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Richard Stallman Acknowledges Libreboot Is No Longer A Part of GNU (gnu.org)

Libreboot became an official GNU project in May. Now an anonymous Slashdot reader writes: Richard Stallman has officially announced that Libreboot is no longer a GNU package. The maintainer of Libreboot had tried to leave the GNU project in September 2016, but the departure was not acknowledged until January 2017. Libreboot is a replacement for proprietary BIOS systems, effectively a distribution of coreboot without any binary blobs and adding an automated build/install process.
In the post titled "Goodbye to GNU Libreboot," Stallman wrote that "When a package's maintainer steps down, that doesn't by itself break the relationship between GNU and the package. If it is left without a maintainer but is still useful, the GNU Project will usually look for new maintainers to work on it. However, we can instead drop ties with the package, if that seems the right thing to do.

"A few months ago, the maintainer of GNU Libreboot decided not to work on Libreboot for the GNU Project any more. That was her decision to make. She also asserted that Libreboot was no longer a GNU package -- something she could not unilaterally do. The GNU Project had to decide what to do in regard to Libreboot. We have decided to go along with the former GNU maintainer's wishes in this case, for a combination of reasons: (1) it had not been a GNU package for very long, (2) she was the developer who had originally made it a GNU package, and (3) there were no major developers who wanted to continue developing Libreboot under GNU auspices."

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  1. Re:How to get it in future? Where is it lodged? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Um - https://libreboot.org/

    Also there is more information as to why libreboot left the GNU. From their site - 'Libreboot left GNU on 2016-09-15, in protest of transgender discrimination at the FSF'.

    Not surprising.

    FSF is pretty close-minded - "my way is always right!"

    It even includes technical issues, too. Glibc fork() is not async-signal-safe per POSIX? Even though BSD and Solaris and AIX have no problem making fork() asynch-signal-safe, GNU folks go with "WONTFIX" and try to lobby to water down the POSIX standard because it sets too high a bar for them.

  2. Re:How to get it in future? Where is it lodged? by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Update: It seems this is why Libreboot's maintainers were not pleased with GNU: https://libreboot.org/gnu/

    Disclosure: this story is the first time I have heard of this issue.

    Although the link points to libreboot's side of this, it still is an eye-opener. TL/DR: the FSF fired a transgender employee on discriminatory grounds, but libreboot unintentionally outed the employee in the first place.

    It sounds to me that there are no saints on either side of this issue, but FSF is far more in the wrong than libreboot.

    If anyone deserves sympathy here, it's the transgender employee who now faces an uphill battle to reboot their career (pardon the pun.)

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  3. Re:wat by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1, Interesting

    If you had bothered to google "EMACS virgins" you might have understood what she was talking about.

    Long story short, RMS gave a keynote speech where he described women who had never used EMACS as virgins, and said it was the sacred duty of male members of the Church of EMACS to "relieve them of their virginity".

    I think it's a bad joke, poorly judged, and based on stereotypes that are harmful. You can decide if mentioning it now is helpful or not... Rowe mentions it as evidence that RMS and the FSF don't seem to be aware of some of the issues LGBT people face, or even what many consider fairly basic issues around using sexual jokes in a keynote speech at a conference.

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  4. Re:How to get it in future? Where is it lodged? by _KiTA_ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Um - https://libreboot.org/

    Also there is more information as to why libreboot left the GNU. From their site - 'Libreboot left GNU on 2016-09-15, in protest of transgender discrimination at the FSF'.

    Having read it... That's... an interesting interpretation of events. You'll note the complete lack of evidence in it? That's important.

    Here's what actually happened, based on what evidence I could find. Leah Woods is a SJW who had a fit because of some made up bullshit that boils down, like all made up SJW bullshit, to "Open Source is a meritocracy, but we still want special treatment."

    Here's a well sourced discussion on it on Kotaku In Action, the GamerGate reddit board:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Kotak...

    And some discussion over on reddit's linux board:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/linux...

    Basically, Leah Rowe had a fit because the FSF parted ways with a transgendered employee.

    Leah makes the unfounded claim that the FSF did this because the person has a mental illness (gender dysphoria / gender identity disorder), because someone wrote criticism of said person with mental illness which looked bad on the FSF, etc. She provides no evidence of these VERY specific claims.
    http://archive.is/iXIbc

    The FSF make a statement on 9/16 pointing out that they have a strong anti-harassment and anti-discrimination policies, as well as a so called "safe space policy" at FSF events. In other words, they have already capitulated to all the standard Regressive Leftist demands. They deny the accusation and say the person with mental illness was terminated for other reasons.
    https://archive.is/HGLMa

    Leah specifically follows up this claim here, changing her claim to a different claim that two FSF employees were "transphobic" and "bullying" this mentally ill developer. She namedrops these two people, but refuses to namedrop the supposed victim, believing they deserve protection from any criticism or questioning of these claims. Note that this apparently does not apply to the two men she is accusing without any form of evidence of unprofessional and possibly illegal behavior.
    https://archive.is/7cXtw#selec...

    She follows this up with more increasingly unhinged spam and unfounded accusations. She ignores, bans, or curses out people requesting evidence or disputing her one woman lynch mob. She posts an unhinged screed on her website showing she has little to no understanding of open source, all while repeating the same unfounded claims, as well as claiming martyrdom on her part.
    https://archive.is/JmiTG

    It's important to note that libreroot is a fork of Coreboot and being part of the GNU project means it was posted under an open source license. Which means someone could easily fork it again and put it BACK in the GNU project. Of course, proving she doesn't understand the first thing about open source, she specifically wants people NOT to do that. I suggest the name cisLibreBoot, because it seems the most amusing name possible.

    Fortunately, the GNU mailing list appears to basically shut her histrionics down fairly quickly:
    http://archive.is/di974

    In addition, it's important to realize the unhinged professional victimhood martyrdom ravings of Leah Rowe, which are REMARKABLY similar to other social justice activists such as Brianna Wu or Nora Reed, don't actually represent the Libreroot community. See, it turns out, what she did was steal access to the main repository and lock out everyone else, all while making her unhinged, evidence-free stat

  5. Re:How to get it in future? Where is it lodged? by _KiTA_ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You calling a transgendered person "mentally ill" sounds no different than the bigots who called homosexuals "mentally ill"
    How is your bigotry any more justified than theirs, bigot?

    I'm not calling transgendered people mentally ill. I'm saying Gender Dysphoria is a mental illness.

    http://www.ifge.org/302.85_Gen...
    http://www.theravive.com/thera...
    http://dsm.psychiatryonline.or...
    https://www.psychiatry.org/pat...

    And I'm right. Sorry, but it's true.

    Now, since being Transgender requires Gender Dysphoria -- so called Tumbrina "TransTrenders" aren't transgender, they're attention seeking children -- it's an unpopular, but correct, statement to say that they are people with a mental illness receiving treatment.

    Fortunately for me, an "unpopular" opinion is not bigotry, no matter what the authoritarian regressive post-modernists that have taken over the left in the west think.

  6. Re:How to get it in future? Where is it lodged? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It used to be, until members of the psychological/psychiatric profession were badgered into redefining the illness as being not an illness.

    That of course leads us to the greater question of, "What is a mental illness, anyway? And why?". If people can be functional in society, ought we define something as an illness? Maybe, maybe not.

    And how far must we go to accommodate someone's "idiosyncracies" before we ourselves are the ones who are mad?

  7. Re:TRANSGENDER discrimination? By FSF? by rtb61 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From this thread, https://warosu.org/g/thread/56..., it seems emotions and personalities were more at play than anything else. Gees, geeks and nerds, can not you keep you gaming to, well, actual computer games and cut back on the social and emotional gaming. Yes, a lot of you carry over emotional and social scars from having to deal with jock strap douche bags and narcissist cheer leaders who were extremely jealous and vindictive against people who can actually think, don't repeat their behaviour against your own, chill the fuck out. You win together not against each other or alone.

    When it comes to gender choices or mutual masturbation activities, keep it to yourself, people are getting really, really sick of hearing about it and fuck the US Democrats for pumping up that issue as a political distraction so people will stupidly ignore economic policy. Keep pushing this nonsense and you will get some real angry majority kick back.

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  8. Re: How to get it in future? Where is it lodged? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    I wish. Unfortunately, the ugly truth is that there are people out there who think it's OK to claim they've been victimized when they have not. Most do it for the attention, but others decide to go one step further and set up a Paypal account to take donations. Those that collect money after crying wolf are, I believe by definition, professional victims. Or at least professional liars.

    ...

    And if you think I'm making things up, then it's clearly only because you hate me because I'm XYZ gender/race/orientation, and I'll make it a top priority to get everyone I know to dox you, shame you, and generally make your life hell. Everyone else: don't forget to donate, or you're just as bad as him!