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CS Professor Argues Silicon Valley Is Exploiting Both H-1B Visas And Workers (huffingtonpost.com)

schwit1 quotes Norm Matloff, a CS professor at the University of California at Davis, on H-1B visa programs: The Trump administration has drafted a new executive order that could actually mean higher wages for both foreign workers and Americans working in Silicon Valley. The Silicon Valley companies, of course, will not be happy if it goes into effect... Their lobbyists claim there is a "talent shortage" among Americans and thus that the industry needs more of such work visas. This is patently false. The truth is that they want an expansion of the H-1B work visa program because they want to hire cheap, immobile labor -- i.e., foreign workers.

To see how this works, note that most Silicon Valley firms sponsor their H-1B workers, who hold a temporary visa, for U.S. permanent residency (green card) under the employment-based program in immigration law. EB sponsorship renders the workers de facto indentured servants; though they have the right to move to another employer, they do not dare do so, as it would mean starting the lengthy green card process all over again.

Computerworld also argues this year's annual H-1B visa lottery "may be different, because of President Donald Trump," reporting that the lottery has historically favored the largest firms heavily. "In the 2015 fiscal year, for instance, the top 10 firms received 38% of all the H-1B visas in computer occupations alone. All these firms, except for Amazon and to a partial extent IBM, are outsourcers."

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  1. Don't tie the green card to the company by Snotnose · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Let the H1-Bs change companies easily. Those who suck will stay low wage and not be a problem for me. Those who are good can easily find a job that pays them what they're worth.

    1. Re:Don't tie the green card to the company by beelsebob · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Changing job with an H1B is trivially easy. Changing job while in the process of getting a green card, will reset your application and set you back years.

  2. "Indentured Servitude" looks a bit different by gweihir · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In particular, there is no early way out and after you have served your time you are free. This really does not match what is going on here.

    As to the issue itself, if H1Bs are reduced enough or made economically non-viable, companies will just move the jobs offshore. There really is no way for US workers to win this one and anybody saying differently is a big fat liar, ah, I mean "purveyor of alternate facts" of course!

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  3. Re: Lack of talent my ass!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I worked for a big IT outsourcing company. Every couple weeks they lay off 100-200 americans. Quietly. This way the media doesnt pick up on it. They are then replaced by folks from india. There is actually a written HR policy titled "india first"

    Customers have gotten wise to this and started putting it in their contracts that we must use US based labor. They got around that by bringing in h1b labor.

    They started laying off everyone in mexico because they said that labor was too expensive.... moved those call centers to the phillipines.

    It has nothing to do with talent. Its all money. We had, and still have, no shortage of qualified US labor. We just laid them off at every opportunity to bring in cheaper labor. Thats why i left. Good thing i did. 2 months later, they gutted my dept of folks making six figures.

  4. Re:Lack of talent my ass!!! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Maybe they should limit H1B to people who teach US workers. After all, if they are low talent... Train them up!

    Seems like banning outsourcing companies from getting H1Bs would solve most of the problem.

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