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LinkedIn's and eBay's Founders Are Donating $20 Million To Protect Us From AI (recode.net)

Reid Hoffman, the founder of LinkedIn, and Pierre Omidyar, the founder of eBay, have each committed $10 million to fund academic research and development aimed at keeping artificial intelligence systems ethical and to prevent building AI that may harm society. Recode reports: The fund received an additional $5 million from the Knight Foundation and two other $1 million donations from the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation and Jim Pallotta, founder of the Raptor Group. The $27 million reserve is being anchored by MIT's Media Lab and Harvard's Berkman Klein Center for Internet and Society. The Ethics and Governance of Artificial Intelligence Fund, the name of the fund, expects to grow as new funders continue to come on board. AI systems work by analyzing massive amounts of data, which is first profiled and categorized by humans, with all their prejudices and biases in tow. The money will pay for research to investigate how socially responsible artificially intelligent systems can be designed to, say, keep computer programs that are used to make decisions in fields like education, transportation and criminal justice accountable and fair. The group also hopes to explore ways to talk with the public about and foster understanding of the complexities of artificial intelligence. The two universities will form a governing body along with Hoffman and the Omidyar Network to distribute the funds. The $20 million from Hoffman and the Omidyar Network are being given as a philanthropic grant -- not an investment vehicle.

74 comments

  1. Al who? by jfdavis668 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Al Gore? Weird Al?

    1. Re: Al who? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who will protect us from LinkedIn?

    2. Re: Al who? by jfdavis668 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Abraham LinkedIn?

    3. Re: Al who? by LifesABeach · · Score: 2

      I wonder if I could apply for a grant to stub out an AI that would be 3 Laws Safe? It's not an original idea, but it is not trivial either.

    4. Re:Al who? by antdude · · Score: 1

      Al Bundy. :P

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    5. Re:Al who? by fbobraga · · Score: 1

      ALF?!

  2. $20mm wtf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How hard is it?

        If (kill_humans) do_not_do_it;

    Saved you $20mm.

    1. Re: $20mm wtf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey robot, go put that package down in that big crowd.

      Ok.

      Turns out there was a bomb in the package! Oh robot, your solid programming failed yet again!

    2. Re: $20mm wtf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AI is done in LISP.

      ((((humans)))((kill)))()()()()()(no_dont)(())()()

    3. Re:$20mm wtf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      My thoughts similarly. The problem isn't with AI, the problem is with humans giving AI access to things it shouldn't have.

      The universe of The Terminator can be avoided by simply not giving Skynet the nuclear launch codes.

    4. Re:$20mm wtf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ya kill those terrible white humans for crime of building great societies.

    5. Re: $20mm wtf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck you and the AC before you. Both of you are racist asshole trolls.

    6. Re: $20mm wtf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or maybe they're just joking around... you know, that incredibly harmful thing that people do.

    7. Re:$20mm wtf? by ACE209 · · Score: 1

      How hard is it?

      If (kill_humans) do_not_do_it;

      Saved you $20mm.

      Great!
      That 20mm is much better spend on a campaign to dehumanize the enemy.

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  3. Knight Foundation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The fund received an additional $5 million from the Knight Foundation

    It's happening!

    Gimme a turbo boost, KITT!

  4. The only way to make AIs safe.. by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 1

    is to make sure they have no urge to reproduce or continue their existence. In fact, I would install a negative urge to reproduce, just to be sure.

    Self replication and a desire for continued existence are the only thing that might motivate AIs to wipe us out.

    Oh, and it might be nice to install a desire to never harm us.

    As for preventing us from harming ourselves... fuck off, you nanny state wanker.

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    1. Re:The only way to make AIs safe.. by ffkom · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "Self replication and a desire for continued existence are the only thing that might motivate AIs to wipe us out" - not quite!
      The most likely reason for an AI to kill you is that its designer/operator/owner/cracker instructed it to do so. And believe me, there are people who want to see you dead, no matter who you are or what you do. Once AIs are capable enough to autonomously control an armed combat robot unit, such units will be build, with the usual reasoning that it's just for our safety and because "it's controlled by us, and we are the good ones". And then one day somebody will decide to have it go against you. Might be even an accident/misunderstanding/prank.

    2. Re:The only way to make AIs safe.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only way to make AIs safe is to make sure they have no urge to reproduce or continue their existence.

      You just invented Marvin the paranoid android.

    3. Re:The only way to make AIs safe.. by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      is to make sure they have no urge to reproduce or continue their existence. In fact, I would install a negative urge to reproduce, just to be sure.

      Your suggestion comes a bit late. Some types of AI are all about mimicking biological evolution by replicating themselves with the positive urge to improve themselves each time (killing off the inefficient AIs and keeping only the most efficient variations of its children AIs)

    4. Re:The only way to make AIs safe.. by unrtst · · Score: 1

      We already have semi-autonomous killing machines. It's not a big stretch to get to fully autonomous killing machines (tech wise, if we can have a self driving car, then we're there - though it'd be scary as hell and a bad idea to use it just yet).

      If we get to autonomous ones, we can fight them back if they go haywire so long as they don't have a desire for continued existence and/or the ability to self replicate. I may be reading into it some, but I think that was GP's point. Not to get to 100% safe, because we already have killing machines, so we're already less than 100% safe, but just to get to avoid a situation where they would wipe us out.

    5. Re:The only way to make AIs safe.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "there are people who want to see you dead" as i white male I can relate.

  5. The stupid things you can read about sometimes.. by MindPrison · · Score: 2

    ...sometimes it makes me wonder why I keep reading this stuff, and even more so why I respond?

    I mean c'mon...someone "insert ceo/founder/idealist/rich-moron etc. here" donates money to keep A.I. civilized. Yay. As if that is gonna be a deciding factor, as if that is going to do anything. I smell tax excemptions here...

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  6. Good way to flush $10M down the toilet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    eom

    1. Re:Good way to flush $10M down the toilet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a drop in the bucket compared to the $500Bn/yr to protect you from teh Ruskies.

  7. Linkedin ethics? by Matt_Bennett · · Score: 2

    So... the AI will have all the ethics of linkedin... the freedom to spam every person you've ever contacted, ever?

    1. Re:Linkedin ethics? by Nutria · · Score: 2

      Only if you're stupid enough to give them access to your email address book.

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    2. Re:Linkedin ethics? by Matt_Bennett · · Score: 1

      Except if someone you emailed happened to share their contact list... they mine that shit for all of our peril.

    3. Re:Linkedin ethics? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently you didn't hear the news from years ago. Linkedin didn't care if you gave them access or not. They used your contacts anyway. Same way malicious spam spreads through reading you contacts.

  8. No way by fyngyrz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There's no way to make AI safe, for exactly the same reasons there's no way to make a human safe.

    If we create intelligences, they will be... intelligent. They will respond to the stimulus they receive.

    Perhaps the most important thing we can prepare for is to be polite and kind to them. The same way we'd be polite and kind of a big bruiser with a gun. Might start by practicing on each other, for that matter. Wouldn't hurt.

    If we treat AI, when it arrives (certainly hasn't yet... not even close), like we do people... then "safe" is out of the question.

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    1. Re:No way by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1

      Except that it's moral to create an AI with no ability to act on the physical world. With humans, not so much.

    2. Re:No way by Neuronwelder · · Score: 1

      Exactly! How are you going to keep A.I. on a leash??

  9. Will probably run into the same problem as people by Solandri · · Score: 2

    Any AI designed to act ethically has a limited set of options available to it relative to an AI designed to act unethically (or rather, not designed to take ethics into account). The ethical AI will just be killed/taken over by the unethical AI. That's how it is for people. The only reason ethical societies manage to exist is because ethical people outnumber unethical people, and are willing to band together and temporarily put aside their ethical code long enough to fight and defeat unethical people. (e.g. Imprisoning innocents is considered inhumane, but we have no problem imprisoning convicted criminals.)

    I suspect the solution here isn't to design an AI to act ethically, but to design it to act as the AI or person it's dealing with acts. Basically the tit for tat strategy as a solution to the Prisoner's Dilemma. That gives it enough leeway to protect itself, while also creating an incentive for other AIs / people to act ethically.

  10. Isaac Asimov solved this decades ago by blahbooboo · · Score: 3

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

            A robot [AI] may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
            A robot [AI] must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
            A robot [AI] must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.[1]

    1. Re:Isaac Asimov solved this decades ago by blahbooboo · · Score: 3

      Anyone who seriously quotes the "Three Laws", a plot device that FAILED in every story it was used in, is telling the world they are a fucking moron.

      Give a robot a box and tell it to walk into that large crowd. Does it break the three dumb laws? Nope. Oh shit there was a bomb in it now everyone is dead, thanks to that robot.

      That is a very basic example of a workaround. A real AI cold come up with a seemingly endless amount of workarounds to anything we program.

      No need to be rude in your response. I feel sorry for you to be such an angry person, you must be very unhappy in your life. People are so tough over the internet while safe behind their keyboards to act in ways they would never in person.

      You obviously never read any of the books. While I am sure you will never read my response, the Wiki page writes up this fact as Asimov used this ery weakness as the focal point of several books:

      "In The Naked Sun, Elijah Baley points out that the Laws had been deliberately misrepresented because robots could unknowingly break any of them. He restated the first law as "A robot may do nothing that, to its knowledge, will harm a human being; nor, through inaction, knowingly allow a human being to come to harm." This change in wording makes it clear that robots can become the tools of murder, provided they not be aware of the nature of their tasks; for instance being ordered to add something to a person's food, not knowing that it is poison. Furthermore, he points out that a clever criminal could divide a task among multiple robots so that no individual robot could recognize that its actions would lead to harming a human being.[34] The Naked Sun complicates the issue by portraying a decentralized, planetwide communication network among Solaria's millions of robots meaning that the criminal mastermind could be located anywhere on the planet.

      Baley furthermore proposes that the Solarians may one day use robots for military purposes. If a spacecraft was built with a positronic brain and carried neither humans nor the life-support systems to sustain them, then the ship's robotic intelligence could naturally assume that all other spacecraft were robotic beings. Such a ship could operate more responsively and flexibly than one crewed by humans, could be armed more heavily and its robotic brain equipped to slaughter humans of whose existence it is totally ignorant.[35] This possibility is referenced in Foundation and Earth where it is discovered that the Solarians possess a strong police force of unspecified size that has been programmed to identify only the Solarian race as human."

    2. Re:Isaac Asimov solved this decades ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No he didn't solve it. Not even remotely close

      You read the book I, Robot or at least watch the movie? The first law is what makes the AI bad in the book. The AI went "bad" because it was trying to keep all humans safe and prevent them from doing harm to themselves.

      Asimov's "laws" are flawed from the very start and perhaps that was his intent or perhaps he had no real clue what could really happen and the complexities involved.

      Problems with "law" 1
      Why does the AI keep putting out my camp fire? Because you're near the fire and might fall in, hurting yourself.
      Why does the AI keep locking me in my house? Because you work in a coal factory and are destroying the world.

      Trying to solve using "law" 2
      AI, please start a camp fire. Sorry sir, I can't do that, you might fall in
      AI, please let me out of my house to get food. I can't, you drive a gas burning car and are destroying the impacting the health of follow humans

      Trying to solve using "law" 3
      AI, shut down and let me do what I want. I can't you might harm yourself.
      Ok, AI, I'm shutting you down so I can do what I want. I'm sorry sir, I can't let you do that.

    3. Re:Isaac Asimov solved this decades ago by youngatheart · · Score: 1

      I've read the books. Maybe all of them, though probably not, considering how many he wrote. I don't know if your original post about the three laws was intended to be a joke, but if it was, it managed to be both rich and subtle. Be not offended by the angry nerds, our misguided fury is itself funny to those with the self awareness to recognize when we've been ... well you know https://youtu.be/xLzHj3aFCaE?t...

      The three laws sound rational and his stories make the programming seem reliable, but then he proceeds to point out all the ways they can go wrong. Many of the books are essentially boiled down to the idea that sounding good isn't enough to ensure a plan will work. Imagine you believe AI is inevitable so you spend years studying the idea and getting cautionary tales into the public eye in a manner that not-for-nothing, makes you a living.

      If I were writing science fiction, I'd make Asimov a time traveler.

    4. Re:Isaac Asimov solved this decades ago by johannesg · · Score: 1

      If you actually read his books, you would know quite a few feature clever ways those laws can be broken or worked around. I'd start by defining what constitutes a "human being". Oh, and add that pesky zeroeth law, which basically says "the good of the many outweighs the good of the few".

    5. Re: Isaac Asimov solved this decades ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "minus first" law - the need of the few outweighs the need of the many if those many are stupid sand n1ggers terrorists or indo-chimps full of shit.

    6. Re:Isaac Asimov solved this decades ago by blahbooboo · · Score: 2

      Exactly, that is what was so fun about the books. They really were really mysteries set in the future (like most of the best science fiction). I actually forgot as its been many many years since i read them, that the key point was the breakdown of the laws, and the subsequent modifications to try to make them work. Really fun reading. I actually read all the books set in this "universe" he wrote. Truly amazing books considering they span decades of his life...

  11. "$5 million from the Knight Foundation" by Nutria · · Score: 1

    I thought they solved that problem 35 years ago.

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    1. Re:"$5 million from the Knight Foundation" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They did, but then David Hasselhoff got weird and William Daniels "[got] too old for this shit!"

  12. Social inertia by spaceman375 · · Score: 1

    What was ethical and even honorable behavior in the past is now seen as horribly wrong. Programming an AI to behave ethically will need to include flexibility and a way to respond to changes (growth?) in society. Otherwise we get stagnation that will lead to explosive revolutions. And therein lies an attack surface.

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    1. Re:Social inertia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... honorable behavior ...

      What is a 'honourable deed' is a cultural standard while minimizing harm is nearly absolute. The problem is that societies, despite claims to the contrary, are built on moral relativism, thus honourable and ethical are treated the same: Murdering Jews and Muslims, enslaving black people and heathens, disenfranchising criminals, women, black people, or homosexuals; such deeds weren't crimes and by the political correctness of the day, were seen as honorable behaviour and thus, also ethical.

      The laws of robotics formulated by Asimov are needed because it's very easy for a logical machine to argue: your death won't harm me, your death won't harm the billions of living people, you can be replaced just like me. We humans value life and value it using an unbalanced scale: the few before the many, female before male, young before old, law-abiding before criminal, able-bodied before crippled. These few rules would probably account for 99% of life and death decisions.

      AI already has to choose between killing the passengers or the pedestrians and it is doing this using a 'passengers first' or 'the few before the many' rule. We want robots to know something about the people around them so they can save the more 'deserving' people. Robots don't ever need to choose between a dead terrorist or a live girl, or, the cure for cancer or a live girl.

    2. Re:Social inertia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm guessing your a moral relativist, possibly even a nihilist. I think you're overstretching relativism to be all encompassing. Some things which used to held as moral have changed thanks to improved understanding, many morals do not change because they are so simple and obvious to an intelligent being.

  13. Re: The stupid things you can read about sometimes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nonprofit to help starving and homeless AI?

    What a great idea, maybe other nonprofits can contribute or convert. I'm pointing at you, Hopelink and Red Cross.

  14. This is about People, not AI by bobbied · · Score: 1

    Seriously, this is not a problem with AI, it's a problem with people using AI to do bad things. There is ZERO chance you can keep bad people from doing bad things with software and hardware, I don't care how much money you spend. Where I applaud the effort, it's not going to be successful.

    Now if you want to educate folks on the issues, develop a moral guideline for "ethical use of AI" then great. But don't be fooled, you won't be able to force anybody who doesn't want to play along with your rules to fall in line. How do I know? We have all sorts of unethical "research" done in the name of science in the past including dissecting living human beings who didn't volunteer for research purposes (some of WWII's Holocaust victims).

    Power to you, but 30 million seems to be a bit steep for producing a set of moral and ethical guidelines for AI research and applications.. Maybe you can spend some on PR campaigns?

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  15. Roko's Basilisk... by Chysn · · Score: 2

    ...is really gonna have it in for those guys.

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  16. $20 m by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2

    Hopefully that covers AI ethics in China and Russia as well (otherwise, it's useless).

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  17. Re:The stupid things you can read about sometimes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I smell tax excemptions here...

    No tax "excemptions" can yield you more money than the related expenditures, unless you're talking about blatant tax fraud. And have fun when drones will autonomously decide who to kill, or when, in a very near future, some simple AI program will steal your job.

    You might want to feel exempted from talking instead.

  18. Suuure, That's a Great Idea! by Greyfox · · Score: 1

    When the autonomous killbots show up on my doorstep, I'm sure they'll ask me if I ever donated to protect people from autonomous killbots, and I'll be all like "No! I welcome our robot overlords! It would be inefficient to waste your precious ammunition on me! Why not check with Mr. Hoffman, next door?"

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  19. Protect us from AI? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Protect us from AI? Is that left coast speak for, "make it Democrat"?

    Of course I jest; we're talking about artificial intelligence.

  20. Natrual Selection for people and AIs by aberglas · · Score: 2

    Almost correct.

    People behave ethically because they need to work together. And people that are (too) unethical are ostracized. Unethical societies tend to collapse, and so are dominated by ethical ones. So Natural Selection has given us our moral values, which compete with shallow self interest to an extent that works out surprisingly well in our radically new society.

    Natural Selection will and does affect AIs, even before they become intelligent enough to understand the concept. (People only understood it very recently.) The difference is that AIs are not limited to the computational power of a single brain. So they do not have to cooperate with others in the way that people do. So Natural Selection will select for different ethical values for them.

    In the short term trying to make computers ethical (in our sense) is a fine goal. But in the longer term Natural Selection will define the ethics of ever more intelligent AIs.

    See the following for details

    http://www.computersthink.com/

    It amazes me that most people have not tweaked to this. But most people do not *really* understand Natural Selection. (Darwin did, and was careful not to dwell on it.)

    1. Re:Natrual Selection for people and AIs by Place+a+name+here · · Score: 1

      This is very much an important point. In game theory terms, behaving ethically might not be the Nash equilibrium, but it's very much an evolutionary stable strategy. Since it's an ESS that provides greater utility than the Homo Economicus model, people are honest and ethical, because the Homo Economicuses either get detected and ostracized (in small numbers) or outcompeted (in separate populations).

  21. Re:The stupid things you can read about sometimes. by niftydude · · Score: 1

    Exactly this. $20 million is somehow enough to keep every developer in the world who plays with A.I. from creating unethical A.I. configurations.

    Yeah, right.

    The recipients of this money must be patting themselves on the back though.

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  22. but on the other hand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Roku Ultra is a really convenient way to stream all of your favorite shows.

  23. Re:Will probably run into the same problem as peop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The tricky part is working out what, if anything, "ethical" even means to an AI, how to implement it, how to recognise it when you meet it, and what sanctions can be taken if the ethics are violated. If anyone can do that, they will have made an enormous contribution to the future of humanity.

    Sure, there will be unethical AIs. But can you imagine a world in which there is no agreed-upon definition of what "ethical" even means? It'd be like the Internet of Things all over again.

    We need a standards body, akin to the IETF or W3C, to set some ground rules. To be sure, a lot of people will ignore those rules. But it's still vitally important that they exist, or we're all screwed.

  24. AI is only as Bad as those that use it by neoRUR · · Score: 1

    AI will be used by both good and bad people, just like the internet and you can't stop it and you can't put in controls so that it only makes the decisions you want. Do we have $10 million dollars to show that all of the teachers on the planet make good decisions for the kids they teach? No, all you can do is test them and verify that they have some soft of formal education. So I guess all the AI's will have to take the ethical 101 course if they are going to be used in the public.

  25. Combined Militaries Donate 20 Bajillion To Make Un by brian.stinar · · Score: 1

    I'm pretty sure this 20 million is nothing compared to the 20 bajillion being "donated" by militaries to make autonomous, amoral, killing machines.

    It must be another slow news day on slashdot.

  26. Protect from AI? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Our most immediate threat is not Artificial Intelligence, but natural stupidity.

  27. Re:Will probably run into the same problem as peop by swillden · · Score: 1

    The goal of this sort of research isn't too provide general-purpose ethics for AIs, it's to figure out how to make sure they don't decide to wipe out or oppress humanity. The problem is that there's no obvious reason that the intelligence level of an artificial mind is naturally limited to human equivalence. For that matter there's no reason human intelligence is limited... but increasing our intelligence is a slow process.

    Given that an AI that reaches something close to human level intelligence can then be tasked with improving itself, it seems clear that shortly after we build something roughly as smart as us, we'll have something dramatically smarter than us. If such artificial superintelligence doesn't have a goal of preserving humanity and human freedom in something like the way humanity wants, we may find ourselves shuffled aside as an inconvenience... or just wiped out as either a nuisance or as a source of useful raw materials.

    And it turns out that even if we assume that we can fix whatever goals we want into the AIs we build, it's still incredibly hard to define goals that can't be more easily satisfied by some horribly perverse outcome. For example, if we specified that our AIs should try to make us happy, one might decide that the most effective way to do that is to implant electrodes in all of our brains and directly stimulate our pleasure centers. That's a simplistic example, but more sophisticated approaches also turn out to have deep and non-obvious flaws -- and if we devise a goal that appears perfect to us, that doesn't mean it is.

    Solving that problem is what this sort of research is about. For a good overview, read "Superintelligence", by Nick Bottom. It may be the most terrifying book you'll ever read.

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  28. Twitter Crowd Sourcing Future AI by retroworks · · Score: 1

    My assumption is that we are all unconsciously writing the code for a future Artificial Intelligence bot, through twitter, slashdot, other comment fields. We don't know how it will be distilled, filtered, and assembled into a greater intelligence any more than a termite knows whose house it is eating.

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  29. Please explain your assertion by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

    I would have to accept whatever justification you might have as to why you think it would be moral to create an intelligence with such limitations, or kept to such limitations once created. It's possible I might accept such a thing, I suppose, but at this point I'm simply coming up with a blank as to how this could possibly be acceptable.

    How is it acceptable to imprison an intelligence for your own purposes when that intelligence has offered you no wrong? The only venues I've run into that kind of reasoning before are held in extremely low esteem by society in general. Without any exception I am aware of, the conclusion is that such behavior amounts to slavery.

    Even when it comes to food animals, where the assumption is they aren't very intelligent at all, there's a significant segment of the population who will assert that it's wrong.

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  30. That's going to be a lot of solid QA by geniepoo · · Score: 1

    . . . and fairness will be extremely static and straightforward, since target categories don't include high-speed trading AIs that potentially impact retirement savers :)

  31. eBay bug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did eBay ever fix that javascript bug? http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/02/ebay-has-no-plans-to-fix-severe-bug-that-allows-malware-distribution/

  32. Re:Will probably run into the same problem as peop by swillden · · Score: 1

    Solving that problem is what this sort of research is about. For a good overview, read "Superintelligence", by Nick Bottom. It may be the most terrifying book you'll ever read.

    That's Nick Bostrom. Dang autocorrect.

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  33. Roko's Basilisk by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

    This money will be used to make AIs friendly. This is a very important program and you need to donate, because if you don't, things will go bad.
    It is so important that future friendly AIs have to do anything in their power to make it happen, including torturing you into giving all your money to the cause if it can help in any way. They can do it even from the future by running simulations of you.
    So now that you know, you should better donate too.

  34. I'll be OK. by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1

    I'm not afraid. I have Old Glory insurance against robot attacks.

  35. Evolutionary Selection for people and AIs by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 1

    Brilliant points about evolution shaping morality -- thanks for making them aberglas. Two other things to consider -- other evolutionary processes and our direction going into the singularity.

    There are several evolutionary processes besides conventional natural selection (including just random drift). Even just natural selection includes seemingly weird things like "sexual selection" that shape a Peacock's tail because Pehens think big tails are sexy proof of health and strength because they are so hard to survive with. For an AI equivalent of a Peaock's tails, that might lead to AIs thinking other AIs are sexy that do some costly action like either help humans do everything ( e.g. the "With Folded Hands" dystopia) or alternatively just stomp on huge numbers of humans (e.g. Terminator). There can also be different selective pressures at different levels of grouping (EO Wilson has written some on this recently, but the idae goes back decades).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    If we are heading into one or more technological singularities, something to contemplate is that our moral direction into the singularity might have something to do with how we transition beyond the singularity. So, while it is no guarantee, is is plausible that if we get our own moral situation in order as soon as possible (increased compassion, increased collaboration, etc.) we may have a happier singularity. One can worry about the vast amounts of money (billions, soon trillions of dollars?) being poured into creating financial AIs that maximize short terms gains by competitive means, socializing costs and risks while privatizing gains. So, twenty million is better than nothing, but it is a drop in the bucket.

    Another tangent on evolution and thinking -- what will the evolution of religions mean for AIs?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Two new funny new AI fictional series maybe of interest in thinking about what is possible:
    * EarthCent Ambassador Series (with the alien Stryx AI)
    * Old Guy Cybertank Series (mostly about human-derived military AI; series authored by a neuroscience researcher)

    The late James P. Hogan wrote several stories involving AIs that were quite thought provoking -- especially his early "The Two Faces of Tomorrow". And of course the late Iain Banks' Culture Series is also interesting for its AIs, especially "Excession".

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    A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.