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LG Threatens To Put Wi-Fi in Every Appliance it Introduces in 2017 (arstechnica.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: During the company's CES press conference today, LG marketing VP David VanderWaal says that "starting this year" all of LG's home appliances will feature "advanced Wi-Fi connectivity." One of the flagship appliances that will make good on this promise is the Smart Instaview Refrigerator, a webOS-powered Internet-connected fridge that among other things supports integration with Amazon's Alexa service.
For making my shopping easier. With all the choices out there, I can just cross LG off the list of anything I'd own.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
The "threat" comes when somebody with an exploit kit and a laptop drives by and turns your fridge into a ransomeware tool that spoils your food and posts naked photos of you getting up for a midnight snack on reddit.
Yes, it is a threat - if a device can be connected to, it's exposed to compromise.
I want my fridge to keep my milk, meet and liquor cold. I do not want it to tell me anything, ever. I do not want it to engage with me, to use my bandwidth, to report back to LG on my shopping habits, to fill out a grocery list, or do ANYTHING except serve as a platform to chill the things I desire chilled.
Bad enough that pacemakers are getting hacked and hospital networks are getting shut down - I have zero interest in furthering this stupid fucking push to make everything available for someone else to exploit.
I'm already tech support for my entire family. Now I get to be tech support for their appliances. Every Thanksgiving is going to be "oh, since you're here, can you fix the wifi on the fridge?"
We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
I think what the science and tech community is complaining about is feature creep. I don't need my toaster to have bluetooth to tell me the toast is done. I need the toaster to last a year or three.
I don't want a fridge that can phone home to the masters and have them pester me about a 'service tech' should come out and vacuum the coils. I can do that myself.
Just because we can put a wifi card in it doesn't mean we should. If you really wanted to make sure your fridge was at a safe temp... you can do that already with an Arduino and a sensor. No vendor lock-in... no calling home to daddy corporation with your personal habits (shopping and usage).
Give me an appliance that are built to last for at least a decade.... and I'll start letting you throw Wifi in it.
I wonder if have any idea in their deranged mind to *lower* the cost of the fridge, but require a monthly subscription for it to work.
Which would open up an opportunity for black-marked "DRM-Removed" household appliances....... "Download 12 month of refrigeration from piratebay!!!"
It's also fairly likely that these appliances will be "promiscuous" with regard to trying to find WIFI to connect to, because the average consumer can't be counted-on to be tech-savvy enough to set it up properly, and the average appliance installer probably can't either. Even if someone never configures the WIFI, the fridge will probably be configured, out of the box, to look for WIFI, so anyone within range that sets themselves up as a hotspot will become a perferred network for the appliance.
I'm not 100% against the idea of appliances with some kind of network communication, but I am very much against it with the current IoT mindset, which revolves around people in positions of authority that do not understand the ramifications of the threat. Unfortunately I do not see this changing until these manufacturers lose their shirts over compromised applicances.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
The thought is that embedded wifi will only ever be a security risk, and could never possibly be of use to anyone.
No, the thought is that embedded WiFi is a security risk and this risk outweighs the benefits. A typical fridge lasts, what, 10-20 years? Do you think LG is going to be back-porting network stack security fixes to Linux for 20 years? Do you think that, even if they wanted to, they will make enough profit on fridges to be able to afford to? Over the last 3-4 years, I've lost track of the number of vulnerabilities that enable anyone who can send a packet to the stack to gain kernel-level privilege. Will LG be fixing all of these for the lifetime of the fridge?
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The Marketing Division of LG is a bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.
Why wait for a revolution, I say we hunt 'em down now and fix this fucking problem before it gets out of hand.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
The Marketing Division of LG is a bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.
Why wait for a revolution, I say we hunt 'em down now and fix this fucking problem before it gets out of hand.
Or alternatively you could not buy a fucking internet fridge.
Which is admittedly less macho than taking out the Board of Directors with an M134 mini gun.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
Traditional fridges, with just a compressor and ice box up top, typically go a lot longer. The beer fridge in my shed was bought second hand 30 years ago.
Modern fridges, with all their complex internal fans and defrost cycles go about 15 years at best. My ice maker is dead, and I just pulled apart some of the internal plumbing to fix a fan which would be beyond most people and not worth the cost of a repair man.
New fridges with WiFi will go until they die from a bad automated software update. I'd say 8 years. But that will be OK because you will pay by the year that you use it, all controlled by the WiFi.
It is part of advancing technology.