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Amateur Scientists Find New Clue In D.B. Cooper Case, Crowdsource Their Investigation (kare11.com)

Six months after the FBI closed the only unsolved air piracy in American aviation history -- after a 45-year investigation -- there's a new clue. An anonymous reader quotes Seattle news station KING: A band of amateur scientists selected by the Seattle FBI to look for clues in the world's most infamous skyjacking may have found new evidence in the 45-year-old case. They're asking for the public's help because of new, potential leads that could link DB Cooper to the Puget Sound aerospace industry in the early 1970s. The scientific team has been analyzing particles removed from the clip-on tie left behind by Cooper after he hijacked a Northwest Orient passenger jet in November 1971. A powerful electron microscope located more than 100,000 particles on old the JCPenny tie. The team has identified particles like Cerium, Strontium Sulfide, and pure titanium.

Tom Kaye, lead researcher for the group calling itself Citizen Sleuths, says the group is intrigued by the finding, because the elements identified were rarely used in 1971, during the time of Cooper's daring leap with a parachute from a passenger jet. One place they were being used was for Boeing's high-tech Super Sonic Transport plane...

Interestingly, it was even a Boeing aircraft that Cooper hijacked, and witnesses say he wasn't nervous on the flight, and seemed familiar with the terrain below.

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  1. Re:I have never understood by NFN_NLN · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why so much publicity on individual cases of private individuals?

    It says right in the first sentence: "the only unsolved air piracy in American aviation history"

  2. Jimmy James by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    We all know that D.B. Cooper was Jimmy James.

    1. Re:Jimmy James by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

      We all know that D.B. Cooper was Jimmy James.

      No, he was Jimmy Johns, and he used the money to establish a successful chain of sandwich shops.

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  3. And he would've gotten away with it, too... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    If it weren't for these meddling old people!

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  4. Re:" it was even a Boeing aircraft" by mschuyler · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not the point. He knew how to lower the stairs. He was familiar with THIS aircraft, a 727. The whole thing took place between Portland and Seattle, where the SST manufacturing plant was located, which is a valid and rare source for the material found on the tie. The government had just cancelled the SST program and Boeing laid of thousands of workers in the midst of the Boeing death-spiral recession that was happening at the same time where Boeing went from 130,000 employees to 35,000 in 18 months. That's when the billboard went up: "Will the last one to leave Seattle please turn out the lights?" That points to someone who worked at Boeing or at least had inside information.

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  5. Re:It's obvious by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

    A GPS watch taken back in time to 1971 wouldn't work because there would be no GPS satellites in orbit.

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  6. Re:WTF by Jamu · · Score: 2

    The collective noun for a group of bittorrentors?

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  7. Re:I'm still rooting for him. by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Plot twist: DB Cooper is actually John McAfee.

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  8. Re:" it was even a Boeing aircraft" by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Has anyone examined a random sample of similar ties from the 1970s? Given a single sample, you can always find something novel there, until you realise that it was contamination from the shipping container, or manufacturing, or the environment, or whatever, and a bazillion other samples show the same traces.

  9. Re:It's obvious by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 2

    The GPS device has a knife switch on the back that toggles it to use LORAN navigation.

  10. Reading is Fundamental by Tenebrousedge · · Score: 4, Informative

    Next time could you bother to read the article? Yes, titanium dioxide is common, which is the entire point of mentioning that element, because the elemental form is far less common, and even less common then.

    It's not that your comments aren't valuable, it's that you don't know when you have fine caviar in your hand or fetid dogshit -- it's the same to you either way. In this case — so you know — this is dogshit.

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    1. Re:Reading is Fundamental by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not that your tastes, are not to be respected, they are. But caviar is as gross as dog shit --so you know.

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    2. Re:Reading is Fundamental by Khyber · · Score: 2

      If you knew shit about Boeing, you'd know they had R&D facilities where they developed alloys and then had other industry partners manufacture them en-masse.

      Boeing was heavily involved in titanium alloys and aluminum-lithium alloy development in the 70s and 80s.

      Which is a perfect explanation about why pure titanium, cerium, and more was found on the tie.

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  11. Nothing new (2011 dupe?) by guruevi · · Score: 4, Informative

    We've know for quite a long time about the titanium. Here's a story from 2011: http://www.upi.com/Did-DB-Coop...

    It hasn't been relevant for a long time, the guy walked off with $200k and may or may not have survived. In the mean time, a small band of cyber criminals has been hacking banks and ATM's for the last decade without ever being caught despite still being active, having been tied to close to $1B in losses worldwide.

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  12. His reserve chute was a dummy. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Interesting
    His main chute was ok, but FBI now says, they accidentally sent him a dummy class room demo chute, with inoperable rip cord and the bag sewn shut, inadvertently. So he had only one working chute. Dropped into dark rainy air, without helmet, without oxygen, without camping, hunting, survival gear, with one chute and two money bags strapped to his waist. The wiki is wrong to say he went into -57 deg F air. that is cruise altitude FL300 range. He dropped at FL100, people live at higher altitude than this, in places like Tibet, ski lodges in Alps. So with some thermal underpants, he could drop to 5000 ft in less than a minute.

    It is possible for him to have landed safely and secreted the money bags. After that it is very difficult to believe he could have survived long, somehow hitchhiked out of that area, to some bus station or train yard or truck stop traveled without being seen out of that area. With that level of media attention to that part of the country all strangers would have been noticed and reported. I think he died near where the cash was found. The wild animals tore through his body and clothing, most the cash and bones ended up in the river and washed out to the ocean.

    Advice to future copy-cats. Practice skydiving and become familiar. Try to take your own familiar parachute. Ask for basic camping survival gear. Dry food rations and some water. After landing safely, secure the cash and note the gps coordinates. Find a water course and follow it down stream. Till you come to a river with decent flowing water. Collect drift wood, form a raft and float down stream. Raft only at nights. From the watershed where you jump, figure out which river you will end up in, pick the city to rejoin civilization, practice it couple of times, do dry runs.

    With the proliferation of security cameras, high resolution picture of your face will have been recorded by TSA. So grow mustache, beard, dye them, wear glasses. Doctor your eye-glass frames to be asymmetric, slightly. You need to make the eigen values of the face detection algo matrix go askew. After the fact switch to contacts, go clean shaven and revert to natural hair color. Colored contact lenses before the crime^H^H^H^H^H adventure, a must.

    Realize if you can pull this off, you are smart enough to make more money legally.

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    1. Re:His reserve chute was a dummy. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Considering how much effort he put into planning the rest of the operation, it isn't unreasonable to assume that he had a plan for when he landed. Perhaps he prepared some supplies and transport before hand. A change of clothes so as not to look suspicious, replacement bags for the money.

      It just seems unlikely that after so carefully figuring out how to pull off the hijacking he would neglect to consider how to escape afterwards.

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  13. Re:" it was even a Boeing aircraft" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... if you worked in a muffler shop in 1971.

    If you worked in a muffler shop in 1971, you would probably be asking, "Whut's a katlitic converter?"

  14. Re:" it was even a Boeing aircraft" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The first production catalytic converter was not until 1973, in part because they wouldn't work while leaded fuels were still common. And titanium white was first produced in the 1910s, not the 1800s like you said above. Your dates seem to be rather off.

  15. Re: " it was even a Boeing aircraft" by PoopJuggler · · Score: 3, Funny

    Probably an early prototype formulation of Kraft Macaroni and Cheese

  16. Re:" it was even a Boeing aircraft" by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

    Back in the 70's, converters got blocked up pretty quickly, so the quick fix was - if it was a honeycomb, disconnect one end, jam a rod into it. break up the honeycomb, and pour it into the recycling drum - it it was pellets, dump them into the recycling drum. There was good money in recycling the rare elements in them, and people didn't want to fork out extra money for a replacement converter.

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