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New Data Shows 85% of Humans Live Under a Corrupt Government (newatlas.com)

schwit1 writes: According to one think tank that studies corruption in government, 85% of the world lives under governments that are essentially corrupt. New Atlas reports: "'Corruption' is defined by Transparency International (TI) as 'the abuse of entrusted power for private gain.' Each year since 1995, TI has published a Corruption Perceptions Index that scores the world's nations out of 100 for their public sector honesty and the just-released 2016 report paints the same bleak picture we've been seeing now for two decades except it's getting worse. According to the data, despite the illusion of elected government in half the world's countries, democracy is losing. Only two countries scored 90 out of 100 this year, and just 54 of the 176 countries (30%) assessed in the report scored better than 50. Fifty percent might have constituted a pass in a High School arithmetic test, but for an elected government to be so inept at carrying out the will of the electorate, it is a clear betrayal of the people. The average country score this year is a paltry 43, indicating endemic corruption in a country's public sector is the norm. Even more damning is that more countries declined than improved in this year's results. Our analysis of TI's data shows 85 percent of human beings are governed by regimes that score 50 or less, indicating that the integrity of people in authority across the globe remains sadly lacking." schwit1 notes: "Not surprisingly, the countries at the bottom of the list are almost all Middle Eastern nations, all of whom are the source of most of the world's terrorism and Islamic madness. The few others are those trying to become communist paradises, Venezuela and North Korea." New Atlas also mentions "the latest update of the Economist Intelligence Unit's Democracy Index, released on the same day as the Transparency International report, reflects an almost identical perspective. The EIU Democracy Index measures the state of democracy in 167 countries and the average global score fell from 5.55 out of 10 in 2015 to 5.52 in 2016, with 72 countries recording a lower score versus 38 which showed an improvement. You can register for free and download the EIU report here."

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  1. Does this include the USA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Because, as of January of 2017, it should.

  2. Re:US degraded from full democracy in 2016 ?!?! by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 4, Informative

    According to the report they degraded the USA from "full democracy" to "flawed democracy" in 2016 due to events happening in the country.

    This seems contradictory to Trump's announcement to clean up with the corruption in Washington, and to "dry up the swamp". Also, what is more like a democracy, a country where the mainstream media always totally agree with the government, or one in which the government has to fight the media? Isn't it a great thing that media stops believing and printing the statements of the government as facts and starts creating fact checking teams?

    You see the "correct" cannidate lost and but would (might have hypothitcly) have won if the rules were changed different AND the cannidates campaigned the same. So Obviously it had nothing to do with the Correct cannidate being a uncharismatic unexciting corupt crook that would be a rerun of the same administration from the 90s without the womanising and charisma of their other half. So because NY and CA didn't get their way we are a broken democracy.

    (I didn't vote for trump or clinton but I did vote)

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  3. That's stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    America was never a full democracy, it is and always has been a republic, and the difference fucking matters.

    It has also been deeply flawed for a very long time. The democratic process is largely smoke-and-mirrors now, with a group of wealthy elites calling the shots.

    Trump winning the presidency is an amazing about-face on that front, with the will of voters actually being imposed upon the established power base despite its preferences. Yes, I know Trump lost the popular vote. No, that isn't what I am talking about. Skip the pedantry and semantics and my meaning will become clear...Trump wasn't just an upset for democrats and liberals, Trump was also an upset for the established crop of power-holders, and THAT is the unusual result.

    Trump's victory doesn't make this democracy flawed. The flaws are deeper, and older, and I am pretty sure Trump won't be able to fix them even if he tries.

  4. Re:Something wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    With a score of 47, Italy ties with Cuba. That seems very unlikely.

    I'm assuming that you think Italy should be higher. I read somewhere that the #1 occupation in Rome was pickpocket. Also, Italy is pretty much home to the original mafia. Oh, and let's not forget about all the corruption in the Catholic Church. I can very much see Italy tied with Cuba.

  5. Re:Something wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Berlusconi gets away with things that even the Castros would blush at.

  6. Re:not why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's a lot easier to have national unity when there are only 6 million or less people in each country. Fun little thing from a google search. Search "nordic countries by population" and you'll get.

    The population (as estimated by the World Factbook in July of 2014) of all of the Nordic countries combined—Denmark (5,569,077), Finland (5,268,799), Iceland (317,351), Norway (5,147,792), and Sweden (9,723,809)—is roughly equal to the population of Texas.Aug 29, 2014

    We have counties in particular states with more people then any single country mentioned above.

  7. Re:Well, I live in Quebec by ems2004 · · Score: 1, Informative

    But you have not seen the level of corruption in countries like India, Pakistan etc. The reason western countries are declining in the index is because of corruption import from those countries... you may find my comment as racist but I am from that part of the world so ...take it easy.

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  8. Re:Singapore near the top? by Qzukk · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is the country where you get arrested for chewing gum and not flushing the toilet and the death sentence for drug possession

    What's corrupt about that? Corrupt would be if the rich could buy indulgences for their chewing gum, or they were paying people to gun down suspected drug dealers without a trial. You can argue whether these laws are a good idea, but if they're applied evenly and properly, they're not "corrupt".

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  9. Re:shocked...shocked I say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Have you opened a bank account, or purchased real estate in China? Or become a Chinese citizen? Heard of any foreigner becoming a Chinese citizen?

    ("The 2000 Chinese census counted just 941 naturalized citizens.")

  10. Electoral College history by mx+b · · Score: 5, Informative

    Institutions like the Electoral College were meant to be a check against the stupidity of the masses that might elect a Trump.

    That's not entirely accurate. This history of it is a bit more nuanced. Effectively, the larger northern colonies that opposed slavery would have always won the presidency against the smaller southern states that wanted to maintain slavery. Southern states were afraid that in a pure democracy (one person, one vote), the north would always win elections and therefore set the agenda and force them to do things against their will: in particular, force them to give up slavery. Several states refused to sign on to the new Constitution if it was set up this way. So the compromise was to allow an electoral college, House by population by an equal vote for each state in Senate, to make it more "fair" toward the south so they would agree to it.

    If that didn't happen, the US would have remained under the Articles of Confederation, which was too weak to really hold the nation together. The Confederation did not give Congress authority to do many things that were discovered required during the Revolutionary War. To some degree, Congress acted out of the bounds of law (their mandate from the states) to continue the war and draft the Constitution in the first place; they were initially only to make some minor changes to the Confederation, but majority of delegates decided that wouldn't be enough on their own.

    To be fair, there was certainly fear from some early leaders about pure democracy, equating it to effectively mob rule. There were also concerns that foreign entities (particularly British spies at the time) would attempt to influence our elections. But the anti-federalists were very strongly pro-democracy. The federalists won the battle of words in the constitution at first, but the Federalist party quickly died out and was replaced by the anti-federalists under Jefferson. The anti-federalists splintered into today's Republican and Democratic parties. So effectively, most of our history has been very democratic and states' rights, even if some (not all) of founders thought closer to what you think.

    But idiots clamored for more power by virtue of their numbers. So state governments neutered their own congressional delegations by requiring that they vote for the popular choice.

    The result? Trump. And people clamoring for more democracy.

    The history of the the 17th amendment is also complex. In a nutshell, the people clamored for direct election to stop corruption. Prior to this, the state legislators chose Senators, which as you can guess meant they were very prone to bribery and intimidation to get certain people selected for the Senate. Also, it was easy for state legislatures to get stuck without choosing anyone because of political infighting, meaning that some states would often not be represented in the Senate for lengths of time while state legislatures argued.

    It was an interesting idea, but didn't appear to work out that great in practice, so we changed it. As the Constitution was specifically written to do, via amendments.

    I think we need to continue the fight against corruption by opening our system up to even more democratic measures. Much corruption comes today from our laws effectively requiring a two-party political system (so many committees require equal numbers of GOP and Dems, for example, as if those parties were written into the constitution; they weren't, and in fact a good chunk of the Federalist Papers goes on about how corruption and political parties are the worst things that could happen to our country). I think changing to a different voting method (Approval, Score, or Ranked Choice Voting) would eliminate the "spoiler" effect and allow citizens to vote for who they actually think is the best for the job, and not just to "stop" the "other" candidate.

  11. Re: Trolling in the summary by ph1ll · · Score: 4, Informative

    Good point. Also, Western corruption is formalized - see "Deferred Prosecution Agreements". Want to money launder for the Mexican drug cartels without anybody going to prison (HSBC)? No problem, just pay this fee. Want to bribe Asian officials and business men (Rolls Royce)? Naughty boy, just deposit this money into the UK government's bank account. Want to fraudulently issue ratings on what banks are selling (pretty much all credit rating companies pre 2008) while those banks pay you? Failure of the free market. Sure it's not your fault etc etc.

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  12. Re:not why by allcoolnameswheretak · · Score: 1, Informative

    Kanada (35m population) and Germany (83m population) and Great Britain (64m population) are also social welfare states with low corruption.

  13. Re:Trolling in the summary by Shane_Optima · · Score: 3, Informative

    There's a rather big difference between someone successfully building an industry and the government then simply stealing it from him (i.e. nationalization), and the government setting up its own industry especially since in the case of Norway where said industry ensures that the natural wealth of Norway benefits everyone in the country, instead of just a handful of very rich people.

    What is the verb or adjective to describe an industry that the government controls but hasn't 'stolen' if not "nationalize[d]"?

    Also, that appears to be a false dichotomy since apparently the oil industry in Norway is a publicly traded company and the Norwegian government only owns 65% of it. This implies an obvious non-theft path to nationalization for an industry that for-profit entity has built up: buy them out. Eminent domain for things other than land is an interesting topic that doesn't come up nearly enough.