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Tesla Is Investing $350 Million In Its Gigafactory, Hiring Hundreds of Workers (cnbc.com)

Just weeks after the massive Gigafactory started producing batteries, Tesla has announced plans to hire more workers and use the facility to make the motor and gearbox for its upcoming Model 3 electric sedan. CNBC reports: Tesla will invest $350 million for the project, and hire an additional 550 people, according to the governor's comments. That will be over and above the company's existing commitment to hiring 6,500 people at the Gigafactory, according to comments made by Steve Hill, the director of the governor's Office of Economic Development, to Nevada newspaper the Nevada Appeal. Tesla CEO Elon Musk has made manufacturing efficiency a high priority for the company, but Tesla will require a lot of factory floor to meet its goal of to pumping out 500,000 cars by the end of 2018, and then making one million cars by 2020. Meanwhile, the city of Fremont recently approved Tesla's application for an additional 4.6 million square feet of space there.

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  1. MAGA by amiga3D · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thanks Donald! Great job!

    1. Re:MAGA by mmell · · Score: 5, Funny

      So sad. Making cars that don't run on dead dinosaurs, a choice by a crime-infested manufacturer. They should fix up their existing factory and not create jobs for illegal immigrants. Terrible.

    2. Re:MAGA by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 2

      I should have qualified that
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  2. Gearbox in electric car by dfsmith · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was curious as to why Tesla needs special gearboxes, but apparently the Model S uses a 9.73:1 single-gear reduction. I guess this lets the engineering team tweak the voltage to torque ratios (as opposed to rewinding the motors and modifying the drive circuitry). https://forums.tesla.com/forum...

    1. Re:Gearbox in electric car by mspohr · · Score: 5, Informative

      The Tesla "gearbox" is just a differential to connect the electric motor to the two drive shafts. There is no clutch. There is only one "gear".
      The electric motor has nearly flat torque from 0 rpm up to 16,000 rpm so they don't need to change gears.

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    2. Re:Gearbox in electric car by AaronW · · Score: 3, Informative

      Tesla needs custom gearboxes for several reasons. First of all, being electric it doesn't need a multi-speed transmission. Second, it has to be able to handle a very high amount of torque all at once since an electric motor can generate high torque at 0 RPM with virtually no lag and very low inertia. Tesla worked with several manufacturers for the Roadster transmission and they all failed miserably due to the high torque involved until they designed and built their own.

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    3. Re:Gearbox in electric car by avandesande · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually they wanted a two speed transmission but every attempt failed. This is why the top speed is limited in the Tesla.

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    4. Re:Gearbox in electric car by lgw · · Score: 2

      The top speed is mostly limited by the battery life - top speed goes with the cube root of horsepower. Increase the top speed by 10% and your "top speed battery life" drops by 30%. Teslas are great toys for US roads, but a joke on the Autobahn.

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    5. Re:Gearbox in electric car by wildsurf · · Score: 4, Informative

      20%, not 30%. Wind resistance increases with the cube of speed, but energy-per-mile efficiency (assuming all energy is spent fighting wind resistance) is only squared. That's because you spend less time driving a given distance at higher speed.

      The Tesla P100D's dual motors combine for 760 horsepower, which would be more than enough to sustain 200mph+ with proper gearing and tires. By comparison, a Lamborghini Gallardo achieves a top speed of 202mph with just 562 horsepower. The Tesla's motors redline at about 16000rpm, which at the 9.7:1 fixed gearing ratio corresponds to about 155mph. If the gearing ratio were halved, the low-speed acceleration would reduce but the top speed would go up dramatically.

      True, at 200mph the P100D battery pack would only be good for about 40 miles. But gas supercars don't do much better. At top speed, a Bugatti Veyron can burn through an entire 26-gallon tank of gas in just 12 minutes (51 miles).

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    6. Re:Gearbox in electric car by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      At top speed, a Bugatti Veyron can burn through an entire 26-gallon tank of gas in just 12 minutes

      But that's OK because IIRC, the tyres are only rated for 6 minutes at top speed.

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  3. Re:Doesn't work! by speedplane · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well that's $350 million wasted. I drive 200 miles each way to my ranch each weekend, no way I could do that in an electric vehicle. Electric cars are a fad.

    The tech isn't there yet, and it's moving slowly, but it's still moving in the right direction. Give it time and you'll get to your ranch on an all-electric vehicle.

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  4. Re:Doesn't work! by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I drive 200 miles each way to my ranch each weekend, no way I could do that in an electric vehicle.

    I realize you are trolling, but still want to point out that a Tesla could handle that easily, as long as your ranch has electrical outlets.

  5. How's that feel Texas? by JoeyRox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You were in the running for the Gigafactory but then decided that repaying political favors to your car dealerships was more important and blocked Tesla's ability to sell directly to their customers.

    1. Re:How's that feel Texas? by JoeyRox · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, having leading-edge tech development just 3 1/2 hours of the bay area in a low-tax zone will be horrible for Nevada going forward.

    2. Re:How's that feel Texas? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      The key word in the summary is 'hundreds'. It brings the total that Tesla is planning on hiring to 7,000. Nevada is giving Tesla $1.3bn over 20 years, so that works out at $65m/year, or $10K/worker. It's a pretty big gamble that the state will take $10K/year more in tax revenues per worker than if the factory were not there. They're betting that the existence of the Tesla factory will spur other job-creating manufacturing industry.

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  6. Re:Doesn't work! by AaronW · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The entry level will have a 200 mile range. I'm sure there will be versions with more than a 200 mile range. As long as there is charging at the ranch it isn't a problem. I drive over 200 miles in my model S without any problems. Also, adding 20-50 miles of range at a supercharger doesn't take very long. When the supercharger kicks in on my model S it charges at over 300 miles/hour and my car is a 1st generation. The current ones charge faster since mine is limited to 90KW (revision A battery pack) and the new ones charge at 135KW and may soon hit 150KW. With my car, if I had to add 20 miles of range and my battery were at 20-40% it would take approximately 4 minutes to add 20 miles of range.

    Being smaller and lighter I expect the model 3 will gain range quite a bit faster than the model S, since the same amount of power will provide more range.

    On my last trip to Reno I had to stop in Truckee to use the restroom at the nearby grocery store. In the time it took me to use the restroom and buy a couple items I had another 50 miles of range.

    I generally find that the speed of charging at a destination isn't all that important as long as I can be fully charged overnight.

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  7. Not Tech news by Luthair · · Score: 2

    Press releases from Tesla are not necessarily news for nerds.

  8. Re:Doesn't work! by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought it was stranger s/he's making a 400mile road trip across states on an every-week basis.

    400 miles is "just down the road" is Texan mileage units. Anything farther than 400 mile is "just down the road, aways."

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  9. Re:Doesn't work! by tempo36 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Eeeehh....I wish I could agree. But I drive a Tesla X with a 90 kWh battery. If I ever get it to drive 200 miles on a "full 250 mile" charge, I'll wet myself with glee.

    Last weekend left a Supercharger with 230 miles remaining range, drove 90 miles at 68 mph and reached my destination with 110 miles of range remaining. Thankfully I found a L2 charger to plug into while I visited friends so I could make it the 90 miles back to the Supercharger on the way home.

    I wish I could do 200 miles without white knuckles or driving 55 mph with the climate control off.

    p.s. I agree the author was probably trolling, and with 100 kWh batteries and larger he totally is a troll, but at 90 kWh and below...sort of right.

  10. Re:Racist or not by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We already know that those who support Voter ID intend to disenfranchise poor and specifically black voters, in order to keep out the 40 or so people who have committed this crime in the last 24 years.

  11. Re: Doesn't work! by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Certainly there won't be while oil continues to get subsidies to the tune of 40 BILLION per year, not counting the hundreds of billions spent to, as Dick Cheney said in 1999 his open letter to Bill Clinton demanding an attack on Iraq, "secure ...a significant portion of the world's oil"
    now, what were you saying about economics?
    Let the profiteer pay the costs and electric cars will dominate the road

  12. Re:Doesn't work! by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Informative

    If I ever get it to drive 200 miles on a "full 250 mile" charge, I'll wet myself with glee.

    I suspect that you are "doing it wrong". My wife has a Tesla, and had the same problem, but when I drove her car, I got even better mileage than the indicator. So I watched her drive, and then I mansplained what she was doing wrong. Since then she has gotten much better milage.

    In an ICE car, the "accelerator" pedal controls the rate of power going to the engine. If you push on it with your foot, the car speeds up. If you take your foot off the pedal, you coast. On a Tesla, the "accelerator" controls the SPEED OF THE CAR. If you lift your foot, the car thinks you want to slow down, and engages the regenerative brakes. This feeds power back into the battery, but only at about 60% efficiency, so 40% of the power is wasted. Try driving with the power graph displayed, and watch how often it turns orange (regeneration engaged). Practice keeping your foot steady to minimize that. It will make a big difference.

  13. Re:Racist or not by silentcoder · · Score: 4, Informative

    Most of those things use IDs that republicans have conveniently declared you can't use to vote with.

    Student IDs for example are not acceptable for voting... fuck knows why, there aren't any SANE reasons to exclude them so we have to assume an insane one... like racism.

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  14. Re:Doesn't work! by tempo36 · · Score: 2

    Yeah...nope. But I do appreciate the mansplaining. For the record, my wife (who expends no effort to drive conservatively) gets WAY worse mileage than I do. It's staggering.

    But I've tested the heck out of this thing. I have tested this out with and without cruise control. City driving and freeway driving. Long drives and short drives. With and without climate control. I've shut it down to "Sport" and even tested it out locked down in Valet mode. I've drafted, I've coasted, I've driven it like the Prius I used to own. I have compared it to a Model S in which I can effortlessly pull 290 watts/mile and in which I had to actually try hard to break 325 watts/mile.

    But nope, my P90D Model X typically struggles under any conditions to be below 425 watts/mile. It's so ridiculous I've even taken the numbers to Tesla Service and seen if they think something is wrong, and their answer is that it's "within normal limits." But even on their best test drive with the car sitting in a warm shop prior to testing and with a previous drive to get the battery packed warmed up, they were only able to get 390 watts/mile with climate control off and Sport mode on. In their words "your lifetime consumption of 410-420 watts/mile seems good". That means 215-220 miles of range at best on a full tank and in practice I find it to typically be worse at normal freeway speeds.

    p.s. The power graph is orange when you're burning energy. It's green during regen. Get your colors right before you try and "explain" to someone how an EV works.

  15. Re:Doesn't work! by tempo36 · · Score: 2

    On a Tesla, the "accelerator" controls the SPEED OF THE CAR.

    Also inaccurate by the way. If you keep your foot on the accelerator at the exact same point and the car moves from a flat to a hill, you will slow down, not maintain speed. Here is Seattle we have a lot practice with the hill thing. You need to press further if you want to maintain speed on the hill.