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Spammer Faces Decades In Prison For Sending More Than 1 Million Spam Emails (suntimes.com)

mi quotes a report from Chicago Sun-Times: A man has been indicted on federal fraud charges for allegedly sending more than a million spam emails. The indictment charges 36-year-old Michael Persaud of Scottsdale, Arizona, with 10 counts of wire fraud and seeks the forfeiture of four computers, according to a statement from the U.S. attorney's office. The indictment was returned Dec. 9, 2016, and was unsealed after Persaud was arrested last month in Arizona. Between 2012 and 2015, Persaud used multiple IP addresses and domains to send spam emails over at least nine networks, including several servers in Chicago, according to the indictment. He sent more than a million spam emails to people in the U.S. and abroad, using false names to register domains and creating fraudulent "from address" fields to conceal the fact that he was the one sending the emails. Each count carries a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison.
mi leaves us with some rather unpleasant imagery, writing: "Personally, I wish [the sentence] carried removal of 1 square millimeter of skin for each message instead."

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  1. Good! by nospam007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A good beginning.

    1. Re:Good! by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Funny

      Now Mr. Persaud will get to enjoy the feeling of loads of unsolicited male in his inbox.

    2. Re:Good! by amiga3D · · Score: 2

      I was thinking the death penalty would be better. But I guess I can settle for life in prison for him.

    3. Re:Good! by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 5, Informative

      Wait!... You don't think the punishment may be a bit... draconian?!!! What is wrong with you people?

      The headline is inaccurate clickbait, which unfortunately, seems to be happening a lot more with Slashdot lately.

      That the maximum sentence based on the law - 10 counts of wire fraud of 20 years each. He's not going to be sentenced for 200, or even 20 years. Sentences anywhere from one to four years seems to be the norm for similar spam-related cases.

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    4. Re:Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You mean outbox, right?

    5. Re:Good! by KiloByte · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You don't think the punishment may be a bit... draconian?!!!

      The numbers are the max allowed for that indictment, sentences that spammers get are a ridiculously low fraction of that.

      I do think spamming should be punished harsher than murder, as the cost for the society is greater. Somehow people underestimate the harm if it is spread among many people. Like: you build a coal power plant that reduces the lives of 100k people by a year each -- you've committed the equivalent of more than 1000 murders, yet don't even get a fine for that.

      On the other hand, I find the count of "more than 1 million spam emails" to be suspicious. A decade ago, spam response rate was 1 in 12.5M, and I'd expect it to be way lower today. A spammer doesn't spam "for the evulz", he spams because it is profitable. A billion mails per campaign is a low figure, and a spammer doesn't build the infrastructure for just a single run.

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    6. Re: Good! by knightghost · · Score: 2

      The only thing outrageous about it is taking 4 years to do anything about it. 4 seconds would be acceptable.

    7. Re:Good! by KiloByte · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Spam is just spam. The sentence seems way over the top.

      And murder is just murder. Making the society lose a few decades of life worth is as bad whether it's done by offing a single person or slightly inconveniencing a million. People tend to fail to recognize spammers as just as bad as murderers, just like they obsess about a plane crash that kills 100 while ignoring thousands who died in car crashes that day.

      I can filter out the spammer and windows anal probe 10 users at completely and totally at the mercy of M$, right on their desktop, completely ublockable

      Newsflash: you can block Windows anal probe 10 too, by keeping it away from your computer. And if you need to run that one program, or test whether your software works on Win 10, or whether your webpage is not mangled by Edge, make a small VM so Microsoft can't spy on anything but that single program.

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    8. Re: Good! by backslashdot · · Score: 2

      No. Causing thousands of persons to waste a few minutes of their life is not the same as killing somebody! For one thing their is no individual subject to extreme suffering. Your mind is warped, emotion driven, and cruel if you think a murderer and a spammer deserve the same punishment. Hey reading your comment wasted a lot of people's time how are you going to compensate them? Should makers of bad movies be convicted of murder too? You are a sicko if you want people killed for spamming you.

    9. Re: Good! by Imrik · · Score: 2

      The average human lives about 40 million minutes, killing a random person will reduce their life by 20 million on average. Wasting 20 million minutes of people's time is equivalent, on a societal level, to murder.

  2. Re:Maybe I'm getting old... by Camel+Pilot · · Score: 2

    Consider how much life this man was wasted... probably in the aggregate several lifetimes... his sentence should roughly equal the number human hours he has wasted.

  3. Re:Maybe I'm getting old... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    his sentence should roughly equal the number human hours he has wasted.

    No it shouldn't. The "lock em' up" mentality is why America has more than four times the incarceration rate of either China or Russia, and an even more disproportionate rate compared to almost any other country. Prison should be used to isolate irredeemably violent people from civilized society. For everyone else, there are better alternative punishments. For instance, this guy could be sentenced to spend 60 hours per week cleaning bedpans at a nursing home for the next 10 years, or some other suitable punishment where he can contribute to society rather than being a drain.

  4. Re:As much as I loathe spammers... by ClickOnThis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the punishment is a way too excessive.
    Locking people up and throwing away the keys like this should be reserved for murderers, rapists, arsonists, robbers, burglars, politicians, Madoff types, and maybe a handful of others.
    This is just wasting jail space, costing us money, and destroying lives.

    TFA is quite light on details, and let's remind ourselves that the trial hasn't happened yet. Nevertheless, he may very well be a "Madoff-type." If the defendant was complicit in perpetrating (e-)mail fraud, with the result that people were bilked out of money, then hard time is appropriate.

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  5. Newsflash: the election is over by raymorris · · Score: 2

    The election is over. The criminal slimeball you have a hard-on for lost, so you can be happy now. Hillary is no longer relevant.

    Unfortunately, in the process of Hillary losing, Trump won. That sucks but oh well. He's done a couple good things, maybe he'll do more. Anyway, the election is over and he's President for the next four years.

    In three years it'll be time to talk about candidates again. Hopefully we'll have a good one. Until then, let's talk about news for nerds, stuff that matters.

  6. I don't get US sentencing... by Morpeth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A privileged college students gets caught in the act (by two other students) raping an unconscious woman, and gets out in what, 3 months? Spammers are annoying obviously, but decades for that...? I just don't get it.

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  7. Re: !Good by ferret4 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's funny 'cause it's rape!