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New Senate Bill Would Give US Grads Preference In Receiving H-1B Visas (computerworld.com)

dcblogs quotes a report from Computerworld: A new bill in Congress would give foreign students who graduate from U.S. schools priority in getting an H-1B visa. The legislation also "explicitly prohibits" the replacement of American workers by visa holders. This bill, the H-1B and L-1 Visa Reform Act, was announced Thursday by its co-sponsors, U.S. Senators Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), longtime allies on H-1B reform. Grassley is chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which gives this bill an immediate big leg up in the legislative process. This legislation would end the annual random distribution, via a lottery, of H-1B visas, and replace it with a system to give priority to certain types of students. Foreign nationals in the best position to get one of the 85,000 H-1B visas issued annually will have earned an advanced degree from a U.S. school, have a well-paying job offer, and have preferred skills. The specific skills weren't identified, but will likely be STEM-related. "Congress created these programs to complement America's high-skilled workforce, not replace it," said Grassley, in a statement. "Unfortunately, some companies are trying to exploit the programs by cutting American workers for cheaper labor."

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  1. It's a start! by Notabadguy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's a small start on a long needed road of reform. At least they're having the discussion.

    1. Re:It's a start! by nobuddy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And then filling those positions with low level inexperienced H1b visa workers.

      My proposal- in order to get an H1b you must run an ad for 3 months on the Dept of Immigration site with your requirements. All applicants go to their review official there as well as the company. If the company cannot find a qualified applicant- and immigration agrees, then they may fill the role with an H1b applicant.
      However, if they cannot find an H1b applicant that meets the posted requirements, they must reeview the US applicants along with immigration BEFORE they select a less qualified H1b applicant. Any US applicants that have the same qualifications as the H1b applicant must be hired instead.

      And, the real kicker- the H1b applicant must be paid the same amount they would have paid the US applicant of the same qualification. Enforced via industry standard/average salaries for the region.

    2. Re: It's a start! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It happens, but the results are shitty code and a hard time monitor the work being done. It's something that's done by corporations that don't know what they're doing and are just looking for the boost to stock prices that comes from screwing the workers over.

      That's not to say that there aren't any quality coders overseas, there are, but if you're offshoring things on the basis of saving money, you're not going to be hiring any of them. You're going to be hiring the ones that are willing to make ridiculous claims and probably not actually follow through properly. Not to mention the fact that they probably don't speak English as their first language and you've got massive cultural differences to navigate.

      People that offshore for the purposes of saving money, rarely save money in the long run. Yes, it might cost less to hire a Chinese or Indian programmer to do the work, but they're all the way over there and you still have to check to make sure that it works properly.

  2. Re:Students? by ghoul · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Its for skills that cant be found locally. The latest cutting edge research is done in universities and as the majority of grad students are foreigners if companies want people with reseaerch experience at the cutting edge they need foreign students. Students are getting H1Bs because the US immigration system is so screwed that it has no specific visa for Students who have graduated from US universities to stay and work in US (every other country which has a large education industry has a student work visa post graduation) so they use the H1B which was meant for Models.
    Also mostly students are now spending 2-3 years in OPT so by the time they are on H1B they have the skills and the experience.

    All this would not be needed if the Comprehensive Immigration Reform under Bush had got passed which had basically said every student graduating in STEM would have a Greencard stapled to their Diploma.

    GCs are always better than H1Bs as they have the same freedom to work for anyone and do not depress the market like H1s do.

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  3. Re:Thank you, Pres. Trump, for putting America fir by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It was political correctness that kept people from speaking out. H1B's are "not white" and thus it is racist to try and talk about it. The real issue though is that liberals play so much identity politics that attacking anyone but a white man for his or her identity became off-limits. Add in the fact that it benefits corporations and bam - who the hell wants to touch the issue? White males can't talk about it, corporations don't care, women are only marginally affects because, on average their jobs aren't being replaced. So you are left with maybe one black guy who was replaced that can talk about it.

    With Trump's election it was decided that white men are allowed to have a voice again.

  4. Re:Thank you Donald! by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I vote for Trump because I believed there was about a 30% chance he would actually deliver on his promises to stand up to the corporations in favor of the working class. The odds were, and still are, in favor of him being full of shit on those promises. But that 30% chance is still better than the 0% chance that Hillary would have ever stood up for the working class.

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  5. Double salary for like Linus or Tim Berners-Lee by raymorris · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Raising the minimum H1-B salary from $60K to $150K would mean we could still bring in people like like Linus Torvalds or Tim Berners-Lee, who truly can't be found in the US. People who are truly special. A $150K minimum would eliminate the issue ofb replacing US workers with cheaper imports.

  6. Re:Thank you, Pres. Trump, for putting America fir by Papaspud · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It is pretty funny how less than 2 months after the election, the Clinton Foundation is shutting its doors.... nah there was no pay to play going on there.

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  7. Re:Thank you, Pres. Trump, for putting America fir by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was born a white male and no-one has ever accused me of being racist, except for some idiots on the alt-right who said I hated white males (i.e. myself). I just mocked them, rather than getting all upset and demanding a safe space away from the bad words.

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  8. Re:Thank you, Pres. Trump, for putting America fir by mjwx · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Patriotism has never been a dirty word. Misuse of the words "patriot" and "patriotism", though, has stained the words to the point where they're immediately associated with something being covered up (see: USA PATRIOT Act).

    Nationalism, though, has been a dirty word since the '40s when nationalism's big brother "Fascism" became a bit of an issue for people living in the countries immediately adjacent.

    This. Having pride in your country because its something to be proud of is patriotism, a patriot strives to improve his country.

    Demanding your country is recognised as superior without merit is nationalism. A nationalist seeks to belittle other countries to make his own look better.

    A patriot does not mind people criticising their country, a Nationalist or Jingoist does not permit any questions about his beliefs.

    I just got back from Holland. contrary to popular American views is actually a nation of people who are very proud to be Dutch, I think the confusion comes in the way the Dutch express their patriotism. Everywhere I went I was asked "You are from England, how are you enjoying Holland". Hell, even the Dutch customs officer asked me how my trip was on the way out of Schipol. The Dutch take great pride in their hospitality and friendliness. Because of this, they are actually quite open to criticism, seeing it as a means of improvement (or at the worst, know when a critisim is not valid and should be ignored).

    Even though I'm technically an Australian, I really dont mind being called English (I live there now). It happens all the time in the US, I consistently am asked "What part of England are you from" (which should be "which" part) and respond with "I'm from this small island a bit south of England called Australia". Well I guess I cant use that one any more. Sorry for the Grandpa Simpson story, and yes I did have an onion tied to my belt, which was the style at the time.

    So it's a shame that I have to use my own country as an example of nationalism, particularly as nationalism pretending to be patriotism. Traditionally, for an Australian to be proud of Australia, we were proud of its accomplishments, accomplishments that often outshone larger nations. It was always an easy going pride, the idea was that you didn't have to wave a flag or recite a poem to be a proud Australian. The Australian way used to be giving people a fair go, being kind and generous to your friends. Sure it was always cliquey but nowhere near the level of outright xenophobia you see today. The people in Australia who label themselves "patriots" are nothing but xenophobic ultra-nationalists who have adopted ironically un-Australian sayings like "Fuck off, we're full", make barely coherent arguments about "boat people" who are allegedly "destroying the Australian way of life" and "taking jobs from Hard working Australians" (lets ignore that the speaker has probably been on the dole for the last 4 years).

    Sure I know plenty of people who like Australia, who would like to express their pride, but are too scared of being associated with the likes of Reclaim Australia because... because to be frankly Australian about it, they aren't racists fuckwits like One Nation and Reclaim Australia.

    I see the same thing here now I've lived in England for a while. There's lots to celebrate about English culture (not the food, but I digress) however nationalists like the EDL (English Defence Leauge) make it hard for ordinary English to do this because they deliberately try to weld being a proud Englishmen to a xenophobic ideology... And I think that's a bloody shame.

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