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Disney, YouTube Cut Ties With PewDiePie, Top YouTube Submitter, Over Anti-Semitic Videos (techcrunch.com)

jo7hs2 writes: Disney's Maker Studios has cut ties PewDiePie, the YouTube submitter with 53 million subscribers, over anti-Semitic clips the submitter released earlier in the year. The clips, three videos published in January, have since been removed from the channel. According to TechCrunch, "They included one skit in which [Felix Kjellberg, PewDiePie's real name] paid a Sri Lanka-based group of men to hold up a sign that read 'Death to All Jews,' while another featured a clip of a man dressed as Jesus saying that 'Hitler did absolutely nothing wrong.' Kjellberg used freelance job finding site Fiverr for both clips. He argued that he wasn't serious with either and instead wanted to show the things people will do for money." A spokesperson for Maker Studios, which was acquired by Disney in 2014, told the Wall Street Journal, "Although Felix has created a following by being provocative and irreverent, he clearly went too far in this case and the resulting videos are inappropriate." Writing on his Tumblr blog, Kjellberg said the purpose of the examples was "to show how crazy the modern world is, specifically some of the services available online." He continued, "I picked something that seemed absurd to me -- That people on Fiverr would say anything for 5 dollars. I think it's important to say something and I want to make one thing clear: I am in no way supporting any kind of hateful attitudes."

UPDATE 2/14/17: YouTube has also cut ties with Kjellberg. A YouTube representative confirmed to Business Insider that the company has canceled its YouTube Red original show starring Kjellberg. Business Insider reports: "Kjellberg's show, 'Scare PewDiePie,' was a YouTube original accessible through the company's subscription service, YouTube Red. The show was about to premiere its second season. YouTube is also removing Kjellberg from Google's preferred advertising program, which helps the platform's most popular personalities attract bigger advertisers."

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  1. Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Slashdot: "Celebrity" gossip. Stuff that doesn't matter.

    1. Re:Who cares? by citizenr · · Score: 2

      I care, because there is a chance YT will stop spamming this retards videos into my recommend feed like they were somehow thematically similar to the clip I currently watch (oscilloscope repair for example).

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    2. Re:Who cares? by Jack9 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Youtube's highest paid content creator (and conversely highest earning content creator for YouTube) was cut over pressure from a partner corporation (which in turn came from the ironic, , via a pessimistic (mis)interpretation of an entertainment video? It is geek news. The trolls implying that he might possibly be antisemitic are just perpetuating the status quo, in promoting that there are more than seven words you can't say.

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    3. Re:Who cares? by gravewax · · Score: 3, Insightful

      he is still right, Who the fuck cares, this is not supposed to be a pseudo celebrity gossip rag. We have enough shit that is border line whether it belongs here, this is so far into fucking no mans land you can't even see the border.

    4. Re:Who cares? by Mashiki · · Score: 2

      Disney is extremely conservative, everyone knows this,

      And here I am looking at the Disney channel, and ABC news. You're calling that conservative? Okie dokie there. If the Disney channel got any more progressive with one of their main revenue streams, I'd be wondering if they were pushing pro-pedophilia or pro-hebephilia stances. Guess what though? This entire thing has backfired. Not on PewDiePie, on disney, the media in general. And it just redpilled an entire swath of GenZ to hate the media. Good job, and you're wondering why the left is moving to irrelevancy.

      Once again, it must be pointed out that Youtube does host a huge amount of far right neo-Nazi Jew hating material. That doesn't give anyone the right to be paid to produce it.

      There's far more leftist fascist material on there these days. See how easily I pulled bullshit out of my ass?

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  2. Who cares? by sgage · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who. Fucking. Cares? What is a PewDiePie? This is news?

  3. disney are idiots by mOzone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    pewdiepie shaved his ass and sent the hair off so someone could bake a cake ..and for valentine's day video had humping penis's for 5 mins ...100s of video along same lines ...and disney didn't care ....but the fiver video was the (((last straw))) ...lol hypocrites

    1. Re:disney are idiots by by+(1706743) · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There's a difference between being generically offensive, and being offensive by targeting specific groups.

      You don't have to agree that one is more offensive than the other, but to ignore that the two cases are different isn't particularly productive.

      And on the other end of the spectrum you have stuff like South Park, which basically tries to be offensive by targeting *every* group; in some strange egalitarian sense, this makes it "less offensive," as the motives are clearly for humor, rather than hatred towards a specific group.

    2. Re:disney are idiots by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

      Well, South Park does get a lot more leeway precisely because it is an equal-opportunity offender. But while Comic Central generally lets Parker and Stone do whatever they want, they have nailed them a few times. Still, I often find that South Park, despite being a bit caustic, is rarely ever outright cruel (okay, Paris Hilton being shoved up Slave's ass might be pretty cruel). But it is a fine line, and there's an art to satire, particularly when it involves risque subjects. I keep thinking back to the Monty Python "Prejudice Game Show" sketch with Michael Palin spouting early 70s-era epithets like "awful gippos" and "shoot the poof!" Because Python were pretty smart guys, and more importantly good writers, they could pull of this kind of shock and awe comedy (think here of the cannibalistic "Undertaker's Sketch"), whereas Spike Milligan, who was just as brilliant a comedian, even by 1970s standards, went too far with some of his sketches.

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    3. Re:disney are idiots by Khyber · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "There are no possible jokes that can be made about the Holocaust."

      Please. Tragedy plus Time equals Comedy. Anyone can joke about anything. The real joke as of current, speaking of time, is your disingenuous nonsense.

      "The fact that you do not understand why this is so shows that you are at risk of something like it happening in your lifetime."

      You mean the several other genocides which have happened since WWII, most fucking recent one being the Srebrenica massacre? That you're so blind to think that not one other genocide has happened, let alone in their lifetime, is yet another comedic tragedy, and it's your ignorance that perpetuates and furthers the possibility of these genocides happening.

      "How could it be that less than a year ago it would be unimaginable that you could end up dying in a chemical weapons attack in Iran?"

      Bullshit, son. They've got ammonia and bleach and aluminum over there, in great fucking quantities. Chlorine gas is easily manufactured in the home, and is ALWAYS a persistent threat due to the ready availability of the three substances needed. Yet another comedic example of your tragic dysfunctional logic processes. Looks like you can only go one or two steps ahead - you'd be a poor chess player.

      "How do you feel about going off to fight Iran?"

      You know exactly jack about our military capability, eh? Roughly three days of US Air Superiority would guarantee that it wouldn't be much of a fucking fight, let me tell you. It would essentially be as simple as rolling in and dropping the conventional explosives equivalent of a few nukes. Reality, we could simply take the entirety of the Middle East within two weeks, spend about a year fighting a ground war wiping out every possible bit of opposition using our advanced satellite technology to track targets and scan for them, and then that area is simply ours.

      Assuming one had a competent leader and plan for them to execute, anyways. Can't say that with our current chief-of-leaks.

      "You have absolutely no idea how easy it is for society to turn on a pin and exterminate millions of people."

      I'm pretty sure the entire world was watching our election and is just waiting for the second part to happen.

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    4. Re:disney are idiots by meta-monkey · · Score: 2

      You know exactly jack about our military capability, eh? Roughly three days of US Air Superiority would guarantee that it wouldn't be much of a fucking fight, let me tell you.

      Just park a couple of destroyers in the Gulf of Oman, blow up anything going to or from Iran and wait a few weeks.

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  4. Works better than expected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    [He] wanted to show the things people will do for money.

    It worked better than he expected. Much better.

    He actually exposed the hypocrisy of the loony-left media-industrial propaganda complex and the things they will do for money.

    The media-industrial complex has been accused to be ignorant as to why it lost belly-up in Nov 2016. The reality is that there is no such ignorance. Instead it chooses to be the bitch of the loony hyperliberal special interest which actively stifles anything not conforming to its slave ideology.

    1. Re:Works better than expected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Think most people missed what his 'message' was. You can hire people say whatever you want. It doesn't even cost much. Somehow people want to pretend it is not going on.

      Yes what he did was racist. But he also has a bigger message that most people seem to want to ignore. You can *BUY* whatever narrative you want. That is not a good thing. Hell he bought it for 5 bucks a head.

      Think some billionaire with a chip on his shoulder wouldn't do the exact same thing? If not why not?

      I personally think exactly that has been going on for a long time. My wife decided to donate to one of these organizations once. Holy hell, did we get real spam mail for years. I am talking 10-15 per week. All of these 'grass roots' organizations are clearly thinly veiled money laundering schemes for rich people to push whatever narrative they want. The DNC itself in the past year has been caught on tape many times buying trouble. I have 0 doubt the RNC does the exact same thing.

    2. Re:Works better than expected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Protip: The brown shirt fascists are the ones protesting against free speech, assaulting people, and lighting shit on fire while screaming obscenities at anyone who doesn't buy into their ideology 100%.

  5. Irreverent vs. Inappropriate by cervesaebraciator · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Although Felix has created a following by being provocative and irreverent, he clearly went too far in this case and the resulting videos are inappropriate."

    It's funny how one of these words has a positive connotation, and the other one a negative. This, despite the fact that opposing groups might apply each term to the same content. All inappropriate means in a context where one is praising someone for irreverence is that the irreverence was applied to a preferred group.

    I am reminded of Isaac Hayes's objection to South Park's irreverence toward Scientology.

    1. Re:Irreverent vs. Inappropriate by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Informative

      Generally, in the post-WWII Western world, making Holocaust jokes or anti-Jewish jokes is seen at the very least in pretty poor taste, and it is indeed the kind of thing that could see people lose sponsorships, jobs, etc. Mel Gibson has been trying to like a bastard to rebuild his career or 10 years after the whole "Jews start all the wars" drunken rant, and while it seems like Hollywood is prepared to give him yet another chance, he'll be dogged by that (and that crazy-ass phone call to his ex-girlfriend, which in some ways I found a whole lot more disturbing) until the day he dies.

      Every society has its taboo subjects, some taboo for idiotic reasons (like say, blasphemy and heresy), and some probably for good reasons. In general attacking Jews or mocking or denying the Holocaust are seen as pretty bad because it is feared, not entirely without justification, that latent anti-Semitism inevitably ends up in some sort of pogrom (that's pretty much been the history of the Jews for at least two thousand years, even longer if you buy pre-Hellenic tales of woe). Now, in places like Germany and Austria, that sort of thing is likely to get you thrown in jail, but in the US, the state has no role in determining whether speech is allowed or not, save within a pretty narrow scope of circumstances. That doesn't, however, bind private actors like citizens or corporations from disassociating themselves from people who make anti-Semitic statements.

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    2. Re:Irreverent vs. Inappropriate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      But how is it that he pissed off moneyed interests?
      i.e. he pissed off the jews?

  6. Re:Semetic? by by+(1706743) · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think this makes you anti-semantic...

  7. Re:Judging by his name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'd say there's a fair chance Mr. Kjellberg *is* Jewish [...]

    No.

    'Berg' is very common in Swedish surnames. It translates as 'mountain'.

  8. Good work by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2, Informative
    It's great to see that people who cannot abide a little bit of anything "not quite right" are making certain to fire and otherwise ostracize all non-politically correct and offensive others. Good work snowflakes.

    Two thoughts. When you cater to whims of the easily offended, they do not become less offended, they find more things to be offended about.

    Y'all easily offended just clean up your little corner of the room, arranging everything meticulously and making it perfect and pure - while other people elect the people you like the least.

    Now I'm going to go to Youtube and watch some Bill Maher and Louis CK.

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  9. Re:Semetic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    If being anti-Symantec is a crime, then there can't be many innocent techies in all the world.

  10. So? by Nunya666 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I cut ties with Disney after they outsourced their IT department.

    News at 11.

    1. Re:So? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've embraced them. I download torrents of all their movies and watch them with great interest. I try not to miss a one. Very loyal, yesiree.

  11. Video here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just in case anyone was wondering, you can find the video in question here. I've skipped to the relevant part, but the whole video is him going WTF over just what people will do for a few bucks on Fiverr:

    https://youtu.be/KtxXKezbQ9w?t=660

    "I am sorry. I didn't think they would actually do it."

    "I don't feel too proud of this, I'm not going to lie."

    1. Re:Video here by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 2

      I never heard of him until a south park episode a few years back (and haven't heard the name since) but even though I'm not a fan of his, I think the reaction is overkill. He could always move to a youtube competitor; if he has THAT many viewers, it would pull a lot of users away from youtube and wouldn't surprise me if they went out of their way to get him back.

    2. Re:Video here by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Without knowing anything about this guy (other than the South Park reference mentioned above), I know already a lot about his personality just by watching this video excerpt, his intention, his apparent motivation, his reactions, etc.: the kind of rich (or problem-free or egoist) asshole with a distorted perception of the world, overwhelmed by the tremendous amount of information and all what is associated with internet, responsible for a new wave of extremely-ignorant-and-completely-unaware fanaticism. I don't mean just the usual peculiarities associated with the behaviour of these youtubers, but the whole internet-based group-thinking movement: SJWs (bear in mind that I am an over-understanding leftist), Twitter or Facebook or whatever lynch squads and even programming-related fanatic and ignorant group-thinking (I know something about this too).

      Just in case my position is not clear, here comes a summary of what I see in this video:

      1. The guy firstly complains about the people to whom he has paid $5 (!!!) not doing what he wants. My impression is that these people were trying to give more for the paid price, kind of highlighting that all was a joke. If I was in his shoes, just watching these guys doing these stupid things for me because I paid them $5 would have made me feel horrible.

      2. The expected result is delivered exactly as instructed; and this guy behaves firstly as if it was incredible (?! Weren't you complaining 5 seconds before because they didn't do it?!) and then shameful?! They are just words, exactly your words?! Don't you feel ashamed about writing such a sentence and hire some people to show it in a video, but you do feel ashamed of watching it in that video?! Why? Out-of-context words have no meaning, and much less the exact format in which these words are expressed; all what matters is intention. If you have ever had that thought, it would be equally bad than writing it or showing it in a video. There is no difference. There is hypocrisy, ignorance, self-esteem issues and being overhelmed by what you cannot even understand. Only a hypocrite can see any difference between actually doing/thinking/saying something wrong in one format or a different one.

      3. The most incredible part and what perfectly describes the aforementioned new wave of half-persons with lots of power (or, at least, a very large audience): he dares to blame the two guys he hired for $5 (!!) for doing what he asked them to do!!! Even though he was complaining when they delayed that output for some seconds!! Complains about the world being wrong because some people have to work for an asshole for 5 miserable dollars! But he doesn't realise that he is the asshole!! He is the person who has provoked such an output! He had the intention (= all what matters)!

      This guy thinks that paying $5 to people needing that money to do something pathetic makes sense. He thinks that being angry with these people in case of not doing exactly what he wants makes sense. He thinks that blaming these people for doing exactly what he instructed them to do makes sense. He thinks that feeling bad (better: showing that he feels bad) about a specific format (actually showing certain words in a video), but not caring about other (thinking about/writing these exact words somewhere else or hiring someone to write them) makes also sense. If he read the current post (or other descriptive-enough text), he would likely understand what he did wrong, even feel bad about his behaviour and never repeat it again. He would learn (basics about being a person) because he doesn't know it, but he is surprisingly unaware about this fact. He most likely thinks that his understanding capabilities are better than the average ones, thanks to his blind-supporters bubble. Other very curious issue of this kind of people is that they seem to think that what they deliver ($5 or his ideas in the video or anything else) is really valuable! No idea what others think, but the only feeling which they can provoke in me is pity. Is he a bad guy? He will

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    3. Re: Video here by k2r · · Score: 2

      Very much this.
      Spoiled by his success he complains about people who are broke enough to act out his stupid ideas for $5.
      He seems like the emperors brat who's having fun because the paws will dance to the rhythm of his clapping hands.
      There is good potential for enlightening in this situation, though.

  12. You aren't training your feed properly. by hackwrench · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There is a button somewhere on every video that you can click on that says not interested. Do that enough and they will stop showing up. For that matter I click the subscribe button on just about any fool that comments on videos I like regardless of whether they have any intention of making videos and am probably technically subscribed to PewDiePie, but his videos never show up as recommendations for me because I actually manage my blinking YouTube situation.

    1. Re:You aren't training your feed properly. by hairyfeet · · Score: 2

      That button? Yeah it doesn't do anything. I have pressed that damned button a billion fricking times trying to keep those retarded YouTube "comedians" off my suggestions but I keep seeing his ass and several of his buds day after day after day. Its the same as I have clicked "not interested" (I would pick "more likely to desire an STD" if I could) on the YouTube Red channel, wanna guess what is there the very next time I go to YouTube? The YouTube Red channel.

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  13. Re:Mickey Maus by coastwalker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually although this is meant to be funny it is not and neither was what Pewdiepie did either. I understand that for people under the age of thirty "Ironic" means that you can say anything. There are still a few older people around who are too square for that daddy o. There are some things that happened in the second world war that scared the fucking shit out of most of the planet when they found out what had been going on. You see the nice German people who are currently having the piss taken out of them because they are taking hundreds of thousands of dark skinned Muslims as refugees. The nice German people took 6 million Jews, Gypsys, Black people, Homosexuals and gassed them to death because they reclassified them as dangerous animals. Now I am not saying that being ironic makes you a Nazi death camp commander but you do not have any sensitivity to the slippery slope that the German people fell down. In other words you appear to be disrespectful to the idea that there are some ideas that are too horrible to contemplate even as a joke. Unfortunately as you have no idea what it is that you have done wrong it is apparent that the world is ready once again for horrible things to be done. It is no coincidence that Nationalism and hatred of foreigners is once again popular. The lessons of the Holocaust have been forgotten and the world is ready once again for appalling crimes against humanity So no, jokes about the Holocaust are never funny, not even ironic ones.

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  14. Re:Mickey Maus by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 2

    As a father, I've had the displeasure of having PewDiePie as a regular member of my house. For example, me, ny son, my daughter and my niece were walking in Manhattan, which is in itself unlikely to happen as they live in Florida and we live in Norway. But we were on vacation with one another and my son and I were joking with each other and I said "You suck" and the two girls who see each other every second or third year simultaneously say "You swallow" which horrified me but apparently was a great bonding experience for the girls who immediately giggled, compared notes and came to the realization they're both primarily educated by PewDiePie.

    I have been horrified and offended by PewDiePie before. Let me also say that as a recovering Jew, I lived growing up surrounded by family who were escapees, survivors, etc... of the holocaust. What I found is simple, if a Jew were to do something as stupid as what PewDiePie did, it would be distasteful irony, if anyone else did, it would be antisemitic.

    Now, the Germans didn't systematically destroy 6 millions Jews and Gypsies and Black people. They systematically destroyed 6 million Jews, 5 million Gypsies and I have no idea about the black people, by I'd imagine the number would be horrifying as well. If you're going to be an SJW, you have to try and be at least a little close to right.

    Let's settle some things... was Hitler anti-Jew (Antisemitic requires that the person is a semite. I challenge any European Jew to prove they are actually a semite), yes he was. Was he trying to eliminate Jews, by his own words and hand, he was. But only a filthy and disgusting person would call the holocaust the "Jewish Holocaust" because he was a pretty equal opportunity hater. He wanted to kill everyone that was easy to target. Jews, Gypsies and Blacks all have something in common, they are easy to find, they are clearly different than other people (at least visually) and it's really easy to convince massive numbers of people they are the cause of their problems.

    Wanna see something horrifying, look at how easily Trump is manipulating people to get his "Great Wall of Trump" build so he'll accomplish immortality. He is using the same sort of gifts and rhetoric that Hitler used. He'll give anyone anything they want so long as they let him build that wall. He'll tell us all "we're better than those dark skinned Mohammad lovers are... they're trying to kill us.. those Mexicans want to take your jobs, your homes and your daughters, let me build that wall!!!!"

    Now, here's the thing... PewDiePie is a moron. He has made himself rich and famous by being a one man Jack-Ass Online show. His audience is a massive number of young and impressionable children and what has he now taught them? He taught them that it's a sick world where people would be willing to hold such horrible signs for $5. He showed that people would be willing to sell their souls for $5.

    It's disgusting in my opinion that children should learn something so terrible at such a young age. What he did taught first world children about how bad life is for some people that $5 is the price of their conscience. He showed that people could be easily bought or manipulated for almost nothing. I'm 100% sure that the people holding those signs didn't believe in them, I am also pretty sure that the guy in Sri Lanka was more concerned about how long he could live on that $5. I don't think he knows or cares about who Hitler was. But I also know that he can be bought for $5.

    Dude, I think what he did was a service. I think that out of all the stupid shit he's said and done, he's actually done something right for once. I think he demonstrated outright how easy it is to convince people "Hitler Good, Jew Bad". He showed that a person in that type of position will go where he/she believes the food is. It takes very very little to convince people to dispose of the last good thing left in their hearts when there's nothing left in their stomachs.

    What could you ask a man/women do for $10 or a promise of $5

  15. Re:Lesson Learned... The Jews Control Everything by Nocturrne · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The jewish mafia controlling the entertainment business blacklists anyone who even uses the words "jew" or "nazi.' His entertainment related career is over...

  16. Re:Mickey Maus by David_Hart · · Score: 2

    What could you ask a man/women do for $10 or a promise of $5 a day. What if you established a trust fund for their child that paid $5 a day for 40 years, could you convince someone to commit suicide on camera? What would it cost to make one of those people hurt or kill someone? If I offered them $5 a day, would they hurt a friend or so .....

    So get off your high horse and use the gray lump between your ears to better understand what we have seen. If the Jews (my family) would have used the gray shit between their ears, they probably could have stopped the holocaust before it started. Instead they behaved all huffy and pissy like you. If you believe what he did wasn't a joke, fine. i agree. It was not a joke, but in the spirit which it was done, we learned something very important and if you're gonna be a SJW, then at least stop being a f-ing stupid one!

    I think the point that most people are making is that he could have come up with a better way of proving his point. All he had to do was use a different and less insulting and less racist way of doing it. It's my understanding that he chose the meme and that is what he is being judged on.

    Does he have a valid point that people are in situations where they will do just about anything for a dollar just to survive? Yes. But we know that this is a sad truth, it's nothing new. There are other ways to draw attention to these types of causes, including starting up a charity or asking for donations for an existing one. He had the followers and could have done a lot of good. Imagine if your children could learn how to get involved in helping others half way around the world...

    Instead, he chose a toxic message as part of his "comedy" and it overrides any good point he was trying to make.

  17. Re: Judging by his name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    > with this definition (racism=prejudice+discrimination) it makes sense to say blacks can't be racist.
    No, it does not.

    > Definitions can't be wrong, they may be confusing or useless, but not wrong.
    Incorrect, they can be internally inconsistent, or contrary to other positions held by the same individuals or group, unfair, prejudicial themselves and so on.

  18. Re: Judging by his name by Tranzistors · · Score: 2

    Time to work with primary sources. I assume(*) you meant video "5 Things You Should Know About Racism" (3:28 - 5:08). The point of the video was that for racism to work it need institutional support. She did not claim that black people can't possibly be racist. If you know a state where institutions are run by blacks and are discriminating against whites, that would be your counterexample. For inspiration, Chinese institutions discriminate against non Chinese. Perhaps South Africa is doing the something similar. But the point Franchesca is making is that USA has no institutions that oppress whites in favour of blacks, not that blacks are theoretically "incapable of being racist"

    I agree that all races can hate, discriminate etc. We are human after all. But is two groups hate each other and only one group calls the shots, it would be foolish to assume that the disadvantaged group has as much of the responsibility to fix the situation as the advantaged group.

    (*) I assume you meant this video, because your quote "incapable of being racist." and MTV lead to a reddit article, which linked to the Decoded video

  19. Re: Judging by his name by msauve · · Score: 2

    "USA has no institutions that oppress whites in favour of blacks"

    That's simply untrue.

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  20. Re:that's private business for you by meta-monkey · · Score: 2

    Isn't this exactly the freedom from government restrictions on how I choose to run my business that the right wants?

    Half. I don't want the government forcing Christians to bake gay wedding cakes either. I spent a decade yelling at Christians to stop trying to force their shit on the gays, only to have the gays turn around and force their shit on the Christians. I'm beginning to think libertarian society is impossible because authority is too addictive.

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  21. Re:Mickey Maus by Creedo · · Score: 2

    a not insignificant number of the actual protestors are paid, too, about $25 via craigslist,

    Care to show some actual examples of said ads with people answering them?
    I marched in a local Women's March. No one I knew was being paid, or had been approached about being paid. I certainly wasn't. There were thousands of people there. There was ZERO indication of anyone paying for protests. Instead, you have a diverse group of people with individual concerns(ranging from pro-choice beliefs to local Native American tribes showing solidarity with the pipeline protesters, and pretty much everything in between). No one was confused about their message. No one was rioting, either. But I suppose people protesting against Republican policies doesn't fit the "Trump gets mandate from American People" meme.

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  22. Bullshit by JThundley · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is a lot of bullshit. He was making a joke, it's very obvious. He wasn't espousing racist beliefs. Youtube and Disney took the clips out of context. Watch this video about the ordeal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLNSiFrS3n4

    This also happened to another streaming personality, Destiny. He was having a debate about racism (he's against it), and said something along the lines of "If you're argument is 'n*ggers are too dumb to do X, Y and Z, then blah blah'. Speaking in the 3rd person; speaking as the very racists he's combating. I guess the N word is to controversial to say in any context, he was banned from Twitch.

    And now I'm having trouble posting this because of the lameness filter! I can't say the N word here for the same reason! Jesus fuck! Yes I'm trying to say the full N word, no I'm not a racist, I'm sorry if you're offended, but fuck you for changing my speech.