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Apple Could Finally Sell More Devices Than Microsoft In 2017 (computerworld.com)

Gartner predicts Apple will ship more iOS and macOS devices in 2017 than Windows-powered devices "for the first time this century," and then increase their lead over the next two years. An anonymous reader quotes Computerworld: Gartner predicted that iOS + macOS, unlike Windows, will recover in 2017. Apple's OSes will climb 8% to 268 million this year, add 3% in 2018 to reach 276 million, then increase another 3% in 2019, with that year's device shipment forecast at 285 million. Windows will dip this year, then stagnate for the following two years... The gap between Microsoft and Apple -- 12 million last year, with Microsoft atop -- will widen to 27 million by 2019, advantage Apple.

"The global devices market is stagnating," said Gartner analyst Ranjit Atwal in a statement Wednesday. Mobile phone shipments are growing only in emerging markets in the Asia and Pacific markets, Atwal added, and noted that "The PC market is just reaching the bottom of its decline." The PC industry's troubles have affected Microsoft most of all; Windows is almost entirely dependent on PC shipments, which have been stuck in a protracted slump. Future shipments were further hit when Microsoft walked away from the smartphone business last year.

The article also points out that even in 2016, Windows devices came in second, and "accounted for approximately 11.2% of the total devices, which overwhelmingly ran Google's Android."

12 of 98 comments (clear)

  1. "which overwhelmingly ran Google's Android." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And every Android device sold gives Microsoft 5-15 dollars of pure profit because of licensing agreements.

  2. Phones and computers vs computers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I mean, come on. Microsoft isn't even "shipping" these devices in the first place.

    But since when does comparing apples and oranges to just oranges not make you a joke?

    1. Re: Phones and computers vs computers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To be fair, Microsoft has been making phone software far longer than Apple. Everyone forgets about it though, because it's been shit for 16+ years.

    2. Re: Phones and computers vs computers? by BLToday · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Wait, I would say MSFT had a decent mobile OS (relatively) from 2001-2007. I remember at the first iPhone (iOS 1), WM2005 had far more functionality (etc. GPS, apps, handwriting support). WM was better than PalmOS because I moved from the Palm m505 over to the HP iPaq 1910 and then to the GPS iPaq smartphone (don't remember the model number). iPhone didn't get gps support until the iPhone 3G.

      So MSFT only screwed up the last 10 years of mobile development. It's the tortoise and hare problem. MSFT exceeded features and crushed the existing competitions (Palm, Netscape, Lotus, WordPerfect) and then sat around getting pass by new competitions (iOS, Android, Chrome).

  3. Bullshit by The+Raven · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Predictions are not worth the toilet paper they are printed on.

    Apple has suffered from a lack of progress ever since Jobs died. They are treading water... it took them 5 years to update the MacBook, and what we got was lackluster. 'Predicting' that they will succeed and Microsoft will falter is dubious.

    The only real winner is Google, with Over 3/4 of the market for device operating systems.

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    1. Re:Bullshit by Cochonou · · Score: 2

      Technically, Mac OS X is not FULLY closed source.

  4. Absolutely right! by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 3, Funny

    The part they are leaving out is that everyone will also be installing Linux on those devices because 2017 is finally going to be the year of the Linux Desktop! ;)

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  5. Yeah, because their biz is in forced obsolesce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Apple has pretty much perfected the passive aggressive forced obsolescence thing.

    They don't actively force you to upgrade anything. They just make sure you can't downgrade any of their handhelds (unless you take it into the service center, then you're getting upgraded to the latest iOS whether you want it or not- good chance if you've got an older device, this will intentionally cripple it by installing a slower OS).

    All their software basically requires the latest greatest OS as soon as they're able to pull that off without pissing off the majority. Don't have the latest OS? Too bad for you, backwards compatibility hasn't been a thing since they dropped Rosetta support in 10.7. Then you run into stupid situations where your handheld doesn't want to sync with iTunes because iTunes is too old (even though all this shit should be standardized to the point that it doesn't matter), and you can't upgrade iTunes because that requires a new version of the OS, but the new version of the OS has fairly serious quirks on your current hardware... etc, etc, etc.

    The hilarious thing is that most of the people I know who have money to spend... Basically just throw their hands up in the air, and run out and buy all new stuff. Which works for 2-3 years, until all the Apple software changes enough that things stop working again, and then they just do the exact same thing.

    Meanwhile, Windows 10 will run on a... what, 10 year old computer? It's no wonder they're not selling more devices than Apple.

    1. Re:Yeah, because their biz is in forced obsolesce by David_Hart · · Score: 2

      if you buy an apple gadget it will be supported with apple software for at least 4 years. With 3rd party softwares even longer. My 5 year old desktop (ok now it's 6, also it's an ubuntu AFS server for my apple stuffs) can't install win10. Long gone are the times when you could install m$ software on old hw...
      Plus if as an IT tech guy you can't buy new gadgets every 4 years then change jobs. Pass down old stuffs to kids. Or to some elderly neighbors.

      Windows 10 will install perfectly fine on almost any 5/6 year old desktop. My Dad has two generations of my old desktops and they are 7 and 10 years old and they run Windows 10 just fine. Granted, both were upgrades from Windows 7, but it proves that Windows 10 will run on older hardware just fine.

      For some drivers, you may have to install the Windows NT/2K versions (i.e. turn off driver Signature Verification) and you may have to go through the process of loading them as part of the installation as it may not have them on the installation CD. But it works. You just need to do a bit of research and download the necessary drivers for the installation.

  6. Re:Number of fucks given: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yes yes, you are a very special snowflake who needs special computers.

  7. No Need to Exaggeate by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 3, Informative

    Apple has suffered from a lack of progress ever since Jobs died. They are treading water... it took them 5 years to update the MacBook, and what we got was lackluster.

    Not entirely correct. After Jobs died they had a year or two of progress before it petered out and it only took they 1.5 years to update the MacBook - but what we got was over expensive crap, not just lacklustre. It is the Mac itself, specifically the Mac Pro, which they have not updated for ~4 years and which they still attempt to sell for full price which is appalling.

    It is hard to see how this prediction will come true unless there is a surge in iOS devices because at the moment Apple have no mac machines which can compete with PCs and MS is now clearly out innovating them with its surface line. It's bad enough that my next laptop will be the new Dell XPS 15 - the CPU and GPU are both better than the new MacBook pros, it has both USB-C and USB-A (see Apple you can put both on a laptop), the keyboard actually moves, the entire screen is touch-based and it costs $1,000 less. I can't see how Apple will grow with competition like this. macOS may be better then Windows 10 but Windows 10 has improved enormously and you can always use Linux if you need to.

  8. Re:Everyone is building their walled garden by lucm · · Score: 2

    I believe Microsoft is aware that the device war is lost, they're just milking it while it lasts. But that doesn't mean they stopped innovating; for instance, 5 years ago their cloud offering was a half-baked web Office and a retarded ASP.Net hosting service; now you can run Kafka queues, execute Hadoop jobs or get real-time speech-to-text services.

    Meanwhile Apple innovation is forcing their customers to buy bluetooth headphones and adding emojis in the chat app.

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