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Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella Says PC Market Is Finally Stabilizing (fortune.com)
In a call with analysts on Thursday, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella said the consumer PC market is finally stabilizing after being in a long decline. His statement echoes a recent report by International Data Corporation in which the market research firm said it was optimistic that the PC market would rebound this year after five years of contraction as people switched to mobile devices. Fortune reports: Nadella, however, did not cite specific numbers showing that the consumer PC market was rallying. He merely said that video gamers seem to be buying high-end computers loaded with Microsoft's Windows 10 operating system, raising hope of an overall recovery in the PC market. Additionally, Nadella said that businesses are increasingly upgrading to Windows 10, which is noteworthy because several other third-party research firms said in November that Windows 10 adoption numbers seemed low. "I think the overall adoption cycle of Windows 10 in the enterprise is perhaps the best we have seen for any new release of Windows," Nadella said. Still, Microsoft's personal computing business unit that includes Windows 10 dropped 5% year-over-year in the latest quarter to $11.8 billion. Still, the unit's revenue was better than what the company had originally projected because of an unexpected uptick in Windows 10 sales, said chief financial officer Amy Hood. Microsoft said that the money it collects from sales of Windows by other PC makers rose 5% in the latest quarter, which Nadella said highlights an "improving commercial PC market and enterprise demand." Nadella said that computer manufacturers that use Windows are seeing an uptick in sales of high-end PCs. He took credit for the rise by saying that the Surface blazed the trail for other manufacturers to create similar devices, which are selling well. "The enterprise adoption of these new devices is driving the all around excitement of Windows 10," Nadella said.
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"I think the overall adoption cycle of Windows 10 in the enterprise is perhaps the best we have seen for any new release of Windows,"
Is that you, Mr. President?
you mean "bottoming out" then you might just be right for a change. the only people (customers) left are those who don't want the limited capability and form factor of a tablet or phone.
but until you get your grubby greedy hands off of users' data and lives, and return control over their computers back to them, you will NOT see a single penny of new sales from us.
** microsoft account needed for office, even to just install? (or subscribe? hell fucking no.) nope, free programs exist that work just fine for us... until part two (below) is complete, that is.
** privacy snooping, program breaking, computer breaking updates forced down our throats? windows update crippled and broken since xp days just to "encourage" windows 10 adoption (in which updates is just as broken.. failed updates redownloading constantly, chewing up bandwidth even 'metered' wifi). cant set a wired connection as 'metered' even though many have just that. usage limits? nope, migrating everything possible to linux as i type. and we have contingencies already in place for keeping needed, existing windows 7 and 8 but pulling them offline once they get forced into retirement. same thing we went through with xp. WE WILL NEVER USE WINDOWS 10. PERIOD. NO EXCEPTION. we don't want "apps" or an "app store", we want APPLICATIONS. we don't want "the cloud" bullshit either.
consoles? fuck that, you lost that battle. phones? tablets? nope. sorry, you lose here too, big time.
Reading through Nadella's comments ... the only thing I can conclude is that he's delusional and somehow believes that Microsoft can still dominate everything through sheer chutzpah and say-so. "Black is white," Nadella said, "and we're confident that in the future, green will be yellow."
Only apps can app apps, NOT LUDDITE software like LUDDITE Linux!
Apps!
No more wild gyrations after that.
Yeah, let me tell you about how the 'adoption' occurred around here at a certain microprocessor manufacturer once responsible for a certain infamous floating point bug: They literally bricked our Windows 7 computers remotely, and when we went for support and a fix, were told we had to upgrade to Windows 10. There was LITERALLY no reason otherwise; they invalidated the drive encryption password, and lied through their teeth to us that it was a 'bug', there was no fix, and that we HAD to get Windows 10. Turns out they're just as fascist as Microsoft is. Fuck them, fuck Microsoft, and fuck Windows 10, it's taken me TWO WEEKS to sanitize this turd of an OS to the point where I feel it's safe and usable.
Microsoft and replaced with a damn lawyer, I don't think his opinion has much merit.
Even after they strongarmed every Win7/8/8.1 PC to update to 10? Dang what were they hoping for exactly
"WE WILL NEVER USE WINDOWS 10. PERIOD. NO EXCEPTION. "
There goes AC, being excessively positive.
Not just "Never use Windows 10". We demand that all abusive, ignorant, socially-challenged Microsoft managers be fired.
They basically made huge stuff ups with Windows 8, and Windows 10. They continue to rally behind these monumental fuck ups instead of admitting they got it wrong. Windows 10 is a piece of rubbish.. its based on windows 8 which was a complete joke of an operating system. They need to admit they got it wrong, they should stop spying on people and bring out windows os based on Windows 7. They also need to stop pissing off administrators and tech people.. we are the ones who the consumers ask for advice.
cant set a wired connection as 'metered' even though many have just that
Such as a home LAN with a satellite upstream or the USB tethering of many smartphones, which appears to the PC as an Ethernet adapter. But there is a registry tweak to set the media cost of Ethernet in Windows 8 and 10. In case that document disappears, here's a summary:
1. In HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\NetworkList\DefaultMediaCost, grant ownership and Full Control permission to the local Administrators group.
2. Change the Ethernet value from 1 (meaning unmetered) to 2 (metered).
...and we saw how that turned out!
I think the concept of the "Home" computer has pretty much died. Students need something to do assignments, people working in offices need something for work. That is pretty much it. Then to make it worse, other than fashonistas and a much narrower group of professionals who need powerful computers there is only a tiny audience of gamers who need the latest and greatest.
.net enterprise sales people forcing the entire microsoft ecosystem down our throats. The useless programmers adopted .net and went to work for government and big companies. The real programmers went elsewhere.
Just about everyone else will direct their disposable technology budget to a kick ass new phone.
If you look at the needs of the average "home" user it would range from nothing to 10 year old laptop or $200 chromebook type thing.
So yes the bleed has stabilized and probably will remain this way for 5-10 years at least.
I suspect that this is why MS is catering to programmers. They are one of the bastions of professional users who also create products for other professional users. If they programmers all go to linux and mac then there is going to be a trend to more and more professional products on those platforms.
This is a huge breath of fresh air where Microsoft spent a huge amount of energy trying to turn programmers into
Now the real programmers are sniffing around Visual Studio as it kicks some serious ass and is getting better every day.
I suspect that this is why MS is catering to programmers.
are you talking about when they put a phone interface on a server operating system?
or are you talking about the bewildering and ridiculous api functions we programmers must use to make windows do what we want?
or are you just really stupid?
Keep chasin' those unicorns...
The only people who actually listen to Nadella are those who drank the KoolAid, liked it, and drank lots more. His pronouncements are both smarmy and mostly free of anything important, credible, interesting, or even amusing. With Ballmer, at least one could occasionally grab a bag of popcorn and watch the show. By comparison, Nadella is a windbag and a walking, talking yawnfest. Does he provide anything for Microsoft that couldn't be had from the combined talents of a department store mannequin and a platitude-filled voice recorder?
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We just stopped buying PCs every year because you give us no reason to. Both the hardware and the software guys. Bring back 30% increases in performance between CPU generations and you'll see people buying PCs more often again.
He is a guy responsible for Windows 10, including its marketing strategies.
To me, he is officially a moron. Why should I care about what he says or does? At least Bill Gates was evil genius. Ballmer was evil something else. But this guy... is wishy-woshy half-here half-there something else.
are retards.
Can I finally start a side-business building people desktops, then? Because I don't think that's feasible and it's quite likely those days will never return.
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for the first time in years you can build a decent gaming rig for under $1000. Heck, even if AMD Zen doesn't deliver the G4560 will be a big shot in the arm. Combine that with itty bitty low power 1050 tis from nVidia and you've got a viable gaming PC for around $500 (including a legit copy of Windows, drop that to $400 if you've got a copy to spare). From there you can swap out processors and video cards at your leisure until you've got content.
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