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Every Upcoming Chromebook Will Run Android Apps (laptopmag.com)

Google announced last year that it will be bringing Android apps to Chromebooks. The company has now announced that moving forward all the new Chromebooks will have access to the Google Play Store, the marquee store for Android apps. From a report: The news comes from a single line of text in Google's list of Chromebooks that can support the programs: "All Chromebooks launching in 2017 and after as well as the Chromebooks listed below will work with Android apps in the coming future." We knew this would eventually come, and now isn't terribly surprising timing. There are more Chromebooks with touchscreens than ever, including the Asus Chromebook Flip C302CA and Samsung's upcoming Chromebook Plus and Pro, all of which were announced at CES in Las Vegas.

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  1. Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apps apping apps that app the apping appers.

    I will never by one of these limited peices of garbage.

    1. Re:Nope by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      I will never by one of these limited peices of garbage.

      Chromebooks are cheap Linux laptops without the Microsoft Tax. What's not to like, except for the lack of meta key?

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    2. Re: Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      non chromebook cheap laptops are available at the same $ with more ram & higher resolution

    3. Re:Nope by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      I'm generally finding little difference in price between Chromebooks and low end Windows laptops - compare HP's "Stream" series, for example.

      It's also a lot simpler to install Ubuntu et al on a cheap laptop built for Windows than on a Chromebook. I've done the latter, and it's an, uh, interesting experience. Having to patch the BIOS was my favorite part I think. Also awesome was the fact it forgets there's a partition with a non-ChromeOS operating system on it if the battery runs out, so you have to boot into ChromeOS and set a flag to remind it its there.

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    4. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I will never by one of these limited peices of garbage.

      Nobody cares if you do or don't.

  2. If I were Google, this is where I'd put emphasis by bogaboga · · Score: 1

    Why not make an office suite that *is8 actually a pleasure to use? I mean a suite that would give Microsoft's "365" product a run for its money?

    I am yet to find serious office users that find Google's offering that appealing. Is there any?

  3. How about running real Linux apps too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And use Google's influence to make Linux on the desktop a reality.

    1. Re:How about running real Linux apps too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      And use Google's influence to make Linux on the desktop a reality.

      You can - simply flip your Chromebook into developer mode, add the crouton extension and script, and following a few simple command line steps you can start downloading a linux chroot to run the apps you want. Best part is the ChromeOS stays up in parallel, so you can flip between your custom linux environment and the user-friendly backstop of Chrome.

    2. Re:How about running real Linux apps too by Luthair · · Score: 1

      Security. One of the nice things for normal people is that Chromebooks are largely devices they don't need to worry about.

    3. Re:How about running real Linux apps too by bazorg · · Score: 1

      ... and who's going to pay for that?

    4. Re:How about running real Linux apps too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, please. Besides games or gui widgets, the most taxing programs in linux are firefox, chromium, and gimp. Hint: chromebooks can run chrome.

    5. Re:How about running real Linux apps too by Luthair · · Score: 1

      One of the biggest sources of problems is people arbitrarily (or being tricked) into downloading stuff and running it.

    6. Re:How about running real Linux apps too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... and who's going to pay for that?

      Haven't you been paying attention, Mexico is going to pay for everything and it will be yuge.

    7. Re:How about running real Linux apps too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well if you're okay reporting every single thing you do back to Google, then you don't have anything to worry about.

    8. Re:How about running real Linux apps too by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't say they're simple steps, and Crouton suffers from trying to run both operating systems at once, which can only be done by heavily patching the "guest" operating system, which in turn means only supported revisions of specific distributions are supported - and the only in some configurations. Want to run Cinnamon? Don't even try.

      (There's also very little reason to suppose this provides any real benefits to users either. Why would you want ChromeOS if you're already running Ubuntu? ChromeOS is bare bones GNU/Linux with Chrome as the UI, and Chrome runs fine under Ubuntu.)

      Crouton exists mostly because it's awkward to install a "real" Ubuntu instance on a Chromebook, and so the authors figured that maybe getting bits to Ubuntu to work under the already running ChromeOS kernel might be "good enough". It's an illustration of the problems with Chromebooks, not indicative that Google has some kind of solution to "Linux on the desktop".

      I'm not saying Chromebooks are bad, or even that you shouldn't buy one to run Ubuntu/etc (but use chrx, and be aware that the experience of installation is suboptimal, requiring BIOS patches and barely documented control key combinations at boot) - they can run more open distributions of GNU/Linux, and if you like the hardware, then go for it. But this "Crouton proves its awesome" stuff is overblown. Crouton is a smart, interesting, hack to workaround a problem, but it's probably not going to deliver what the average "I want to run Fedora/Ubuntu/Mint/Debian/CentOS" Slashdot GNU/Linux user wants.

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  4. Re:If I were Google, this is where I'd put emphasi by Khyber · · Score: 1

    Nope, Google's offering is not appealing as you never know when they'll stop supporting it. I'd prefer open source office software suites to anything Google might put out.

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  5. FUD from Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just as MS used to be accused of FUD when they'd claim to do something with their OS, until Google ships this in something other than a dev-channel build it is just FUD.

    I've been waiting months to try Android apps on a supposedly supported model of Chromebook in beta channel. Still no love. FUD until it ships, attempting to deter people from purchasing a device that does what they want by suggesting theirs will do it soon.

    1. Re:FUD from Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just as MS used to be accused of FUD when they'd claim to do something with their OS, until Google ships this in something other than a dev-channel build it is just FUD.

      I've been waiting months to try Android apps on a supposedly supported model of Chromebook in beta channel. Still no love. FUD until it ships, attempting to deter people from purchasing a device that does what they want by suggesting theirs will do it soon.

      FUD, You keep using that word, I dont think it means what you think it means.

    2. Re:FUD from Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ELMER

    3. Re:FUD from Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FUD = Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. It is used to refer to a company that makes people question its competitors by suggesting that there are problems with their products.

      What you are probably looking for is Vaporware.

    4. Re:FUD from Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mine's been out of beta for months. There's a difference between "supposedly supported" and supported models. It has shipped.

  6. More ways to spy on you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    That is all.

  7. Re:If I were Google, this is where I'd put emphasi by CrankyFool · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We're #379 on the Fortune 500 with approximately 3000 employees, and aside from tiny enclaves everyone uses Google Office. I don't know that I'd say that we actually enjoy it, or that it's a pleasure to use, but honestly I don't actually know anyone who'd say that about Microsoft's product either :)

  8. Found the LUDDITE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LUDDITE Linux doesn't run appy app apps! It only runs LUDDITE software!

    Only appy apperating apps like Appdroid can app apps!

    Apps!

    1. Re:Found the LUDDITE! by Mr_Trebuchet · · Score: 1

      LUDDITE Linux doesn't run appy app apps! It only runs LUDDITE software!

      There is a flavor of Linux devoted to smashing large format knitting frames? How oddly specialized. But then again, I guess Open Source software is truly extensible to meet user needs, so why not?

  9. The Coming Future? by sjritt00 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Too far out. I guess it is better than the retreating future. Let me know when they can narrow it down to the present future.

    1. Re:The Coming Future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please accept these keys.
          They belonged to my future self but haven't used them since last year. I am certain you will enjoy the ride!

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  10. Good luck with that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't see where a glorified cell phone is gonna have the CPU juice to run a full fledged program made for desktop Linux.

    1. Re:Good luck with that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know it is a shame to counter opinion with facts, but you do know that Chromebooks are essentially low-to-mid-end laptops and not glorified smartphones, don't you? There are even a few very high-end ones with i7 processors.

      Crouton works really well, its just a shame that you need to install all the underlying OS software just to be able to launch Linux software when ChromeOS is essentially running a linux kernel and standard libraries. It really wastes space on the small SSD, but it is a great feature nonetheless.

    2. Re:Good luck with that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is 2017, nobody uses full fledged programs. Just thousands of silly little apps that are nothing more than web wrappers for stupid services idiots are brainwashed to use. /s

    3. Re:Good luck with that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > have the CPU juice to run a full fledged program made for desktop Linux.

      The CPU would struggle to run Windows, but Linux and full fledged programs don't put high demands on the CPU. It is the telemetry, anti-virus, and other stuff that sucks the usability out of Windows.

    4. Re:Good luck with that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is the telemetry, anti-virus, and other stuff that sucks the usability out of Windows.

      Yeah, tell me about it. I've been using Linux since 2007 and haven't used a Windows device for as long and on a lark I bought a Surface Pro 4 from Costco recently.

      Bear in mind, this thing has a Skylake i5 and 1500 MB/s NVME storage. Despite this, my Thinkpad T420s with a Sandy Bridge i5 and Samsung 850 Evo SSD blows it away in program start-up and overall snappiness. This is with the same programs. Heavy-weights like Eclipse, Gimp, and Chrome start almost instantly on Linux yet when I click the icon on Windows, sometimes I wonder if I actually hit it right as the program is taking so long.

      Somehow, the few instances I've used Windows 7, I don't recall it being this slow. Also, Linux desktop Linux didn't used to have this advantage so whatever happened really gave it a kick in the pants. I'll probably just install Ubuntu or Mint on this Surface and call it a day. It really is excruciating using Windows after experiencing the speed of Linux.

    5. Re:Good luck with that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, U series i7 CPUs that are just as weak as Atom CPUs.

  11. Re:If I were Google, this is where I'd put emphasi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can you please tell me what company that is (fourtune.com only gives top 20)?

    I'd like to know so that I may avoid buying any of your products or applying for employment. Unless your principal revenue source is the taxpayer, you guys won't be around much longer.

  12. Re:If I were Google, this is where I'd put emphasi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Agreed, but in a larger sense I find it baffling that Google is so scared to take on MS. They're content to keep their main efforts (Android, Docs) small and limited in scope, even though they have large user bases in absolute numbers.

    How many people, when buying a laptop, are seriously considering a Chromebook or Andoird tablet + keyboard and mouse? Talk to people about Docs, and you hear a lot of horror stories about missing functionality that they think "should" be in office suite, plus the endless fears that the platform will suddenly be orphaned.

    Google could take on MS, make everyone's life better, and make more freaking money, but they seem scared to do so.

  13. Google Store? What About F-Droid? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    F-Droid capable or no deal.

    1. Re:Google Store? What About F-Droid? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can sideload on an unlocked Chromebook.

  14. all ***NEW*** chromebooks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the same nonsense that Apple did when it moved to Intel; despite the fact that most *existing* Chromebooks are perfectly capable of running any emulation layer, people will be forced to shell out for "new" Chromebook if they want to take advantage The Latest and Greatest "apps".

    1. Re:all ***NEW*** chromebooks by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      "Latest and Greatest" followed by "apps" does not compute.

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    2. Re:all ***NEW*** chromebooks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > people will be forced to shell out for "new" Chromebook if they want to take advantage The Latest and Greatest "apps".

      Whereas Windows XP and 7 users can already run all The Latest and Greatest UWPs. Oh, wait, there aren't any.

  15. I see a problem with this by slashmydots · · Score: 2

    Oh good, now I can run all those mobile apps which almost universally require a touchscreen and tilt sensors, which chromebooks don't typically have.

    1. Re:I see a problem with this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the "new" chromebooks will all have the sensor pack, not sure about touchscreens; but it seems like a great opportunity for someone to make a 3rd party USB dongle that incorporates these capabilities for an instant upgrade to "ChromeDroid".

      I really want Android support enabled for the Toshiba Chromebook 2 models!

    2. Re:I see a problem with this by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      It gets worse considering most developers never thought about supporting anything bigger than a ~5" screen. It reminds me of when the first iPad came out and a lot of the apps were just stretched out phone apps, which made them ever worse to use since different buttons would be at far-flung corners of the screen that's no longer within convenient range.

    3. Re:I see a problem with this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It reminds me of when the first iPad came out and a lot of the apps were just stretched out phone apps

      That's kind of like saying "It reminds me when color TV first came out and a lot of shows were just black and white". We've come a long way since the days of non-scaling apps on a very limited selection of screen sizes.

    4. Re:I see a problem with this by l20502 · · Score: 1

      Even cheap HP laptops have sensors that combined with their crappy windows utilities should park the disk heads.
      On linux they appear as a standard joystick which can be used to do anything.

    5. Re:I see a problem with this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > ever worse to use since different buttons would be at far-flung corners of the screen that's no longer within convenient range.

      Alternately, you could actually learn something about how Android apps are implemented on Chromebooks rather than blathering fake news or 'alternate facts':

      https://developer.android.com/topic/arc/screen-size-comp.html

  16. Re:If I were Google, this is where I'd put emphasi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://beta.fortune.com/fortune500/netflix-379

  17. Re:If I were Google, this is where I'd put emphasi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am yet to find serious office users that find Google's offering that appealing.

    If you are a serious user the barrier to give up what you know is quite high. Anything google puts out that doesn't mimic office down to the menu structure and icon placement would be hard to sell them.

  18. Eclipse app and a usable terminal app by SpaghettiPattern · · Score: 1

    The Eclipse app and a usable terminal app and I'm good to go. And a 17'' screen of course.

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  19. In the 5 min before installing a proper Linux dist by tomxor · · Score: 0

    Seriously I though the only interest in chromebooks was Linux users who want a cheap netbook subsidised by Google... Do mythical end users actually consume these devices?

  20. Re:If I were Google, this is where I'd put emphasi by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

    Well, you are Netflix so you would expect everyone to use web based technologies and keep their data in the cloud.

    We are not a Fortune 500 company but I try to use Google as much as possible because it eliminates compatibility issues. We have some spreadsheets that do engineering and software development calculations, for example.

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  21. Re:If I were Google, this is where I'd put emphasi by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

    You can also install LibreOffice on chromebooks if you want a local office toolkit.

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  22. Re:If I were Google, this is where I'd put emphasi by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

    You seriously think Google is going to drop Docs?

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  23. Re:If I were Google, this is where I'd put emphasi by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

    And why is that exactly? Please spell out precisely why using Google Docs will lead to this company's demise?

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  24. Chrome OS Systems Support link by technix4beos · · Score: 1

    Since the article has a broken link to Google's page, here is where Google actually makes this claim: https://sites.google.com/a/chr...

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  25. Re:If I were Google, this is where I'd put emphasi by alvinrod · · Score: 1

    I think the bigger concern is where the data is being stored and who has access. For some documents there's no way in hell that a company would want them to be stored on someone else's servers or having Google's analytics bots looking at the documents even if human eyes will never see it. I don't know if Google sells the ability to install their office software on the company's own hardware, but I suspect that if they keep developing the product they'll get around to it eventually once they decide to go the same service contract / subscription model route that a lot of other companies are using.

  26. Re:If I were Google, this is where I'd put emphasi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google Office is the best alternative to Office. It's perfect for students or people who just occasionally use Office, which is probably 97% of the population. Much better than LibreOffice, where you're constantly struggling against the program.

    Apple's suite is also OK - same idea as Google Docs, it's basic but "good enough" for most people. It's very easy to make a basic, good looking slide in their Powerpoint wannabe, and compatibility with MS Office is pretty good for basic files.

  27. ARM Chromebooks? by unixisc · · Score: 1

    If this is the plan, then can't they make Chromebooks even cheaper by making them from ARM CPUs, and maybe up the RAM and storage a tad?

    1. Re:ARM Chromebooks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > can't they make Chromebooks even cheaper by making them from ARM CPUs,

      What makes you think that many existing and past Chromebooks are not ARM CPUs?

    2. Re:ARM Chromebooks? by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      The first Chromebook was on ARM I think. Another one had the Celeron 847 (x86, sandy bridge, dual core dual thread), it was the Acer C7. Real hard drive (320GB), 2GB built-in RAM and a SO-DIMM slot where you can drop another 4GB or 8GB. So regarding cost (sort of), storage and RAM this little thing did it a bit over 4 years ago.

    3. Re:ARM Chromebooks? by unixisc · · Score: 1

      I visited Best Buy today and went to the Chromebook section. I saw offerings from Acer, Asus and Samsung, and all of them were based on either the i3 or the Atom or some other Intel CPU, not ARMs.

  28. Re:If I were Google, this is where I'd put emphasi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    google should make android a desktop OS. Emulate arm and atom on x86 and see m$ evil empire crumble lol...

  29. less confusion by smithcl8 · · Score: 2

    If nothing else, at least this will eliminate some confusion in terms of selling Chromebooks. Most of the folks I recommend them for are basic users anyway, and many of them have smartphones already. Having to explain that they can't run the same Android apps as they can on their phones, when both devices have something to do with Google, is a pain.

  30. Re:In the 5 min before installing a proper Linux d by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chromebook sales in schools is massive these days.

    http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/19/11711714/chromebooks-outsold-macs-us-idc-figures

  31. Re:If I were Google, this is where I'd put emphasi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know, if they made a desktop OS with the core that Android uses, this could be its year!

  32. Re:If I were Google, this is where I'd put emphasi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With the obnoxious political vitriol you spew around here, how are you even employable? It must be a real bitch keeping a lid on that shit in real life. Autism sucks, right?

  33. Re: If I were Google, this is where I'd put emphas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Republitard much?

  34. Re: If I were Google, this is where I'd put emphas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your impotent tears are delicious.

  35. Re:If I were Google, this is where I'd put emphasi by Khyber · · Score: 1

    Given the still-shitty importation and no signs of it improving any time soon? Yes.

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  36. privacy problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Until now, Chromebooks:
      - offered multiprofile, so you could sign into a chromebook with several Google accounts at once, and it would keep these accounts as separate from the perspective of external websites and apps as two different chromebooks behind the same NAT
      - refused to serve any unclearable evercookie like "mac address", "serial number", or "phone number" to remote apps or servers, even in DRM context. You can always clear cookies and create a new account.

    Android doesn't offer these privacy promises and creates an ecosystem similar to a GPS tracking bracelet. For example, governments enforcing regulations against Uber have to buy burner Android phones and throw them out to make new Uber accounts and avoid the company's attempts to evade.

    Android-on-ChromeOS doesn't work with multiprofile. I can't figure out if Google has "compromised" on ChromeOS's other security promises because they don't publicize this stuff clearly enough.

  37. Re:If I were Google, this is where I'd put emphasi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And why is that exactly? Please spell out precisely why using Google Docs will lead to this company's demise?

    Not the previous poster, but I can at least explain the logic (if not the hyperbole).

    We still live, like it or not, in a Microsoft world. This means that the vast, vast majority of documents shuffled around between businesses and users are going to be in a MS Office format, whether it's .doc or .xls or anything else. Compatibility with these documents is extremely important, and not just because of formatting issues but also data loss that can result from an incomplete parsing of the format (issues which I've had with both LibreOffice AND Google Docs). If you insist on relying only on Google Docs for documents in a format that only the source of the format can read with 100% compatibility, then on a long-enough time-span, you're gonna run into trouble.

    In other words, if this bumfuck of a company is making software decisions based on ideology instead of practicality (or are just made up of young people who have no experience with how the real world works yet), then this kind of failure in through processes is going to permeate to other areas of the business, run more by ideology rather than wisdom.