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LG Confirms 5K Mac Monitor Has Issue When Placed Near a Router, Says New Batch To Have Enhanced Shielding (recode.net)
Late last month, we learned that LG's UltraFine 5K Display, which was designed in part by Apple to work with the new MacBook Pro and as a replacement for the Thunderbolt Display, would flicker, disconnect, or freeze computers if placed within two meters of a router. The company has acknowledged the issue, and says it will add enhanced shielding to its 5K monitors to prevent interferences with nearby wireless routers in the upcoming batch. From a report: "LG apologizes for this inconvenience and is committed to delivering the best quality products possible, so all LG UltraFine 27-inch 5K displays manufactured after February 2017 will be fitted with enhanced shielding," the company said in an email. Existing models will be able to be retrofitted with the enhanced shielding, which will allow the monitor to be placed near a router.
Existing models will be able to be retrofitted with the enhanced shielding, which will allow the monitor to be placed near a router.
For a fee.. on a $1000 piece of hardware that we engineered poorly. Fuck off with that.
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5k more fakes news stories for you. Shields up.
All this time I thought Wireless Access Points were the problem. My bad.
That word coming from any business, large or small, just makes me f**king livid. I've paid money for a working thing/service. This isn't an inconvenience, this is me losing my hard-earned money on something that doesn't work. The proper response is: Send back your old monitor and we'll send you a new one, on us.
Two meters is a pretty large distance.
Are they implying there was any kind of shielding on the failed series ?
Retrofitted sounds like 'we will add the missing part'.
Irrelevant news and morons using moderation to mod down what they disagree on. 2018 resolution: so long.
How on earth did this ever pass EMC testing (or the UL equivalent)?!
The company I worked for spent a small fortune modifying all our designs back in 1999 to be immune to external RF interference (and likewise to generate none) in order to pass those tests, how the hell could something like this happen in this day and age?
Its the budget version of 8k. You can optionally add the extra 3k later.
I'm sick of the generalization that all Wireless access points are "routers".
They're ROUTERS if they ROUTE between two different networks. If they are simply an access point to which you connect your wireless device to a wired network, they are referred to "ACCESS POINTS". Yes, some WAPs have routing functionality as well, along with a built-in switch, firewalling ability, blah blah blah. Doesn't make all WAPs "Wireless Routers" though.
I guess that kind of thing doesn't matter these days anymore though. Get the fuck off my lawn. Now you LOOK AT ME WHEN I'M TALKING TO YOU!
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
I'll settle for 4K, but with 16:10 aspect ratio.
3840x2400
as far as enhanced shielding, they could reconfigure the main deflector grid to emit an inverse tachyon pulse...
Did Apple try one of these things before recommending it, highlighting it in the MPB rollout?
People sometimes have their wifi router sitting behind their monitor. Hell, I bought a couple of add on shelves for an Apple monitor so my cable modem and wifi router are literally sitting on the back of the the monitor. Pretty damn convenient for keeping crap off the desk.
This is an Apple failure in part, not solely LG's.
Everyone who bought one already are suckers and SOL.
I did a whole bunch of research prior to upgrading my computer at work, and it's clear that Apple has *really* botched their latest Macbooks. We're already, what? 5 months post release and the number of available USB-C devices are laughably small. Which I guess makes sense, since they are too damn cheap to provide a sufficient number of USB-C ports on the machines themselves. If you're going to produce a laptop that is essentially useless without an entire drawer-full of external adapters, then you need to have a full lineup of those friggin adapters, hubs, docking stations, etc.
If that wasn't bad enough, the stuff that does exist are garbage. For example, look at the reviews for the HDMI USB-C connector. 1/5. The thing loses connection if you so much as look at it wrong.
And now this nonsense with a $1300 monitor that was explicitly recommended by Apple.
This is flat out unacceptable. Period. The whole point of paying the Apple premium is that you have assurance that everything Just Works(tm). Apparently Apple doesn't care about that anymore.
So my final decision was to buy a refurb of last years model. I get to reuse the existing hoard of adapters I already have, and it still has a normal USB port, magsafe power, HDMI and an SD card slot.
Dear Apple customer, you should have known that Apple computers emit strong electro-magnetic brain-control waves, which might interfere with non-Apple-products which were not hardened against this radiation. Thus, please equip your LG monitor with a tin foil head for undisturbed function. And don't you dare putting one on your head as well!
I'll settle for one of these with the fault, for 1/3rd the normal price of course.
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I'm sitting less than 2 meters from an access point mounted on the wall behind my desk. I guess I should not buy one of these monitors until LG gets their $hit together.
They should recall all of these defective monitors and either repair or replace them.
Apple needs to apply pressure here. They discontinued their 27" Thunderbolt monitors, and decided that it wasn't worth their time to replace the item. They pushed their customers to this half-assed contraption.
We buy lots of mac stuff but I'm glad we waited on these new MacBook pros and LG monitors.
No, crashing macs when connecting to an external, but recommended, display is apple's fault. But shoddily made hardware sold by a different company is most certain not Apple's fault. Although they will get deservedly hammered for it anyway.
When you shut down your own display line and **recommend** a particular 3rd party make/model as the premier display for your new line of computers, yes, you deserve to get hammered.
If you want to keep normal "monitor" DPIs while taking the size to 27 inch or so you end up at about 2.5K pixels wide.
Now double the DPI so you can render modern apps in high DPI while rendering legacy apps with pixel doubling and you end up at about 5K pixels wide.
note: i'm known as plugwash most places but i screwd up registering that here somehow in the past and now can't register
Its 5K with room for a GUI when making 4K movies.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Let's say it together: "Wireless Access Point." There, I knew you could do it. A router is not the same thing, although many wireless access points are also routers, not all are, and not all routers have wireless features!
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Obviously, Apple's preoccupied with chasing unicorns. Hey Tim, best of luck.
Way back when LG entered the western markets it was known as Lucky Goldstar or just Goldstar: maker of the cheapest electronics possible. I mean cheap in any sense. LG has come a long way, but it seems as if their bargain bin think is still in place at times. Did they try this in a few home office settings? Did they send the pre-series models for EMC testing? Apparently not
Yeah you just have to pay for the 5-8k app.