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Swedish Court Rules: 'Block the Pirate Bay For Next 3 Years' (fossbytes.com)

"In 2014, many film studios teamed up to force the Swedish ISP Bredbandsbolaget to block the popular torrent website The Pirate Bay," reports Fossbytes. "It was also said that ISPs should be blocked if they refused to block copyright infringing websites." Now, a Swedish Patent and Market Court of Appeal has ordered The Pirate Bay and streaming portal Swefilmer to be blocked by Bredbandsbolaget for the next three years. Fossbytes reports: The court overruled the earlier ruling of the District Court, ordering the ISP to employ some technical measures to stop its customers from accessing the website and its different URLs. The court said that a blocking injunction would be proportional "in the light of EU law." Notably, under the EU law, it's possible for the copyright owners to get an injunction against the ISPs whose services are used to pirate content. This verdict is the first of its kind in Sweden, but similar injunctions have been announced in the past in other European nations. This ruling also opens new doorways for the copyright holders to target more torrent websites in the near future. Pirate Bay spokesperson Peter Sunde said in a statement to TorrentFreak: "The fight is not about TPB -- the users of TPB can just bypass this blockade easily. It's about the slippery slope it brings."

60 comments

  1. Cogent blocked them too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Meanwhile, a Spanish court order to block something else has caused Cogent to block ThePirateBay for all its customers globally.

    1. Re:Cogent blocked them too by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      Almost certainly not a coincidence.

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  2. Not really a great move, IMO by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

    Ideally, enforcing copyright infringement shouldn't fall on a torrent indexing site. There is the possibility of legitimate torrents, after all. In fact, TPB could be looked at as a giant honeypot for catching 'pirates'.

    But that's too difficult, which apparently is a justification for ignoring what's right.

    1. Re: Not really a great move, IMO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the name says it all though they basically had to go after them they where pretty much the symbol of intellectual property no matter what you think of it.

    2. Re:Not really a great move, IMO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are called the PIRATE bay. They aren't Linux Torrent Bay, that happens to have some people posting pirated content. They encourage illegal activity on their site. That makes them responsible.

    3. Re:Not really a great move, IMO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      My god you're right.

      On an unrelated note, I wonder if Apple stores are in compliance with regulations for storage and sale of produce.

    4. Re:Not really a great move, IMO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They are called the PIRATE bay. They aren't Linux Torrent Bay, that happens to have some people posting pirated content. They encourage illegal activity on their site. That makes them responsible.

      With that reasoning the Church of Scientology should be considered a legitimate religion.

      Someone isn't a criminal just because of the name.
      If a locksmith calls is business "Burglar Service" that is a joke, not a reason to drag him to court.
      Also, people posting pedobear memes aren't actually pedophiles.

    5. Re:Not really a great move, IMO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, "legitimate religion" is an oxymoron. But they are indeed just as legitimate as the rest of them.

  3. When you get a lemon, make lemonade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If things like this and other censorship were to provoke higher demand for and faster development of mesh networking, I would have to consider it to be a good thing.

  4. TOR: still working for TPB by DrYak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    given that The Pirate Bay has a .onion address that is still working no matter what,
    such kind of block could actually increase awareness of Tor and increase its usage.

    (Which in turn is good for Tor : The more the traffic, and the more the relay nodes, the better).

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    1. Re: TOR: still working for TPB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which is bad because TOR is garbage. It's like holding up a sign that says "Totally nothing illegal here investigate the hell out of me!"

    2. Re:TOR: still working for TPB by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 1

      Onion sites still work no matter what? Well that's news to me.

    3. Re: TOR: still working for TPB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes tor and crypto net users are in a govt db somewhere.
      however none have ever had any problem in real life just for using those tools.
      because everything you do over them is fully encrypted and they can't see inside that.
      you could be fapping with fuckbae and they wouldn't know it from anything else you're doing.

      OH... as opposed to clearnet where you're ALL on the NSA database
      and they know EXACTLY what you're doing and who you're talking to.

    4. Re:TOR: still working for TPB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The issue here is accessing the torrent listings themselves, not hiding your downloads/uploads.

    5. Re:TOR: still working for TPB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is exactly what I use and works like a charm: Installed TOR in my router and a proxy.pac for browser's autoconfig LAN wide.

      This even transparently route around censored sites blocked at the dns level, and blackholed sites can easily be added manually.

  5. PirateBay legal in 3 years? by The+New+Guy+2.0 · · Score: 1

    What's the reference to three years doing here? Is this supposed to be fixed by then? Perm block and transfer to a legal effort such as what happened to Napster and FourSquare please.

    1. Re:PirateBay legal in 3 years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Control over your free speech isn't legal.
      Napster... FourSquare... legal?
      Lol! While they may be 'legal', they're repressive corp-gov jokes over your rights.
      Fuck you apologists for accepting continuance of that lame shit.
      Join the Pirate Party and *learn* about real progress.

    2. Re:PirateBay legal in 3 years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps, the three years is there so that the lawyers can get another bite of this particular cherry when it expires... perhaps?

    3. Re:PirateBay legal in 3 years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or the court argued that three years might be enough to kill off the user base of TPB.

  6. This is an issue of freedom and liberty, ! piracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The only way we're going to have a chance at fighting against tyranny and big brother is if we gather together in one place for the purpose of fighting these thugs. I moved to New Hampshire as part of the Free State Project for the purpose of pursuing liberty in our life time. It's going to take years- but we have a chance at fixing a lot of issues at the state level in the USA and your not going to find enough people willing to take the next step if we're all spread out. By gathering together in one or two places around the world we have a chance.

    I would support a European-style Free State Project given the challenges which need to be overcome in an international migration movement (not to say there are not some movers internationally for the Free State Project), but for now the Free State Project is the only alive, active, and succeeding movement that's beginning to claw back some freedoms. Now the project itself isn't doing anything other than promoting the migration- but the people within, associated, or who moved because of it are doing a lot. We're getting liberty-loving reps elected at the state and local levels, winning some NH supreme court rulings, getting positive-impact laws passed, etc. This is the only way we're going to be able to kill copy"right" and the tyranny that exists currently. Those want more risk in their life move here- to NH- cause we've got the movement that can and is making that happen.

    http://www.freestateproject.org/ - the project which promoted a migration of liberty-lovers to one state
    http://www.shiresociety.com/ - one of dozens of offshoots of the FSP, Inc (some people don't like the FSP, inc but we all support the FSP's stated mission of more liberty)
    http://www.freekeene.com/ - liberty news and happenings around the shire
    http://www.freetalklive.com/ - the largest liberty oriented talk radio show in the world, based out of New Hampshire

  7. I came for the free movies..... by WolfgangVL · · Score: 1

    Left with a vee-pee-en. Doc says its only temporary, but the meds are pretty pricey.

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  8. Ipv6 push by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Things like these might just push IPV6 forward :D...let them block that.

    1. Re:Ipv6 push by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      are you stupid son?
      if it was IPv1000000 it would still get blocked over clearnet.

    2. Re: Ipv6 push by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's up with the angry AC trashing at everyone all over this story with its "clearnet"? Script kiddie haz learnt a new buzzword at school or what?

  9. Distributed Trackers by MikeDataLink · · Score: 2

    Can someone tell my why this hasn't been solved with distributed trackers? Make it where there millions of pirate bay trackers all over the world?

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    1. Re:Distributed Trackers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because all a "rightsholder" has to do is fire up a torrent client and start recording ip's and data off the dht.
      it's the ip's that will get you fucked, and vpn is subject to court order and trivial grade school level traffic analysis too.
      you need to be using encrypted overlay networks if you expect to stand a chance.
      and they work very well.

    2. Re:Distributed Trackers by wasteoid · · Score: 3, Informative

      The distributed hash table (DHT) functionality in BitTorrent doesn't include the ability to mod the torrent (good quality, fake, etc), which is how junk torrents are filtered out from real ones. Plus, not all BitTorrent clients support DHT, so you reduce the peers, which is where the real power comes from with BitTorrent.

    3. Re:Distributed Trackers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Distributed tracking doesn't solve anything related to The Pirate Bay, because it's not a tracker.

    4. Re:Distributed Trackers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because bittorrent was only meant to transfer few files fast, everything else has been kept to the bare minimum.
      Only Vuze and Tribler have tried to build something better.

    5. Re:Distributed Trackers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      uTorrent has had some kind of vote system since version 3 (utorrent vote rpc) but no other clients seem interested on implementing it.

    6. Re:Distributed Trackers by MikeDataLink · · Score: 1

      because it's not a tracker.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  10. Re:Anonymous Encrypted Overlay Networks... Migrate by AHuxley · · Score: 2

    AC onion routing seems to be trackable by US federal law enforcement with per case funding.

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  11. Religious freedom by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    I'm working on attacking the problem from a religious rights angle. I believe that freedom to interact with culture as you see fit free from government restriction is good as a religious belief, so it goes.

  12. ThePirateBay rocks on by tobiah · · Score: 1

    This is such a minor hit, and they survive the big ones. Burden of proof is well on the censorship side, if they went away today pirate bay would live in-memory for thousands of years.
    In any case sounds more like a few Swedes will have to type in thepiratebay.ee to get their torrents, for a week or two, until the censors give up blocking those 600 participants..

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  13. Re:This is an issue of freedom and liberty, ! pira by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What freedoms have you lost? And the freedom of demanding you are entitled to take any copyrighted material you want for free. And you should change "Free State Project" to "The Whiny Asshole Project". Your bloated sense of entitlement is breath taking. Get an education. Get a job. Make a contribution to society instead of claiming you have "lost your freedoms" because the creators of copyrighted material have the gall to claim ownership of their work and heaven forbid earn a few dollars for their efforts.

  14. Turn in your cool badge, Sweden. by Snufu · · Score: 1

    How quickly they morphed from a protector of citizen sharing and privacy rights into another state enforcer of MPAA dictates.

    1. Re: Turn in your cool badge, Sweden. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We sold out to USA years ago, but the Pirate Party was born out of it.

  15. Anyone remember TPB's taunts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember how TPB used to post legal threats and take down requests from the content owners as well as their responses generally containing swearing and taunts about how Sweden protects them?

    1. Re: Anyone remember TPB's taunts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah. In the end they didn't have the last laugh, had they? And the lesson here is, do not displease and much less taunt the powerful.

    2. Re: Anyone remember TPB's taunts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's yet to be seen. The Pirate Bay is yet to vanish. Court order is one thing, TPB actually becoming inaccessible - another. Their .onion site is unlikely to go away.

  16. Swedish pirate here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This is VERY toothless. Just blocked in DNS, so change DNS server to 8.8.8.8 and you are good to go.

    1. Re:Swedish pirate here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you are going to switch DNS I suggest choosing another provider than the all-seeing eye.

      Captcha: visually.

    2. Re:Swedish pirate here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Personally, I don't mind the all-seeing eye. They are quite adamant about not sharing what they learn, and personally I believe they do this all to build a sapient AI that will finally clean this mess up, so more power to them.

    3. Re:Swedish pirate here by smallfries · · Score: 1

      Was about to post that it still works for me on BBB, but I use 8.8.8.8.8 so I guess that it is why.

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  17. Re:Anonymous Encrypted Overlay Networks... Migrate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    None of the supposed cases have been *proven* to have been due to weaknesses in the design of the overlay or its software.
    Yes, there are design weaknesses in certain areas. Some are being exploited, some aren't. Some exploits apply to certain usage models, some don't.
    Yes, you must use the tools correctly, know what you're doing, know what they're good and not good at.
    No different than anything you do online with any tool today.

    However, compared to the current naked use of bittorrent over clearnet, even over vpn's which aren't even remotely safe in practice...
    These anonymous encrypted overlay networks are a *major* improvement.
    Think of it this way...
    Torrenting copyrighted material is a civil offense, and rarely, a relatively small criminal one.
    These overlay networks host all manner of controversial political free speech, drugs, guns, child porn, cards, fraud, markets, etc... all severe top ranking crimes in some places.
    Many of them have been running on their single central servers for years.
    If those aren't being taken down, you can bet boring old distributed bittorrent over those nets is going to be effectively immune.

  18. Re: Anonymous Encrypted Overlay Networks... Migrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go and migrate. Your "free" network will be just made illegal, the tools banned and users incarcerated. Just in the news, since yesterday in Italy publishing or linking to anything authorities decide is "fake news" from your website or blog is now a criminal offence that can be punished by heavy fines or prison time. It is done. The internet in Italy is now essentially dead and all it took was a signature.

  19. Re:This is an issue of freedom and liberty, ! pira by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you serious?

  20. Re:Religious freedom (desperate anti-semitism) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    > attacking the problem from a religious rights angle

    You nailed the problem exactly! Religion, as in observing the commandemnts given by the G-d of Abraham, which are not only meant for his Chosen Nation, but for all people of all times. You see:

    Film and music piracy is an active form of anti-semitism and thus, a heinous crime! Hollywood movies are entirely created by ethnically and culturally hebrew people (who are often also religiously observing jews). They are the studio financing moguls, they are the scriptwriters, the directors, various prcoducers/managers and even form the majority of movie actors. Yet, the gentile take and consume what jewish inventiveness produces, but forget to pay for movie theatre tickets, DVD discs or streaming subscriptions. Is that OK for you?

    Meanwhile in the music industry, the jewish people don't usually perform on pop stage, since they consider "popular music" too shallow, they are more interested in performing classical music. On the other hand, the music labels are also fully run by jewish investors, directors and managers. Such success makes the generally less talented gentile-kind angry and they take what jews produced, without paying anything.

    Such a situation is not materially different from a pogrom, e.g. the "Crystalnacht" when germans broke jewish shop windows and took whatever they wanted, without paying. We all know where that path led to eventually and nobody wants history to repeat itself in such a way. Therefore the gentiles should also heed the Ten Commandments, which says "Thou shall not steal!"

  21. Re:This is an issue of freedom and liberty, ! pira by hyades1 · · Score: 1

    Of course, there's a downside to having a lot of liberty-loving people located in one small geographical area...

    Fascist #1: "Nuke 'em from orbit."

    Fascist #2: "It's the only way to be sure."

    And a demonstrably unstable individual who doesn't tolerate opinions differing from his own currently has access to the US nuclear launch codes.

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  22. Re:Anonymous Encrypted Overlay Networks... Migrate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's the point.

    TOR isn't the ultimate secure choice.

    It's just more secure than all the alternatives. Diss it all you want, as long as you don't show anything better, you're just rambling.

  23. Re:This is an issue of freedom and liberty, ! pira by hyades1 · · Score: 1

    I bought it on vinyl. I bought it on tape. I bought it yet again on CD. And now you want to say I "stole" it because I downloaded a few FLAC files?

    Suck my cock.

    For free.

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  24. TOR: not only for illegal stuff. by DrYak · · Score: 1

    It's like holding up a sign that says "Totally nothing illegal here investigate the hell out of me!"

    The Pirate Bay it self doesn't hold any copyrighted item. It just lists torrent hashes, and comments and metadata about the content associated with those hashes
    (again, the content isn't hosted there. Only the comments and the hashes).
    In several jurisdiction, that's not even considered illegal.

    You're not using Tor to access illegal material (say non consensual porn, like child porn ; or to access a platform to buy banned goods like weapons and drugs)
    You're using tor to get around a blockade.

    That's completely fine and that's what Tor was designed for (getting around blockade, as much anonymously as possible. E.g.: to circumvent censorship like China's great firewall).

    The more people use tor for anything, the better the chance that tor will be considered normal traffic on the internet, instead of the tell-tale sign of a criminal sharing child abuse.

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