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The Mind-Reading Gadget For Dogs That Got Funded, But Didn't Get Built (ieee.org)
the_newsbeagle writes: Crowdfunding campaigns that fail to deliver may be all too common, but some flameouts merit examination. Like this brain-scanning gadget for dogs, which promised to translate their barks into human language. It's not quite as goofy as it sounds: The campaigners planned to use standard EEG tech to record the dogs' brainwaves, and said they could correlate those electrical patterns with general states of mind like excitement, hunger, and curiosity. The campaign got a ton of attention in the press and raised twice the money it aimed for. But then the No More Woof team seemed to vanish, leaving backers furious. This article explains what went wrong with the campaign, and what it says about the state of neurotech gadgets for consumers.
"Where are my testicles, Summer."
She also said that NSID shifted attention to other projects and basically forgot that it had promised to build a canine mind-reader. “We missed a lot of emails, so we’re really sorry about that,” Mazetti says. “We had a restructuring at the company, and we had an absent-minded engineer in charge.”
No, you ignored a lot of e-mails. You had people trying to contact you for two years. "Missing e-mails" is believable when it's less than five. It's really not necessary to continue lying to your backers.
"Tell me doctor, with all of your defenses, are there any provisions for an attack by killer bees?"
The reason people like dogs is that no mind-reading tool is ever necessary. It's always immediately obvious what's on their mind.
I'm not even a dog owner or dog lover and I can usually tell the difference between the "hi, let's play" bark and the "hi, I'm going to eat your face for lunch" bark. Oh, and the bark while looking at the door usually means "I need to go bend a biscuit", while hanging around the dinner bowl while barking generally translates as "feed me you ignorant bastard". That bark whenever the doorbell rings generally means "Danger, Will Robinson. Danger"!
I didn't RTFA, but it's obvious what happened. I can sum it up using two old quotes:
1) A fool and his money are soon parted
2) There's a sucker born every minute.
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You are mistaken - there was a working prototype.
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Gullibility: it has no lower limits. People that invested in this should immediately consult a doctor to see what kind of head injury they have.
And the hucksters that were supposed to build this thing made me laugh:
She also said that NSID shifted attention to other projects and basically forgot that it had promised to build a canine mind-reader.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight....they just "forgot" about that mind-reading machine they were building. Sure, that's totally believable.
Like one time I was building a nuclear-powered orbital weapons platform, I went to make a sandwich and got sidetracked, and years later I was like, "Heyyyyyyyyy, what ever happened to that orbital weapons platform I was building?"
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
I did an indiegogo in 2014, hit around 300%, bought a lathe and a drill press and a 3d printer, and delivered all the units within 90 days.
After that I decided to start selling my invention through regular channels... and discovered that crowdfunding is radioactive to investors unless you hit more than 1000%. Most people told me that what I had already invented, built, and sold was unfeasible.
One person even told me that it was unfeasible AFTER it had made a hole in his desk.
Why do grifters ruin it for the rest of us?
Liberty - Security - Laziness - Pick any two.
No More Woof sums up the current state of neurotech products intended for consumers
Why didn't they just save us all some time; instead of sugarcoating vapourware and trying to be all hip and NEUROTECH, call it SNAKE OIL like we have been for hundreds of years already.
I feel for you, that sucks. Having said that:
> Most people told me that what I had already invented, built, and sold was unfeasible.
I've owned a few companies built aroundv things I created, one that did over a million dollars in sales.
Later, I found out that I didn't own an investable business as much as I owned my JOB. My creations paid my bills for 15 years. I worked, I took home a paycheck. The question for an investor is:
If I give you a million dollars today, can I reasonably expect to get back $200,000 each year for a few years, then also get my million dollars back within five years?
The long term average in a broad-based, fairly safe mutual fund is about 9%, and you can get your investment back whenever you want to. For a risky investment in a new business to make sense, it has to offer much better than 9% returns, and the ability to get your principal back in a reasonable time frame.
Also, to "go big", I learned, you'll have much higher costs than you have as a hobby/small business. You'll need to put 25%-50% of the retail price into sales and marketing, another big chunk into taxes, admin staff, regulatory compliance, insurance, etc. So something that costs $100 to make and sells for $200 isn't viable on a large scale - to sell a shitload of them at $200 each, your marketing expenses will be at least $70 each, often more if you're going through a retailer. To go big, the item that sells for $200 better not cost more than $40-$50 to produce.
What I owned was a decent job for myself, but not a feasible investment for an investor who could instead make 9% in a much more diversified, and therefore much safer, investment. I wonder if your situation may have been similar.
They should've funded a brain-scanning gadget for Apple IIs.
https://hardware.slashdot.org/...
Crowdfunding sites like Kickstarter try to make it seem like you're pre-paying for a final product, but you're not. You're investing in a business concept - basically you're a venture capitalist. If it works, you'll get your product. if it doesn't, you'll get nothing.
Crowdfunding is actually worse than venture capitalism. With the latter, you the investor get part ownership of the company, so if it becomes successful (e.g. Oculus VR, Pebble) you share in that success. With crowdfunding, all you get is a shiny trinket. If you even get it at all. All the risk, none of the rewards.
This is why science education matters for the general population, even though most of them will never work in a scientific or engineering field. It immunises them against ridiculous claims and scams.
I'm no neurologist, but I know that EEG contacts don't work through fur - and I've seen plenty of photos of laboratory animals with shaven heads, or narrow probes that pass through the fur and through the skin in a way that most dog owners would not permit.
>"Like this brain-scanning gadget for dogs, which promised to translate their barks into human language."
It would be better if the device could convert barking desire into silence, or maybe reduce the volume by 75%.
> after it made a hole in his desk
> Still, what possesses a man to say "This thing cannot possibly work" after having seen it work?
The same thing that possesses a man to destroy his potential investor's furniture? ;) LOL
Seriously, I can only imagine your face when he said that.
And if you don't know what they're thinking when they're humping your leg, well ... maybe you need an EEG or a CT scan.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
Given that the gizmo in question is a handheld laser cutter, making a hole in the desk was intended to be impressive :) I was intending to make a hole in a piece of acrylic, but left it on a few seconds too long.
Liberty - Security - Laziness - Pick any two.
Av handheld laser cutter sounds fun. You could use it to cut a mount for itself, to mount it to a shark's head.
You do know that UBI is a libertarian proposal from the 1940's, right? And that left-wingers were opposed to it until very recently, as they thought it'd hamper the will of the proletariat to get up in arms and make a revolution, right?
Conservatives: always illiterate.
Conservatism: (n.) love of the existing evils. Liberalism: (n.) desire to substitute new evils for the existing ones.