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SoftBank Is Willing To Cede Control of Sprint To Get T-Mobile Merger Done, Says Report (phonedog.com)

According to Reuters, SoftBank is willing to cede control of Sprint to make a T-Mobile-Sprint merger happen. The company controls 83 percent of Sprint, but it'd reportedly be willing to surrender control of Sprint and retain a minority stake in a merger with T-Mobile. PhoneDog reports: It's said that SoftBank is growing frustrated with Sprint's lack of major growth in the U.S. market, and so it wants to merge with T-Mobile in order to better compete with Verizon and ATT. No talks between SoftBank and Deutsche Telekom are currently happening because of the FCC's 600MHz spectrum auction that prevents collusion between competing companies. Once the auction ends in April, though, it's expected that SoftBank will approached Deutsche Telekom about a deal.

28 comments

  1. A fool and his money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    belong apart!

  2. Makes perfect sense to me. by mmell · · Score: 1, Insightful
    They'd rather hold a minority stake in something good than a majority stake in something crappy!

    It all comes down to two things - who has the most network bandwidth, and who has the most cellular bandwidth. Or just one thing - who can deliver the most bandwidth?

    FCC allocates cellular (radio frequency) bandwidth in the US. Backbone (network) bandwidth? That's strictly a matter of investing in infrastructure, so . . . who owns (or is owned by) how many politico's in power?

    1. Re:Makes perfect sense to me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sprint has FAR more spectrum than T-Mobile...especially since the acquisition of the 2500mhz spectrum from Clear. What they lack is customers.

    2. Re: Makes perfect sense to me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2500 MHz spectrum is only good outside with a pretty good path between your phone and the tower. T-Mo has good chunks of 2100 MHz bandwidth that end up being useless for anybody inside or in rain.

    3. Re:Makes perfect sense to me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      No, it comes down to why T-Mobile would freaking want Sprint and the baggage Sprint brings.

      Sprint doesn't attract customers because, aside from bandwidth, they haven't been able to beat T-Mobile on anything enough for people to move to them. People generally with T-Mobile are actually happy with T-Mobile; they put up with the lack of bandwidth because T-Mobile is perceived as a better customer service and having better plans and policies company.

      And T-Mobile needs to be careful. Sure, they'll get Sprint's customer base. But the whole softbank-Masa-Trump, right or wrong, will turn people off, esp the sort of customers T-Mobile tends to attract, esp with their independent style marketing. I don't say this simply because most people think Trump is a douche. T-Mobile experienced this when they were going to merge with AT&T--a lot of T-Mobile's customers were from AT&T, and AT&T was hell to them (AT&T is reportedly much improved since those times), and they bled customers simply on the announcement of the (later cancelled) merger. It doesn't help T-Mobile to absorb Sprint's customer base only to lose many of their own customers because the customers see the company going the wrong way. T-Mobile customers are known to want to be part of a "good" company and culture, something T-Mobile is perceived to have built the right way.

      Even Masa by himself, having a sizeable minority stake, is dangerous. Anytime you have a known bigger businessman waiting in the wings with himself or a handpicked replacement ready to influence or internally strike, it's a bad setup. Besides the influence, he's got the capital to make an internal push once there's any hint of a slip up. (Think Apple vs. NeXT, Daimler vs. Chrysler, etc.)

      If modern networks can share competing GSM derivate networks vs. Sprint's proprietary network, it'll bring T-Mobile some extra bandwidth and customers. But I just don't see why T-Mobile would bother with the baggage. There's too much risk of T-Mobile becoming more like Sprint than the other way around.

    4. Re:Makes perfect sense to me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let me be clear about something from the start. I used to be with T-Mobile, and if it were not for the fact that I got a better deal from Verizon through the family plan, I would still be with them.

      But if I were still with T-Mobile and Sprint bought it up, I would switch away the day it was announced. Sprint is a total deal-breaker to me - I can't say using polite words how much I detest Sprint.

    5. Re:Makes perfect sense to me. by ProzacPatient · · Score: 1

      What they lack is customers.

      That is because they're an awful anti-consumer organization from a bygone era. Why do you think T-Mobile has been pounding them in the dirt ever since they started this whole "Uncarrier" thing?

      If T-Mobile is allowed to be absorbed by some monolithic giant disconnected from its consumer base then I'm cancelling my subscription with T-Mobile. Should this happen it'll be a huge step backward for the cellular market, but heh if you can't beat 'em then just buy 'em out with an offer they can't refuse, right?

    6. Re:Makes perfect sense to me. by dougdonovan · · Score: 1

      i have a pretty sweet deal with metro pcs who is basicly owned by t-mobile. i hope they dont fuck that up.

  3. funny Japanese SoftBank mascot by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    those funny Japanese. https://www.dramafever.com/new...

  4. Welp. by HideyoshiJP · · Score: 1

    There goes my dream of sexy Japanese phones.like more Sharp Aquos phones or Fujitsu Arrows.

    1. Re:Welp. by John.Banister · · Score: 1

      Why? T-Mobile doesn't care who sold you your phone.

    2. Re:Welp. by SeriousTube · · Score: 1

      They do to some degree. Android Wifi calling for instance, only works with phones purchased from T-Mobile.

  5. Good evening!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fuckheads!

  6. Growth Mania by Princeofcups · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "SoftBank is growing frustrated with Sprint's lack of major growth in the U.S. market"

    What is wrong is a stable successful profitable company? It seems that everyone thinks that a company that isn't growing every year is not a good company. There's plenty of wealth and resources on this planet for everyone. The end goal is not to have one winner who owns everything.

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    1. Re: Growth Mania by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cell phone infrastructure is getting more expensive all the time, so a stagnant customer base means they can't really keep up with what those customers want.

    2. Re:Growth Mania by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they couldnt grow sprint what makes them think they will do better with t-mobile? Somehow magically t-mobile will do better if they own them? Sounds like they want out of sprint but have not found a su... I mean... buyer.

    3. Re:Growth Mania by Halueth · · Score: 2

      Duncan MacLeod might disagree on this one ;-)

    4. Re:Growth Mania by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well if a company isn't growing, the possibility stagnation and going down hill is higher

    5. Re:Growth Mania by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is wrong is a stable successful profitable company?

      You must be new here. A profitable stable company would benefit employees, less sophisticated investors, and of course the public. That's not how capitalism works. The idea isn't to compete and offer the best product like they lie to you in school about, the idea wherever possible is to eliminate competition. T-Mobile and Sprint have absolutely nothing in common besides that they're both cell phone companies. They have somewhat different customer bases (Sprint has a lot more of a business presence), they use different mobile technologies (huge deal there), different marketing strategies, etc. All Sprint would seem to gain by merging with T-Mobile is operational headaches and massive ones. Except they gain by no T-Mobile anymore and that's huge. Not just for them, but for Verizon and AT&T.

      Employees lose, non-speculative investors lose, customers lose big time as prices go up and data caps get re-imposed, etc. That's capitalism, and if people don't face up to it and do something about it this is all we'll ever have. We face up to it by making sure that we have proper rules, that these companies are forced to actually compete and innovate and denied the easy, unimaginative and totally MBA like out of buying each other up all the time.

      But..but...but regulation is bad! Yeah, and who tells you that? Oh, the paid shills for the people who want to eliminate competition, that's who. They'll be glad to sell you an overpriced T-shirt with an American flag and a patriotic slogan on it too. Sure, you can have stupid regulations. There are a lot of them. Funny though how those aren't the ones that get cut when people start in with "small government" initiatives. No, it's always the ones that actually make companies behave because the truth is they don't want to behave. They don't want to be stable. They want to take and take and take and never give and they want you to believe somehow that's noble and that anything else is communism or some other made up crap.

    6. Re:Growth Mania by stephenmac7 · · Score: 1

      I believe that's the point-- that "there's plenty of wealth and resources on this planet for everyone." If you're not working to create more wealth through growth then you're being left behind. When you get complacent and fail to grow (i.e. innovate), your competitors will eventually cut into your market and you lose. See A&P, IBM, etc. Fortune 500 1955 (Hint-- many of those no longer exist).

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  7. No by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    the whole point is competition. You're still effectively (and massively) reducing competition. What's more, this leaves them open to an AT&T style buy back scheme where they skirt around the rules.

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    1. Re:No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plus it helps to have a crappy company like Sprint in the lineup to make me feel better about paying more for Verizon.

  8. Sprint needs to sell spectrum, not F up T-Mobile by RubberDogBone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    T-Mobile doesn't need to be contaminated with a wireless carrier STD, which is what Sprint is these days. Sure the booty may be cheap but you don't want it.

    Taking some of Sprint's spectrum might be nice.

    But T-Mobile seems to be doing well with the spectrum they have and the customers they have, and gain, every quarter. All T-Mobile has to do to be successful is stay on the path. Buying Sprint would take them off that path and put them on a new one where they have two networks to deal with and two probably very different customer bases and two sets of retail stores and all the other overlap. It is a huge risk to T-Mobile that this will derail their success and instead saddle them with Sprint's mess.

    See what happened to Time Warner after it bought AOL. Two valued and successful companies now both worth a fraction of their prior values. They didn't sum. They subtracted.

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  9. Where are the choices? by Neuronwelder · · Score: 1

    Where's the competition if everyone is buddies with each other? Doesn't this kill innovation?

  10. No different than AT&T/T-Mobile merger... by SeaFox · · Score: 1

    The reason this should not happen are exactly the same as when AT&T wanted to buy T-Mobile -- there would be one less cell phone company, meaning less choice for consumers and competition among carriers.

    The recent activity on "Unlimited" plans (T-Mobile makes one with some dumb restrictions, Verizon makes another that's a little more expensive, but without those limitations, T-Mobile comes back with less restrictions than before to compete, Sprint comes out with a new plan, AT&T says "me too" because they are looking like a bunch of douches now) -- this is a prime example of what competition does. Competition that wouldn't be happening with fewer players.

  11. CDMA or not? by unixisc · · Score: 1

    Question is - for the pre-4G stuff - like when one is travelling in areas that don't have 4G, which standard will the phones follow - CDMA or GSM?

  12. Good way to eliminate a ton of jobs... by evilviper · · Score: 1

    You know what ALWAYS comes after a merger? Massive lay-offs. There's no reason to merge two companies if they have just as high costs as when they were operating separately, so eliminating now-redundant jobs is the key reason mergers happen. Approving that is going to make Trump look very, very bad.

    The merger was always an idiotic idea... Sprint and T-Mobile have no technology in common, nor do their services complement each other in ANY way... Nearly all the company's towers are deployed in proximity to the other's, so they're redundant and most would just have to go. At best, it would be like the MetroPCS buyout... T-Mobile would be buying the brand, stores, and customers, telling them all they need to replace their phones in short order, and shutting off the foreign network they don't want or need to bother maintaining. It really only serves as a legal way to kill-off a competitor.

    Of course Sprint just LOVES idiotic ideas. Nextel, WiMax, Clearwire, Tidal, etc. The more obviously idiot the idea, the quicker Sprint is going to jump at it, so they can start burning money even faster.

    They clearly think a merger with T-Mobile is a foregone conclusion, because they've completely given-up on improving their network. They announce upgrades, then cut the budget to not just a fraction of what they need to catch-up, but a fraction of what is needed to just maintain parity and avoid falling further behind their competitors. So Sprint's network keeps getting slower and slower.

    Some people have been saying it looks like SoftBank is spinning all their valuable assets off to subsidiaries that they control, but which aren't under Sprint, so as the company fails from the lack of investment, the other investors will get nothing, while SoftBank gets to keep or sell-off everything of value. But I believe it's just more of a delaying strategy... Keep Sprint limping along, but perpetually on the edge of failure, in hopes regulators will fear a (too big to fail) bankruptcy, and go along with a merger no matter how bad it looks for every one of the stakeholders involved.

    SoftBank made an idiotic investment. Sprint is worth rescuing, but they aren't interested or particularly capable of doing it. They deserve to lose their shirt. Then sell the company to somebody who's actually going to try to build it back up into a viable and competitive cellular carrier again.

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  13. China-owned. Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I left Sprint when SoftBank purchased 75% (and of course, when the shareholders decided to cash in and sell my business to a Chinese firm).... and I became a T-Mobile customer.

    Now I hear this news. Soon we won't be able to buy mobile service (or a smartphone, or a toothpick, or much of anything) without being a customer of China.