Slashdot Mirror


FCC Chairman Wants It To Be Easier To Listen To Free FM Radio On Your Smartphone (recode.net)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Recode: Your smartphone has an FM radio in it, only it's unlikely that you're able to use it. That's because in the U.S., less than half of phones actually have the FM tuner turned on. But FCC Chairman Ajit Pai, who just recently assumed the top position at the regulatory agency under President Trump, thinks that should change. In remarks made to the North American Broadcasters Association yesterday, Pai said that it's a public safety issue. Both the former head of the Federal Emergency Management Association and an FCC advisory panel on public safety have advocated for turning on the FM radio capabilities in smartphones, since radio is a reliable source of information when internet or cellphone networks go down in severe weather. Although Pai thinks smartphones should have the FM chip turned on, he doesn't think the government should mandate it: "As a believer in free markets and the rule of law, I cannot support a government mandate requiring activation of these chips. I don't believe the FCC has the power to issue a mandate like that, and more generally I believe it's best to sort this issue out in the marketplace."

26 of 209 comments (clear)

  1. FCC can't help ... by Obfuscant · · Score: 4, Informative
    My smartphone has an FM radio app in it (as have all my previous ones), but I am unlikely to use it.

    It requires the use of wired earphones because the wire acts as the FM radio antenna. The FCC cannot change that.

    1. Re:FCC can't help ... by omnichad · · Score: 2

      HD Radio (in the US) rides on top of the main analog signal. It does bring some encoding artifacts with it, but it's nothing compared to the cranked up compressor and band pass filters on the analog signal. You generally get FM quality audio out of AM radio and close to 160Kbps MP3 equivalent audio on the FM side. Not perfect, but far from bad - the main problem is that it only gets 1% of the broadcast power of the analog signal, so the range is not so great.

    2. Re:FCC can't help ... by freeze128 · · Score: 2

      Then the people with bluetooth only headphones will be the first to die in a natural disaster. Look, natural selection at work!

    3. Re:FCC can't help ... by taustin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Reverse 911 and SMS both require the cell network be functional. Receiving an FM signal does not. In addition, and FM signal can be sent from a single mobile transmitter, that can be picked up for a hundred miles or more, with no signal degradation based on how many people are listening, where cell networks have a finite (and comparatively small) maximum bandwidth available.

      In the event of a natural disaster, FM is a far more reliable than any possible signal sent through the cell network. This is the entire premise of ham radio.

    4. Re:FCC can't help ... by blindseer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Even if I could listen to FM radio, why would I? Honestly, I don't even use the radio in my car anymore. It's been ten years or more since I listened to the radio.

      I've started to ask myself the same thing but perhaps for a different reason than you. I had a couple radios die on me recently which made me think about my listening habits as I shopped for replacements.

      When I listen to the radio it's usually for news, weather, and traffic. These things I normally find on AM. There's a couple AM new/talk stations I flip between, one of which simulcasts on FM which is sometimes clearer than the AM cast. When there is bad weather I'll listen to the NOAA weather band broadcasts, the local storm watchers that chat on the amateur radio band, or the same news/talk stations I'd listen to normally. There is a local traffic station that broadcasts on low power AM, which is nice if I see traffic moving slow or the road condition is bad.

      It's rare for me to listen to music on the radio, I have a large collection of music on my iPod (which is normally left hooked up to the stereo in my truck) and iPhone, and I can stream music over the internet from my iPhone or computer. Trying to listen to music on FM is typically quite annoying with the advertisements that are often louder than the typical music, which is a turn off. As in, I'll turn off the radio than listen to that crap. The point of listening to music is to gain enjoyment, which is destroyed with blaring adverts and/or blithering idiots for DJs.

      I do listen to radio broadcasts, just not typically those on the FM band.

      --
      I am armed because I am free. I am free because I am armed.
    5. Re:FCC can't help ... by pegr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Did the lack of this feature affect your buying decision? If it's a part of the chipset that the phone vendor didn't implement because nobody wanted it, can you really be upset for not having it?

      OTOH, Other markets really use this feature. If it's there and people want it, it will happen. This might be the first step.

    6. Re:FCC can't help ... by superdave80 · · Score: 2

      It's possible multiple transmitters were spaced out for greater coverage. One FM station does not necessarily have just one transmitter.

    7. Re:FCC can't help ... by Solandri · · Score: 2

      That would be a valid argument in the product development stage.

      The FM receiver is already in your phone. It's just been disabled at the request of carriers so they can make more money via data plans used to listen to music, or in the case of Apple because the manufacturer makes money from streaming services.

  2. AMaphobia much? by s.petry · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey, I like my AM stations better! Down with the FM bigots!

    --

    -The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.

    1. Re:AMaphobia much? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2

      I prefer shortwave ham. Get off my lawn.

      --
      Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
    2. Re:AMaphobia much? by mykepredko · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Probably marked as "Funny" but in many regions AM radio is where you get new, traffic, weather so it would be more useful in times of emergency than FM.

    3. Re:AMaphobia much? by s.petry · · Score: 2

      I was being serious in a humorous way.

      --

      -The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.

    4. Re:AMaphobia much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The biggest trouble with AM is the wavelength.

      Typical FM stations have wavelength of order a few metres, so any sensible length of wire (eg a headphone wire) will make an OK 1/4-ish-or-close-enough wave antenna. So headphones as antenna wire + some fairly trivial demodulation in the existing chipset and you're good to go.

      AM bands have wavelengths from around 300m-600m, so forget using the headphone wire - you'll need some sort of tuned resonant loop / ferrite rod or similar for even half decent reception. That means more weight, extra power consumption, increased cost and added circuit complexity (you really can't just smash AM with a DSP hammer the way you can FM) for a feature that would (probably) get even less use than the FM receiver.

      That's why you just don't see AM receivers in phones.

  3. Why are less than half activated in the US? by rmdingler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Carriers have little financial incentive to do so because they profit from streaming data, says Barry Rooke of the National Campus and Community Radio Association.

    --
    Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.

    Ernest Hemingway

  4. Re:So how is this any different than before? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, this is the free market working as intended, putting the consumer at the mercy of the corporations with no government protection whatsoever.

    The BS about the free market solving problems by allowing consumers to choose better solutions is a fairy tale told to pacify everyone in the hopes that they won't wake up and realize that corporations collude with each other to maximize their ability to extract profit from consumers by making sure they don't have choices available.

  5. Partial list of FM-enabled Android phones/carriers by by+(1706743) · · Score: 4, Informative
  6. Is there an app for that? by PPH · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Let people download an app and make up their own minds about FM. This whole 'the marketplace has decided' bullshit is often just cover for 'We have our reasons. Go away and stop bothering us.'

    There are some subtle differences between broadcast FM and streaming content revenue models and middlemen. I wouldn't be surprised if the streaming proponents just want to steer the ad bucks their way. Follow the money.

    --
    Have gnu, will travel.
  7. Re:FM not as common as the article sounds. by tlhIngan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The way they write this makes it sound like nearly all phones have an FM chip/capability already built-in, which I believe is actually quite far from the truth. Its only a few specific models.

    Well, the chips to do it tend to be everywhere - WiFi and Bluetooth chips tend to be triple duty with FM radio thrown in because it isn't hard to add.

    The real issue is whether or not it's actually hooked up - usually they aren't. So the phone may have the hardware for it, but not actually be wired up.

    The real question is why? I hardly ever listen to FM radio (AM I do a lot). If it was a popular feature, it would be in every phone as a feature. But most people are either streaming or listening to their music.

    Finally, given the present administration, what's going on? I don't think it's done out of the goodness of their hearts to give consumers a feature that's sorely lacking.

  8. Re:A little more subtle than that. Teamsters light by sconeu · · Score: 2

    The quote is now, "The best things in life are for a fee".

    Also appropriate here.

    --
    General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
  9. Re:Misguided priorities for sure by war4peace · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You misunderstood shit.
    The enabled FM chip could be insanely useful in case of a major catastrophe. You would be able to listen to information and instructions on the only device you're carrying with you at all times.
    It's not about you using it more often, it's about it being there hen you need it most.

    --
    ...gis sdrawkcab (usually not responding to ACs; don't bother posting as AC)
  10. Re:So how is this any different than before? by hey! · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well, "free market" used this way is a glittering generality. Most people who use it aren't referring to the technical economic sense in which individual consumers and producers make consumption, production and pricing decisions autonomously. What they typically mean would be better described something in the direction of anarcho-capitalism, although many are somewhat selective in their application of that philosophy (e.g. they aren't for the free market determining the number of abortions performed, birth control pills dispensed, or marijuana grown).

    --
    Post may contain irony: discontinue use if experiencing mood swings, nausea or elevated blood pressure.
  11. Re:So how is this any different than before? by magarity · · Score: 2

    A large part of the problem is likely consumers just not knowing about it and the carriers not enabling the chips to drive business to their subscription services. A proper efficient market requires accurate information on both sides of the transaction.
    Back when I had a Note 2 I hadn't even know it had come with an FM chip in it. After I found out I called Verizon to complain it wasn't enabled and their support in turn didn't even know anything except to tell me I need more data plan if I wanted to stream radio.

  12. WX and BCB FMW by fyngyrz · · Score: 2

    Broadcast FM in the US is 88-108 MHz. NOAA is generally around 162 MHz. It's quite a stretch for an analog tuner, pretty much requiring more hardware for filters and so on; for most SDRs that can already tune FM broadcast, these frequency ranges aren't really a lot different. For a dedicated digital receiver, it may not even be remotely possible.

    So ultimately it depends on just how the phone is doing FM, and of course, if the software lets you do what you want to do.

    --
    I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
  13. Ajit Pai sez... by jenningsthecat · · Score: 2, Informative

    My hands are tied - honestly! I just tied them myself!

    He says he wants FM on all capable phones, and in the same breath says he doesn't "believe the FCC has the power to issue a mandate like that". Well, Ajit, you slimy fuck, I have news for you: your alleged belief doesn't mean shit, you do have the power, and any assertions you make to the contrary are simply inept and sophomoric bullshit politicking. Being a liar is bad enough - being incompetent at it is just diarrhea icing on the crapcake you're trying to get people to swallow.

    --
    'The Economy' is a giant Ponzi scheme whose most pitiable suckers are the youngest among us and the yet-unborn.
  14. FM Radio in Europe by DrYak · · Score: 4, Informative

    Honestly, I don't even use the radio in my car anymore. It's been ten years or more since I listened to the radio.

    On the other side of the atlantic pond, radio in cars tends to be used a lot, specially for traffic information.
    Last time I listened to the car's radio has been lat time I drove it :
    the car automatically suspended the music we were listening to announce some traffic jams and incident on the highway.
    Most GPS (specially the in-car built-ins) are also able to leverage the digital information (TMC signal on the RDS on FM radios) to also display and take into account such traffic information.

    So radio on portable devices can be useful for such traffic informations.

    The only thing is, as far as I know, most smartphone with disabled radio chips only have *FM*-Radio (i.e.: plain old analog. Sometimes not even with support for digital metadata over RDS).
    Whereas lots of European regions are moving to DAB/DAB+ Radio (digital radio, transmitted as MP2 or AAC digital stream respectively), which is not directly supported on purely FM chips, and would be quite taxing on the battery life if attempting to decode on CPU in software (SDR - software defined radio).

    --
    "Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
  15. Re:FM = clear channel by citylivin · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not really. Find your local college radio station. They usually have diverse and interesting programming. I find most of my new music now adays from eclectic DJs on small university transmitters. And there are never any commercials on CBC radio. So you have options for sure.

    --
    As a potential lottery winner, I totally support tax cuts for the wealthy