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Apple/Samsung Patent Case Returns To Court To Revisit Infringement Damages (macrumors.com)

Posted by EditorDavid on from the sue-you-later dept.

An anonymous reader quotes MacRumors: The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit on Thursday reopened a longstanding patent lawsuit related to Samsung copying the design of the iPhone nearly six years ago...according to court documents filed electronically this week... Apple's damages were calculated based on Samsung's entire profit from the sale of its infringing Galaxy smartphones, but the Supreme Court ruled it did not have enough info to say whether the amount should be based on the total device, or rather individual components such as the front bezel or the screen. It will now be up to the appeals court to decide.

Apple last month said the lawsuit, ongoing since 2011, has always been about Samsung's "blatant copying" of its ideas, adding that it remains optimistic that the U.S. Court of Appeals will "again send a powerful signal that stealing isn't right."

84 comments

  1. Re:The damages weren't enough by sjames · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Since Jobs was inspired to the rounded rectangle design when he saw a street sign, shouldn't they be paying the DOT?

  2. Just how much of the phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    would still function without rounded corners? Also I think there is prior art on bezels.

    1. Re:Just how much of the phone by sit1963nz · · Score: 0

      It was not just the corners It was the packaging It was the charger it was the 30 point port on the bottom It was the icons, the fonts used, etc etc etc etc etc The whole thing was designed to look like an iPhone. EVERY other phone manufacturer managed to create products that were easy distinguished from Apples products, Samsung made products that their own lawyer could not pick out from a line up. This is a large part of why Samsung is the only Android phone maker who makes any real profit. Think of Samsung being the knock off Rolex watch of cellphones.

    2. Re:Just how much of the phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But none of those bits about font or pixels was in the patent supposedly infringed. Either they aren't patentable or weren't patendable therefore open for reimplementation.

    3. Re:Just how much of the phone by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      Think of Samsung being the knock off Rolex watch of cellphones.

      Since when is the superior product a "Knock off"?

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    4. Re:Just how much of the phone by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Think of Samsung being the knock off Rolex watch of cellphones.

      Since when is the superior product a "Knock off"?

      Exactly. And that's why Samsung makes "Knock offs" - thanks for the confirmation.

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    5. Re:Just how much of the phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ever since the first Apple fanboi.

  3. Background information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    This story won't make much sense to younger Slashdotters without a history lesson. Years ago Apple's CEO was a guy called Steve Jobs, and under his management they used to have ideas worth copying. Also at that time Samsung made phones that were successful as communication devices rather than as incendiaries. Now go back and read the summary and hopefully it'll make more sense to you.

    1. Re:Background information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Oh ya, and the Jobs guy was a narcissistic a-hole that thought is was ok for him to steal ideas from others but went off in a rage when other dared use his. He was the villain of this story.

  4. Asian people lie, cheat, and steal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In other news, the sky is blue and a bear took a shit in the woods.

    1. Re:Asian people lie, cheat, and steal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and americans stero-typically are fat, dumb, rascist and arrogant fucks.

    2. Re:Asian people lie, cheat, and steal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a Millennial, I find your profiling offensive!

    3. Re:Asian people lie, cheat, and steal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As A grumpy old timer I don't give a fuck what offends you.

    4. Re:Asian people lie, cheat, and steal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and americans stero-typically are fat, dumb, rascist and arrogant fucks.

      sadly, you forgot lazy!

  5. Re:Common Sense Ways to Protect America by volodymyrbiryuk · · Score: 0

    Let's nuke the shit out of them...MURICA

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  6. What about what Apple stole? by backslashdot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Finger scrolling on a touchscreen --- Stolen from IBM, US Patent 6278443
    Kinetic scrolling on a touchscreen -- Stolen from Philips
    Magnetic connector -- Stolen from Japanese appliance manufacturer
    Landscape/portrait mode change based on phone orientation -- Stolen from the touchscreen myOrigo phone made in Finland
    Browser Task switcher look & feel -- Stolen from Nokia
    Large touchscreen phone idea -- stolen from me http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    That's not mentioning the wholesale lifting of the idea of cell phones, smartphones, and apps from Motorola, Blackberry, and others.

    1. Re:What about what Apple stole? by backslashdot · · Score: 1

      Forgot to mention also stealing their stealing of the fingerprint authentication idea from Motorola. I feel like that is pretty significant. What did Motorola get for that?

    2. Re:What about what Apple stole? by Ecuador · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but nobody had put all those in a rounded rectangle! It was a brilliant move, I hated all those triangles and hexagons that came before it!

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    3. Re:What about what Apple stole? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget all the apps that Apple has stolen from--got a cool app or feature that you created and released on the App Store? Sweet, thanks, we just stole that idea and banned your app!

    4. Re:What about what Apple stole? by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 0, Troll

      Finger scrolling on a touchscreen --- Stolen from IBM, US Patent 6278443 Kinetic scrolling on a touchscreen -- Stolen from Philips Magnetic connector -- Stolen from Japanese appliance manufacturer Landscape/portrait mode change based on phone orientation -- Stolen from the touchscreen myOrigo phone made in Finland Browser Task switcher look & feel -- Stolen from Nokia Large touchscreen phone idea -- stolen from me http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

      That's not mentioning the wholesale lifting of the idea of cell phones, smartphones, and apps from Motorola, Blackberry, and others.

      All of this is not only questionable; but more importantly, it is both off topic to this article and lawsuit, but more importantly, it is legally MOOT.

      As it says in TFS, the ONLY reason this has been sent back down to a lower court, is that the reviewing court thought that the damages to be paid to Apple needed more "precise" calculation.

      Liability, which is always a seperate issue in Civil (tort) law, has already been established.

      Samsung lost. So all your whining is nothing but that: The petulant Whining of a sore loser. So, mods, the +5 Insightful rating for the Parent simply points out (once again), the unbridled Apple Hate that manifests itself in Slashdot's asinine and broken "moderation" system.

    5. Re:What about what Apple stole? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You assume they didn't pay the patent owner for use of those patents.

    6. Re:What about what Apple stole? by backslashdot · · Score: 1

      How is it questionable? What a frail attempt at discrediting my factual statements. Which of my statements is provably false? Are you saying Philips did not invent kinetic scrolling on a touchscreen before Apple? Just google it. Are you saying the myOrigo phone didnt have landscape/portrait mode switching? Again, google it .. you'll see many old articles reviewing that phone.

      Check the dates on any of the ideas or inventions I listed.

    7. Re:What about what Apple stole? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All you did was list a bunch of patent numbers. You did not show that the claims inside the patents specifically were specifically infringed. Nor have you shown whether or not the patents had been licensed to Apple by their owners. Please do the work for us. kthxbye

    8. Re:What about what Apple stole? by notsteve · · Score: 1

      Large touchscreen phone idea -- stolen from me http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

      You are delusional, unless you're being sarcastic, in which case, well-played.

    9. Re:What about what Apple stole? by notsteve · · Score: 2

      The things you list are not nearly as simple as you make them out to be - there's not "one thing" that generated these ideas. Each of these "ideas" is, fact, hundreds of different ideas, refined, combined, and cross-influenced. Look up some peer-reviewed papers on these topics—you'll find hundreds of papers on even very specific topics, usually representing small, evolutionary steps. User interface interface research is a complex science.

    10. Re:What about what Apple stole? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      So, mods, the +5 Insightful rating for the Parent simply points out (once again), the unbridled Apple Hate that manifests itself in Slashdot's asinine and broken "moderation" system.

      Dry your Apple-flavored tears, troll. Approximately every time I say bad things about Apple here I get moderated down by Apple fans who are crying about the resulting sand in their arsecrack.

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    11. Re:What about what Apple stole? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The OP didn't lose. The entire body of phone customers did, as they'll be paying more for ludicrous "IP", as Apple suppresses competition which, for any other industry, would be completely standard "learning from others' simplistic design ideas". Rounded corner, fancier car headlights. Everything is built on something else, and when an idea is a) not even mildly clever, and b) originated with someone else entirely, you can stack the entire Earth's population of lawyers up claiming otherwise, it will still be ludicrous.

      Really, I'd suggest working first on your magical thinking and irrationality in casting random insults to posters having nothing to do with the financial gains being discussed, first, though. He was expressing an ethical opinion. Maybe the first time you've heard one, and maybe know you'll be able to formulate your first one of your life.

    12. Re:What about what Apple stole? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So, mods, the +5 Insightful rating for the Parent simply points out (once again), the unbridled Apple Hate that manifests itself in Slashdot's asinine and broken "moderation" system.

      It isnt Apple "hate", you just characterize it that way because you can't understand that people can view companies objectively rather than emotionally. In TFS you see Apple's motivation for this is to push the idea that copying is wrong, which GP is pointing out is rather hypocritical given their history of not really inventing anything but rather producing a collection of copied ideas. This usually results in brilliant products from the company but nonetheless is copying of other peoples' ideas.

      I'm a fan of what they produce and I think the fact that they copy others to do it is just fine, but it's obviously hypocritical for them to say nobody is allowed to copy them.

    13. Re:What about what Apple stole? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL Yes Samsung lost but apple originally wanted 2 BILLION dollars. They were awarded 1 Billion, then down to 548 million as people realised how ridiculous some of the patents were and now its at 399 million and likely to go lower. This all brought apples pathetic nature to the public eye and has made them a joke in the industry; so who really lost.

    14. Re:What about what Apple stole? by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Large touchscreen phone idea -- stolen from me

      Considering people complained the screen of the original iPhone was too big, they obviously stole the idea from themselves.

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    15. Re:What about what Apple stole? by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Forgot to mention also stealing their stealing of the fingerprint authentication idea from Motorola. I feel like that is pretty significant. What did Motorola get for that?

      Oh, you mean from the Moto phone where the fingerprint scanner was on the back, and you had to swipe your finger across it and the camera lens right next to it? Yeah, Apple totally stole that - only that there were fingerprint scanners decades before, and Apple actually did it in a way that wasn't literally a mess.

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    16. Re:What about what Apple stole? by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      So, mods, the +5 Insightful rating for the Parent simply points out (once again), the unbridled Apple Hate that manifests itself in Slashdot's asinine and broken "moderation" system.

      Dry your Apple-flavored tears, troll. Approximately every time I say bad things about Apple here I get moderated down by Apple fans who are crying about the resulting sand in their arsecrack.

      Yeah, it has nothing to do with your claims being wrong. Facts be damned.

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    17. Re:What about what Apple stole? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it has nothing to do with your claims being wrong. Facts be damned.

      I've used Apples since the ][+. Still have two macs here now, just to fiddle with them. I think I've probably owned a dozen or so Apples, if I think about it. The longer I think, the more I remember. ][+, Mac Plus, SE, IIci, Centris 650, Powerbook 280c, B&W G3 Revision 1, original B&W iMac, iBook G3, iMac G4 are the ones I can think of right now. I thought about building a Hackintosh, but then I came to my senses and refreshed my Linux install. I've also run NeXTStep in vmware, and used a Turbo slab a few times. Point to a claim I've made about Apple which is wrong. I know my Apple bullshit from personal experience.

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    18. Re:What about what Apple stole? by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Well, I have been told using Apple products proves you are wrong - so what's your point? That you are wrong? Yes, we already told you. That you continue to be wrong, or are in fact even more wrong than before is completely your problem. Stop whining.

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    19. Re:What about what Apple stole? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Stop whining.

      Point to where I said something untrue about Apple, or take a flying fuck off a tall cliff. Thanks.

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    20. Re:What about what Apple stole? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop whining.

      Point to where I said something untrue about Apple, or take a flying fuck off a tall cliff. Thanks.

      That's easy. Every use of the word stolen is an emotive statement not based in fact or law unless you also show us where the courts upheld that view.

    21. Re:What about what Apple stole? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      That's easy. Every use of the word stolen is an emotive statement not based in fact or law unless you also show us where the courts upheld that view.

      Oh, my incompetent noob. Go back and read the thread, and point to the place where I used that word.

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    22. Re:What about what Apple stole? by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      That's easy. Every use of the word stolen is an emotive statement not based in fact or law unless you also show us where the courts upheld that view.

      Oh, my incompetent noob. Go back and read the thread, and point to the place where I used that word.

      ThatÄs easy: https://slashdot.org/~drinkypo... - find one that was modded down to be sure.

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  7. Re:The damages weren't enough by sit1963nz · · Score: 0, Troll

    Turns out every other phone manufacturer was able to design a phone that looked nothing like the iPhone.
    Samsung on the other hand not only made it loos as close as they could, there are internal memos telling them what the engineers had to copy.

    So, if this were a book, the other writers would copy the genre (e.g. Ghost Horror), samsung would simply change the font it was written in.

    And samsung has a long history of doing this, Apple is not the first nor will they be the last victim of samsung blatant copying

  8. Re:Common Sense Ways to Protect America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any suggestions on how to protect the rest of the world for the US then?

    I have heard a wall idea being thrown around, sounds good to me. I am sure everyone will chip in, we won't even have to resort to dumb ideas like getting the US to pay for it.

  9. Re:Common Sense Ways to Protect America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any suggestions on how to protect the rest of the world for the US then?

    We are coming to spread democracy on you. Get ready for it.

  10. Re:What is Trump doing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Putin hasn't OK'd it yet.

  11. Patent stupidity will eventually sink the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is patent stupidity that will bring down a once great nation called the United States. One of the best examples is how China has rejected the patent upon the mechanism to shape a drug to make a chemical to lock on and introduce an antiviral drug directly into the human hepatocyte. In short the patent that Gilead bought for Sofosbuvir. Which is so expensive because of simple greed that we wait until those with HCV have cirrhosis before we treat.

    Face it the patent system is broken and will come back to bite all of us in the ass long term. Apple's case against Samsung is just another pathetic example of abuse of a critically flawed system. Even Donald Trump has taken Apple and now the pharmaceutical industry to task for being a bunch of gouging thieves.

    I just wonder if his telling Apple to build stuff in the states is going to make any difference or if him taking a shot at the welfare capitalists juggernaut lobby groups will ride well with his political party. Will there will be a herd of rats leaving his ship of state if he goes ahead and keeps on exposing how corrupt the patent system and their backers in both political parties really are?

    Stay tuned if he is for real we are in for one hell of a ride. Learn to say quack if your business is solely dependent upon so called intellectual property. Because one thing Trump is right about is this; the US corporations by relying so heavily upon others to build things from their so called intellectual property America is bound to lose its shirt economically in the long term. It does not take a rocket scientist to see this and Donald Trump sure as hell ain't one.

    1. Re:Patent stupidity will eventually sink the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope you are right. The world is fed up with the U.S., and thankfully the world needs the U.S. far less than they need us.

  12. Violence: Profitable for the conficted & ignor by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Violence is the only answer! ...MURICA

    In MURICA, violence is a way for highly conflicted, not-smart people to get rich. Bush and Cheney started a war that was profitable for them: House of Bush, House of Saud, by Craig Unger.

  13. Re:Common Sense Ways to Protect America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I already live in a democracy.

    Besides, why would a country that is a fascist police state that has their leaders appointed by foreign governments go around spreading democracy?

  14. Bull by sjvn · · Score: 3, Informative

    SCOTUS specifically said Apple is NOT entitled to all of Samsung's Galaxty profits. That ship has sailed. They'll also get a fraction of what they wanted, which is still too much. See

      http://www.zdnet.com/article/s...

    for details.

    Steven

  15. Re:Common Sense Ways to Protect America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your democracy will be replaced. Prepare for freedom.

  16. Re:The damages weren't enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If that were true, then why did Apple have to fake images of a Samsung phone to look like the iPhone?

  17. stealing isn't right and is not the right word by Zemran · · Score: 1

    Court of Appeals will "again send a powerful signal that stealing isn't right." steal (v). take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it. I do not think that there was any intention to permanently deprive Apple of anything so there was no theft. I would expect the Court of Appeals to understand the legal definition and not pander to the latest propaganda.

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    1. Re:stealing isn't right and is not the right word by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems that the law treats patent infringement as "stealing the benefit of the patented invention" from the patent holder. That is, stealing an intangible "property"; the as-yet unrealised future sales of the protected invention. See Doctrine of Equivalents. Unfortunately, a patent case does not seem to require present or future sales to be a reality (although clearly they are in this case).

  18. Re:Common Sense Ways to Protect America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I reiterate, why would a country that is a fascist police state that has their leaders appointed by foreign governments go around spreading "freedom"?

    What you are saying makes no sense.

  19. Re:The damages weren't enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    because apple has no business ethics what so ever. Lie, cheat, steal; all part of apples credo.

  20. Re:Common Sense Ways to Protect America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hell im all for the Made in China apple corp to not sell their crap anywhere but in the US. That will teach the rest of the ungrateful world.

  21. Doctor Who by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Somehow all the geeks here missed the good doctor. In fact, I'd like to sight just two examples:
    Episode 1 - An Unearthly Child - William Hartnell ... hand held device with modestly rounded corners, flat front amd flat back

    Episode 2 - The Daleks - William Hartnell ... hand held device with rounded corrners, flat face, slightly rounded back

    Food for thought ... Woz and Jobs were who fans or at least one of them was!

    Just sayin ...

  22. Re:Violence: Profitable for the conficted & ig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And Hillary and Obama destabilized Syria so they could build a pipline.

  23. Re: Common Sense Ways to Protect America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    USA isn't even a democracy, it's a republic.

  24. Re:The damages weren't enough by meerling · · Score: 2

    It was a 'design patent'. Not something about technology or production, but rather about looks. Pretty much everyone I've ever talked to about that says the entire concept is total B.S.
    Gee, bevels in glass so it doesn't have the sharp edges. Corners on rectangles to they don't poke you when in your pocket. Total obvious garbage.

  25. Apple . . . I remember them . . . by mmell · · Score: 0
    They're the guys that took a photocopier interface and turned it into the Macintoss. Oh, I'll bet there's a guy or two at Xerox who'd love to have a word with them about that.

    Then the Nameless One (okay, Bill Gates) licensed the GUI from Apple and before they could say "hang on, we stole that first!" hit the markets with Windoze. The first time I saw it, it was the 2.0 - klunky, buggy, performed like a tortoise on phenobarbitol, but correctly marketed to all of those businesses that had no clue what a computer was but knew they wanted 'em.

    Now, it deserves to be said that Bill was slimier than Steve. He managed to put it to IBM in through the same time frame (actually, he hosed IBM down first by several years). Nobody felt sorry for IBM then, even though this was before they began their meteoric descent into becoming the overgrown, megalithic dinosaur of the IT industry. We all knew that IBM was so great and so powerful that Billy couldn't hurt 'em and besides . . . Winders was so cute and so fun! I could have a clock right on my screen while I pretended to work hard on a Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheet open (in a DOS window, mind you) - and I could even play around with Solitaire, as long as the boss wasn't around! IBM was always going to own the enterprise computing environment, let Billy have a few bucks selling his hobby toys to computer enthusiasts.

    But back to Apple - somewhere along the line, Stevie learned a pretty good lesson. He got the living #3!! away from the enterprise and started salivating over the home market early on. Along the way, he picked up on the niche needs of artists and publishers while Billy kept cranking out collaborationware to go with the new Never-Tested version of Windows and IBM kept insisting (wishing?) that the whole PC craze would go away, because anything worth doing was worth doing on a mainframe anyhow.

    Fast forward - Apple still insists on owning your hardware and software stack with a thoroughness that makes even Microsoft blush. Sure, they beat M$ to the punch on a lot of nifty stuff, but really - patenting rounded corners? I'm pretty sure furniture can be found going back to the caveman days with filleted corners, beveled edges, and even a white paint job. Next thing you know, they'll be putting the audio jack on the bottom of the phone . . .

    Oh, wait . . .

    1. Re: Apple . . . I remember them . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple didn't steal from Xerox, they had approval to go through and take the idea.

      Steve never licenced the Mac GUI, Sculley did. Sculley's tenure is not officially recognized.

  26. Re: Violence: Profitable for the conficted & i by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Violence is the answer!

    Correct, they would also have accepted "tax cuts" or "get rid of regulations".

  27. Re: The damages weren't enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WTF are you talking about. The iPhone was a copy of the LG Prada with a few differences

  28. Re:The damages weren't enough by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

    If that were true, then why did Apple have to fake images of a Samsung phone to look like the iPhone?

    They didn't so they didn't.

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  29. Re: The damages weren't enough by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

    WTF are you talking about. The iPhone was a copy of the LG Prada with a few differences

    A phone that was officially announced a week after the iPhone. And was immediately called an iPhone copy. . To be fair - they actually didn't look that much alike. As for the differences: One was an overpriced, underpowered fashion accessory, the other one the iPhone.

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  30. Re:The damages weren't enough by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

    It was a 'design patent'. Not something about technology or production, but rather about looks

    IOW something that can be very easily be avoided to violate. Thanks for confirming Samsung is guilty as hell.

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  31. Re:Violence: Profitable for the conficted & ig by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

    And Hillary and Obama destabilized Syria so they could build a pipline.

    Why would one destabilize a country to build anything? You are confusing the theme of your conspiracy theory: they supposedly did it to stop a pipeline.But I wonder how they managed to create the drought at the heart of the destabilization- back when Dubya was still PotUS. . Or how they forced Assad to gas his people.

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  32. Re: The damages weren't enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's pretty much every corp, it's part of the bottom line of maximizing profits.

  33. Re: The damages weren't enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    One was an overpriced, underpowered fashion accessory, the other one the iPhone.

    So they were the same after-all.

  34. Re:The damages weren't enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a completely idiotic troll.
    Apple phones have been looking more and more like Androids every generation, why is that?

  35. Re:The damages weren't enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They did because they did.

  36. How does one say that Apple invented the design?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mean, did Apple invent time travel, go back in time 10,000+ years, and create the first clay-tablet and wooden stylus?

    If not, then Apple "stole" the design from the same place Samsung borrowed it from.

    End of fucking story, end of fucking lawsuit.

    Apple hasn't had an original idea or product since Steve Wozniak's departure.

  37. Re:The damages weren't enough by Ranbot · · Score: 1

    It was a 'design patent'. Not something about technology or production, but rather about looks....the entire concept is total B.S. Gee, bevels in glass so it doesn't have the sharp edges. Corners on rectangles to they don't poke you when in your pocket. Total obvious garbage.

    The 1990's Nokia cell phones had beveled edges, should no one have ever been allowed to have a beveled edge on a phone afterward? Phones have certain functionality constraints that limit design possibilities which I think should be considered. I appreciate the patent and copyright systems to protect inventors, artists, and entrepreneurs, but we all know they are imperfect systems. IMHO, this Apple vs Samsung case has been counter to the spirit of the system and this saga should have ended long ago [I understand my opinion is worth nothing to most people].

  38. Re: The damages weren't enough by sjames · · Score: 1

    If it came one week later, it definitely wasn't a copy. It takes a lot longer than a week to design a smartphone.

  39. Re:Common Sense Ways to Protect America by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    I don't know, let me know when you come across a fascist police state.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  40. Re:The damages weren't enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, Samsung did.

  41. Re:The damages weren't enough by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

    What a completely idiotic troll. Apple phones have been looking more and more like Androids every generation, why is that?

    Because it's actually the other way around.

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