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Google Abandons Their Google Hangouts API (techcrunch.com)

"Once again we're seeing the hazards of developing using a third party service API," writes Slashdot reader BarbaraHudson, reporting that Google "will be discontinuing support for the Google Hangouts API going forward... Google Hangouts is now so insignificant that the cancellation didn't even rate an official blog post. As reported by TechCrunch, "just an updated FAQ and email notification to developers active on the API, forwarded to us by one of these devs." TechCrunch writes: As Google pushes Duo as its consumer video chat app and relegates Hangouts to the enterprise, it's dropping the flexibility to build these kinds of experiences. The email explains... "We understand this will impact developers who have invested in our platform. We have carefully considered this change and believe that it allows us to give our users a more targeted Hangouts desktop video experience going forward."
TechCrunch calls the move "a casualty of Google's fragmented messaging app strategy and the neglect of Hangouts itself." While some apps will continue working -- for example, integration with Slack -- their API's FAQ now ends with a reminder that "Users of apps will see a notice in the call letting them know that the app they're using will no longer work after April 25th."

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  1. "hazards of developing using a third party" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These are the hazards of relying on Google for anything. They throw stuff away constantly.

  2. It happens, but way too commonly with google by Anrego · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These days it's hard to write anything non-trivial without relying on something that will be hard to replace if it goes away, that's just a reality of modern software design. You can minimize the risk with abstraction and try to rely on open standards with multiple implementations, but at some point you have to just accept the occasional puzzle piece change as part of the business and move on.

    That said, google pulls this shit all the time. Using a google API or service for anything critical would imo be a huge risk given their long history of suddenly killing things.

    1. Re:It happens, but way too commonly with google by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 5, Insightful

      While I don't expect Google to realistically support every failed project forever, every product or service they kill reinforces the notion that "the cloud" simply means "services you rent which can be arbitrarily shut down at any time by the company who actually owns them."

      There's nothing wrong with cloud-based services, as long as you go in with your eyes wide open to both the upsides AND the downsides. And be extra wary if you're not paying for a service and don't see an obvious revenue model.

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    2. Re:It happens, but way too commonly with google by Anrego · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I've been involved in refactoring lots of software to replace dependencies on dead or obsolete tools and libraries, some of which were very expensive. Open source projects stagnate and die, but businesses go bankrupt, shift directions and discontinue products if they become unprofitable.

      Determining the stability of a product and the impact to your business if it goes away is (or should be) part of the business decision process.

    3. Re: It happens, but way too commonly with google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The cloud is the deathknell of everything a personal computer used to stand for. We used to have our own files and programs, we were the masters. Now we're merely the tenants, paying rent every so often, our devices and apps beleaguered by ads and other bullshit.

      RMS had it correct, but idk if he predicted our trojan horses wouldn't exactly come from the Microsofts of the world initially... but from hardware makers concocting a new type of computer (smartphone) which in turn inflicted the rest of the market with this shit mentality.

    4. Re: It happens, but way too commonly with google by dnaumov · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Turns out most people out there DO NOT WANT a "personal computer" in the way you and I understand it. They consider it too much trouble and effort.

  3. Once again by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Once again Google fucks people over, people who've spent a lot of time and energy building shit to work with their system.

    The motto of this story is, "Work with Google and you'll get abandoned whenever they feel like it."

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    1. Re:Once again by thegarbz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Or maybe Google is closing something that is used so little that most developers who have put time and effort into it have written it off as a failure long ago.

  4. Re:Why do they keep doing this? by slyborg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is this still complex for people after 15+ years? Google's business is selling ads to an audience made captive by "free" email and search (I include Maps here) paid for by the privacy of that audience. The rest of what they do is wanking because they have more money than they know what to do with, the incremental info they get from most of these projects is nil. Google "strategy" these days is to make an inferior copy of other people's ideas, try to leverage their captive audience by strong-arming them and then failing anyway. People have been ripping on Apple lately, but Google is in exactly the same "no-innovation" spiral. They are ripe for disruption, it is only a matter of time.

  5. Down with big business... lingo by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Going forward"? What's wrong with "from now on", or "soon", or simply leaving that little bit off completely since it conveys zero information? I know business people like the term "going forward" because it sounds both positive and purposeful, but it's such an ugly turn of phrase when tacked on to the end of a statement like that.

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