returned to killing kafirs ?

    1. Re: Released from Gitmo, returned to terror? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd much rather get a searchable list of all national security letters and rulings by the FISA court. That would be worthwhile. Although social media posts made in the capacity of a government official are public records, they're not the public records that we really want to see. As for Gitmo, I really hope Obama faces the tough questions sometime about why he didn't keep his promise to close the detainment facility there.

  11. Transparency by Renaissancing · · Score: 1

    Thanks for making all of the already publicly available documents public, but not quite a notch on the ol' transparent belt.

    1. Re:Transparency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you mean? Obama's the most transparent president ever. Most people can see right through him.

    2. Re:Transparency by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      Most people can see right through [Obama].

      And what did they see?

  12. No Tinder? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2

    >> searchable collection of everything the president and his administration posted on Instagram, Twitter, Flickr, Facebook, Google+, and Pinterest

    Yeah - just want we wanted: the headlines from a hundred thousand press releases. How about some of the staff's Tinder profiles and the like instead?

    1. Re:No Tinder? by galabar · · Score: 2

      Hillary Clinton lost. So, Bill's Tinder account is safe.

    2. Re:No Tinder? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe, but is Hillary's Scissr account safe? Knowing how criminally irresponsible she is with government secrets, I would say it is not.

  13. Not that all the science is wrong. Gore made $172M by raymorris · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not that all the science is wrong (though of course some of it is), but your leaves me a bit puzzled why you'd even ask.
    > I mean... what is the profit motive here?

    I mean, really? That's like asking "where's the profit motive in the military industry?" The politicians having handed out tens of billions of dollars to their friends based on plans to do something "green" (and some hefty donations). Do you have any idea how many billions of your money and mine Gore Inc gave to green companies who never released a product?

    Heck even think of Gore himself. He rode AWG, mostly, into the White House. As he left the White House, he was worth $700K; over the next three years he and David Blood made $218 million profit from their carbon credit trading company. In three years, he personally made $172 from carbon trading. You don't see a profit motive there? Really?

    "Green" is the liberal slush fund just as "defense" was the conservative slush fund.

    Don't misunderstand me, national defense and environmental protection are both important. They also happen to be the multi-billion dollar industries that each of the parties chose to launder very large kickbacks in exchange for campaign contributions. If you haven't noticed that ... wow.

  14. Re:If only we can erase Trump's presence 2008-2016 by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

    Still in denial. Work on it.

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    John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  15. $172 million, not $172, of course by raymorris · · Score: 2

    I wrote:
    > In three years, he personally made $172 from carbon trading.

    Of course I meant:
    In three years, he personally made $172 MILLION from carbon trading.

    Does that mean the whole concept of global warming is all bullshit? No. Does it mean that Gore had a huge profit motive to hype it as much as possible (and got famous doing so)? Obviously.

    1. Re:$172 million, not $172, of course by rochrist · · Score: 1

      Maybe, but Gore is not the point. The point is the overwhelming consensus of working, highly qualified research scientists. And no, they aren't getting fat of that juicy grant money.

  16. Re:Not that all the science is wrong. Gore made $1 by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

    Do you have any idea how many billions of your money and mine Gore Inc gave to green companies who never released a product?

    How does any of that money benefit the climatologists that are "faking" AGW?

  17. Not fake, but 25 times as much grant money by raymorris · · Score: 1, Informative

    While Gore was handing out tax-funded grant money, and afterwards when his profit-making carbon exchange company was underwriting the work of scientists, do you think those grants went to scientists who pointed out Gore was mischaracterizing (exaggerating) the data? When a person who profits from AGW scare-mongering pays the scientist's paychecks, he's going to hire^H^H^H^H award grants to those scientists who support his viewpoint.

    Again, I'm not saying they're all full of shit, any more than the generals at the Pentagon who are serious about defending their country. Both know, however, that you don't get promoted by announcing that the boss is full of shit.

  18. Re:Not that all the science is wrong. Gore made $1 by quantaman · · Score: 1

    I mean, really? That's like asking "where's the profit motive in the military industry?" The politicians having handed out tens of billions of dollars to their friends based on plans to do something "green" (and some hefty donations). Do you have any idea how many billions of your money and mine Gore Inc gave to green companies who never released a product?

    There are a multitude of ways for politicians to shuffle money to their friends, a climate change conspiracy is hardly necessary.

    And even if true it does nothing to explain why the scientists are the ones actually pushing governments to do something.

    Heck even think of Gore himself. He rode AWG, mostly, into the White House. As he left the White House, he was worth $700K; over the next three years he and David Blood made $218 million profit from their carbon credit trading company. In three years, he personally made $172 from carbon trading. You don't see a profit motive there? Really?

    Which three years? Because I found an article on Al Gore getting a new worth of $200 million from a variety of sources, but only part of that came from his investment firm (presumably the thing you think did carbon credit trading?).

    Besides, even if Al Gore's interest in AGW was as a way to make money for him and his friends, a point I'm far from prepared to concede. It would discredit government action on AGW much more than the science itself.

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  19. Re:Not that all the science is wrong. Gore made $1 by vux984 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I mean, really? That's like asking "where's the profit motive in the military industry?"

    Not that I can see. The military industrial complex is of course HIGHLY motivated to sell us more weapons to the point of paying whatever it costs to install congress critters friendly to that agenda; and there really is no highly organized 'counter' complex opposed to this situation.

    The politicians having handed out tens of billions of dollars to their friends based on plans to do something "green" (and some hefty donations). Do you have any idea how many billions of your money and mine Gore Inc gave to green companies who never released a product?

    Itty bitty teeny tiny potatoes compared to big oil/coal/fossil, automotive, and every other industry that produces anything substantially non-green -- and they are in direct opposition to anything 'green'; and would be (and are) happy to fight tooth and nail to dismantle the EPA and every enviro-regulation or treaty on the books.

    Heck even think of Gore himself.

    Right. But for every gore there's 7 Rex Tillersons, 6 Exxon Mobils, FII-IIVE fracking com-pan-ies, 4 hydro dams, 3 french fried hens, 2 turtle soup makers, and a partridge in a pear tree fighting to keep it business as usual.

    "Green" is the liberal slush fund just as "defense" was the conservative slush fund.

    Its simply NOT comparable to the military industrial complex; because the vested opposition to the 'green' is vast, organized, and extremely well monied. The opposition to the military-industrial-complex is a few hippies... its laughable to suggest that 'green' has the same un-contested level of clout.

    They also happen to be the multi-billion dollar industries that each of the parties chose to launder very large kickbacks in exchange for campaign contributions. If you haven't noticed that ... wow.

    If you think the multi-billion dollar green industry is a drop in the bucket compared to the multi-TRILLION dollar industry that is decidely "un-green" ... wow. I mean... so-called "liberals" can be bought just like anyone else, and there's plenty of anti-green money lying around.

    It just doesn't make credible sense for the AGW crowd to be such a powerful deep rooted conspiracy with such a large and powerful opposition to what it stands for. It's ... delusional.

  20. Assange by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    Surprisingly, a search on "Assange" yields a single hit!

    1. Re:Assange by mmell · · Score: 1

      "A single hit" . . . headshot, or center of visible target?

  21. So don't question Iraq's WMDs? by raymorris · · Score: 2

    > There are a multitude of ways for politicians to shuffle money to their friends,

    There are many ways. Especially for smaller amounts of money. When presidents, vice presidents, and senior senators want to shuffle billions of dollars to their friends, they of course use a federal program that awards billions of dollars to private companies. There are a few to choose from. If you rose to power based on green rhetoric, you tend to have friends involved in such things, and that fits the need just fine. Some more or less legitimate - he supports Greenpeace, they support him. Some not so legitimate, like solar panel companies who take huge amounts of government money, and never bother to produce even one solar panel. He could have switched to advocating for huge new programs that build affordable housing and his friends could run housing developments that never got built, but why change? He was already the green guy, that's how he got press.

    > which three years

    2008-2011, shortly afterv testifying before Congress that cap and trade would cause investors to make a ton of money. His investment firm was heavy into carbon credits as they rose to $70/ton. After he sold out to investors, they dropped to ten cents per ton.

    > It would discredit government action on AGW much more than the science itself.

    After Bush Jr. used trumped-up intelligence about WMDs as his causus belli to invade Iraq, I questioned both his actions and his excuse. The yellowcake uranium did exist, as did parts and pieces for biological weapons, but the threat was greatly exaggerated by the politicians.

    When Gore used trumped-up studies about global warming as his causus belli for handing billions to his buddies (and indirectly, himself), I question both his actions and his excuse. Global warming bas a concept is a real thing, but the threat was greatly exaggerated by the politicians.

  22. What he *does* not what he *says* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Yeh, like his tax returns he promised to release and never did. Or sell off his foreign businesses and put his US ones in a blind trust... which he never did. Or the election income filing which contained ZERO information on *his* income and 100% FALSE information on his companies income?

    But since these are searchable *social* media posts, someone else can index them. I'm not sure what its worth for someone who contradicts himself all the time. Sanders pulled up this Trump tweet from the campaign:
    "I was the first & only potential GOP candidate to state there will be no cuts to Social Security, Medicare & Medicaid. Huckabee copied me." Which he's now saying the exact opposite on.

    The only thing he's consistent on is: Putin good, USA bad.

  23. 7 sentences. Hundreds of million$ isn't a coincide by raymorris · · Score: 1

    Bob: Hi Al, it's Bob. I wanted to give you a call and let you know I'm donating $80,000 to your PAC.
    Al: Thanks, Bob, what are you up to lately.
    Bob: I'm starting a company to research new solar-cell designs using federal grant money. It's called Solarslush. Would you like to be on the board next year when you're done with your VP gig?
    Al: Sounds great, Bob.

    It doesn't take a vast conspiracy. It takes a one-minute phone call.

    If you think it's a coincidence that the "green" companies paid Gore HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars right after he gave them billions in tax dollars, I'm sorry that's just naive.

  24. Re:Not that all the science is wrong. Gore made $1 by gurps_npc · · Score: 2

    You demonstrate incredible ignorance.

    1) Politicians are not as stupid as you think. They can find green products that actually make money. Yes some fail - so does some of any market segment. In general the green initiatives are just as profitable as any other business. If they were all scams, smart people would invade the market and out-compete the idiots,

    2) While it is true that millions go to green companies, billions go to non-green companies. This is obvious to anyone that looks at the economy (Five of the ten largest companies in the world are oil companies, plus an electrical grid and 2 car companies). When you make that much money it is EASY to get government subsidies. But they call them tax breaks, rather than subsidies

    3) In this case it is not a case of both sides being bad. Instead it is a clear case of an older established industry doing everything it can to stop a new technology that they are afraid is going to kill them. The new tech struggles to compete and has to beg the government that has been funneling billions to the old business to give them a few millions so they can survive.

    Then the old money says "hey, no fair giving them millions", all without mentioning their own billions.

    And you say, "duh, that's not right", in total ignorance of what is really going on.

    As of today, 2017, solar is the single most profitable energy source in certain low cloud, high sunlight areas. Granted, most humans don't live in these super hot, dry, parts of the world. But that wasn't true 20 years ago. Come 2030, someone (China and Germany are leading the way), will almost certainly have Solar cheaper than fossil fuels in areas where you have to pipe or ship the natural gas.

    But that requires an investment. China and Germany are making it, the question is:

    1) Will the US do it also, or will we cede this market to foreigners?

    2) If we do it, do we fund it with
    A) direct grants (requiring government to make science decisions)
    B) or instead via business rules that create a market based profit motive for private investors to do the funding.

    I vote for (2B), because I am an American capitalist. if you are a communist, vote (2A). Or Chinese/Russian, vote (1).

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  25. Re:If only we can erase Trump's presence 2008-2016 by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1, Troll

    Leftists, always looking to silence opposing views. That's why Trump is going to ignore the media and talk to the people directly. The media is a hostile filter and only exists to make him look bad. Just tell us directly. The media dropped their last pretense of objectivity during the election season and came full-out for Hillary. They cannot be trusted to report the truth, no matter how often they tell us otherwise. The whole world saw it.

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    Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
  26. Re:If only we can erase Trump's presence 2008-2016 by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

    Nope. Obama will still be 44th president. I'm afraid your bias will never change history no matter how much you want.

    --
    Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
  27. Re:If only we can erase Trump's presence 2008-2016 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    AS apposed to amightywind... the ultimate turd..

  28. Nobody cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nope, still don't care.

  29. Re:If only we can erase Trump's presence 2008-2016 by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

    Still in denial. Work on it.

    Trump is fair game for the next four years. Work on that.

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    If it weren't for deadlines, nothing would be late.
  30. Re:7 sentences. Hundreds of million$ isn't a coinc by vux984 · · Score: 2

    Again, its about the balance.

    For every time solar-Bob called greenboy-Al looking for some tit-for-tat for his solar slush fund there was old-coal-face-joe calling Senator open-for-business telling him there was 5 million dollars for his PAC if this 'green nonsense' would go away and he could get a fast track approval to grandfather running his smokestacks under 1950 standards because it would cost 20 million bucks to update them... or whatever.

    The idea that the 'green lobby' could have such overwhelming influence over policy in the face of all all the opposed lobbies, to the point that they government would be running a decades long campaign to literally suppress and fake the science is simply absurd.

    Especailly since old-coal-joe ALSO gets billions in taxpayer subsidies and support... so why aren't they whitewashing the science to show minimal impact? Al Gore isn't the only PAC open for business, and old-coal-joe has a LOT of money to spend...

    A liberal-green-conspiracy just lacks credibility.

  31. Re:Not that all the science is wrong. Gore made $1 by butzwonker · · Score: 2

    The opposite is the case. Large rant follows.

    The whole pseudo-debate about the validity of climate science research is instigated, paid for, and kept alive by lobby groups of the petrochemical industry. A whole bunch of fake scientists and lobbyists have made a career in various conservative think-tanks and fake 'institutes' in the US whose sole purpose is to spread doubt about scientific results that have been established world-wide and by independent research organizations, institutions and countries. The only reason why this topic has been politicized so much in the US is that the petrochemical industry is traditionally linked and intertwined with the Republican party more than with the Democrats.

    Nowhere else is the scientific consensus debated, the debate elsewhere is a fairly rational debate about the means to counter global warming and about how dangerous it may be for the respective country and its economy (how much to err on the side of caution, how much money to spend, etc.). This whole whole pseudo-debate is confined to the US only. No serious people outside the US have any reason to doubt the opinion of the vast majority of scientists world-wide, because elsewhere less lobbyist money has been spent and conservatives have no problems with accepting current scientific consensus. You have no idea how outright bizarre and batshit crazy this whole US pseudo-debate appears to the rest of the world, and if you're a conservative American, you should definitely start asking yourself whether mixing up values and facts in this anti-scientific way is really worth the damage in reputation. It is perfectly feasible to be conservative and accept the current state of the art of science (whether it later turns out to be wrong or right, that's a completely different question), in fact, I'm inclined to believe that many people with such views send mankind to the moon.

    The saddest thing is that most of the people who continue to politicize this purely scientific topic and 'debate' it as if it where a matter of deciding which values to defend do not even realize that they are just tools for the US oil lobby and for some Republican politicians who ran out of topics to distinguish themselves from no less conservative Democrats. They think they are discussing in a world-wide debate, whereas in reality they are lost in a homegrown disinformation campaign.

    Why don't you discuss quantum theory or relativity theory instead? Or how about particle physics? I'm sure you can cast doubt on particle physics, too, after all it's pretty clear that all of the areas of physics I've just mentioned are wrong somewhere and at some point. The standard model cannot be all there is, right. Maybe you can come up with some big conspiracy here as well, from the comfortable chair in your home and without doing some real work, and find some crackpot complaints that CERN doesn't release all their raw data on the Internet or has used some 'smoothing' to 'fake results'. I'll tell why you don't do that, though. Because there is no big industry with a huge lobby apparatus that would benefit from spreading doubts about current research in particle physics.

  32. Copyright violation!!11! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Posting on on the social network platforms all rights are handed over to them. They cannot create copies and publish them on their own. Any normal person would be sued into oblivion. Let's see what happens in this case.

  33. Re: If only we can erase Trump's presence 2008-201 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    His birther and idiotic comments were not "opposing views". They were lies. During Obama's entire presidency, his spouted off lies. It's obvious, verifiable, and embarrassing to the US.

    Lamenting we can't remove his crap was to actually make trump look better, not to silence an idiot.

  34. Coal face Joe won in 2016 by raymorris · · Score: 1

    > A liberal-green-conspiracy just lacks credibility.

    Really you haven't noticed a liberal-green alliance? Think of *any* "environmental" group and look up which politicians they contributed to. Hint - it's not Donald Trump. Gore is on the board of half the major green groups.

    "Old coal-faced Joe" didn't like "we're going to put a lot of coal companies and coal miners out of business". The politicians he supports won the 2016 election, not the 2004 election.

    1. Re:Coal face Joe won in 2016 by vux984 · · Score: 1

      Really you haven't noticed a liberal-green alliance?

      Of course I have. But it's tempered by other competing interests.

      1/3rd of all coal industry spending on senate candidates went to democrats. 20% of coal industry spending on congress went to democrats. Given the makeup of the houses they only need a minority of democrats in their pocket to further their agenda.

      And that's my point. They have MORE than enough influence to keep the liberal-green alliance from running amok.

      The parties don't move in lockstep.

  35. "How much to spend" is politics. Slush fund by raymorris · · Score: 1

    I'm guessing that in your country the politicians use some *other* program as their slush fund, to give taxpayer money to their friends.

    > about the means to counter global warming and about how dangerous it may be for the respective country and its economy (how much to err on the side of caution, how much money to spend, etc.)

    Disagreement about how much resources (money) should be spent on one thing versus another is the very basis of politics. That's not a scientific question. It should be, however, informed by science. "How dangerous it may be for a respective country" is a very important scientific question which bears directly on the policy questions of how much resources to devote to it.

    Unfortunately, even the lead authors of the UN studies on the topic strongly disagree on the answer to that question. Repected scientists have come to very different conclusions. Climatologists who serve on high-profile committees have made dire predictions about what would happen by 2015, and those dire scenarios didn't happen. In fact, rather than accelerating warming as predicted, global temperatures didn't increase at all 18 years after those predictions were made. I don't know about the "experts" that are well-known in your country, but US "experts" engaged in fear-mongering to get their name in the paper and their grants approved.

    Also unfortunately, in the US we happened to get a vice president who made his name and his from fear-mongering about this issue, and while he could have used any number of federal programs as his slush fund, he chose environmental programs as his slush fund. There's nothing special about environmental programs in this regard, it's just what happened to choose, like the mafia happens to use garbage disposal companies to launder money. That worked well and the party continued to use environmental programs to funnel money to their friends for the next 8 years.

    If the US politicians gave 20 billion dollars to their former business partner to research quantum physics, without any quantum physics work being done, I'd certainly question that, especially if the politician left the white house and joined the board of the non-researching quantum physics research company. If a major donor received a $2 billion grant to build a particle accelerator, and never began building a particle accelerator, I'd question that. That's the problem we have in the US - our politicians paying their friends billions of dollars of taxpayer money to not build solar panels.

    I'm all for protecting the environment; I was a member of Greenpeace for many years. I recycle, etc. When a Democrat politician over here says "I want to take $1 billion of your money and give it to Bob, because environment", unfortunately I have to try to figure out whether Bob is doing anything for the environment or just doing something for the politician.

  36. Re:Not that all the science is wrong. Gore made $1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >I mean, really? That's like asking ...

    Believe it or not, there are some of us at different ages & social development. We will ask questions because we really don't know. Your kind illumination will be appreciated, and we can go on into the world a little wiser than before we asked. Answering a question is not the time to punish or mock, it's your time to shine.

    Orig:
    >I mean, really? That's like asking "where's the profit motive in the military industry?" The politicians having handed out tens of billions of dollars to their friends based on plans to do something "green" (and some hefty donations).

    Reworded like a real man:
    Climate research is like the military industry. The politicians hand out tens of billions of dollars to their friends based on plans to do something "green", (and some hefty donations).

    _

  37. Re:If only we can erase Trump's presence 2008-2016 by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    Almost certainly eight years.

    The D, being in denial, will take the wrong lesson from this election and next nominate a crazed lefty. Assuring Trump a second term.

    --
    John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  38. WOW! I can't WAIT to use this!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    -- said no one, ever.

  39. Shooting off your cocksucker again troll? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I don't shoot my mouth off without knowing what I'm talking about" - by raymorris ( 2726007 ) on Thursday December 31, 2015 @09:29AM (#51215379)

    BS (I catch you shooting your mouth off fucking up constantly): 2 raymorris security fuckups https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5351503&cid=47379233/ & https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5351503&cid=47374033/ admitting you = script kiddie https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8895203&cid=51726265/

    &

    Tell us how ONLY 'newer script kiddie tools' have stringlength built in (when PASCAL had it for ages - my fav tool) https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8472509&cid=51114383/ YOU BLUNDERING WANNABE!

    APK

    P.S.=> You like to talk behind others' backs like the gossiping bitch TROLL you are raymorris https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9880997&cid=53312265/ well, here I am letting YOU TALK in those links, showing your FAILS wannabe ... apk

  40. Poor search skills by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "A general search like "healthcare" will yield nearly 600 tangential results, including tweets from White House staffers"

    As it should. What if you search for "healthcare Obama" or "healthcare POTUS" or ... literally any search with the word healthcare and one additional word related to what you want to find?

  41. Re:Still won't release the important things... by rochrist · · Score: 1

    Tragically stupid or troll. You be the judge.