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Seven Film Studios Want 41 Web Sites Blocked By Australian ISPs (computerworld.com.au)

angry tapir writes: A group of film studios is undertaking what is set to be the most significant use so far of Australia's anti-piracy laws, which allow rights holders to apply for court orders that can compel ISPs to block their customers from accessing certain piracy-linked sites. A pair of rights holders last year successfully obtained court orders forcing Australia's most popular ISPs to block a handful of sites including The Pirate Bay. Now Village Roadshow wants to have 41 more sites blocked.
Village Roadshow joined six other studios in requesting an injunction Friday in federal court, reports Computerworld. And meanwhile, "a separate site-blocking application has been launched by Australian music labels, which are seeking to have Telstra, Optus, TPG and Foxtel's broadband arm block access to Kickass Torrents."

43 comments

  1. Have they talked with network engineers? Once? by sandbagger · · Score: 1

    The internet, as designed, will treat this like damage to be routed around. Most people probably won't notice or at best will encounter temporary outages. Yes, of course people should get paid, however this is playing whack a mole and not coming to a practical economic solution.

    How often do must we go over the same terrain. I guess, like masochists, they like it?

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    1. Re:Have they talked with network engineers? Once? by sheramil · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm guessing this is one of those situations where they need to be seen to be addressing the problem, even if their solution won't work. Hey, Village Roadshow - stop forcing people to sit through forty minutes of advertisements (most of them for the Village Roadshow Advertising service) and copyright warnings AT CINEMAS before you grudgingly display the content we paid for, and then we can talk.

    2. Re:Have they talked with network engineers? Once? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Total time it took me to get past last block. 30 seconds.

      Changed DNS servers. I shit you not.

    3. Re:Have they talked with network engineers? Once? by Gussington · · Score: 1

      however this is playing whack a mole and not coming to a practical economic solution.

      Like speeding laws, this type of policy is not designed eliminate a particular behaviour altogether. Even with radar, speed cameras and random speed traps, people still speed right? Do you think the police should give up and just let everyone do what they like because people still speed?
      By making it harder, you change the behaviour of the average person from casual offender, to premeditated, thus reducing the overall number of offenders. You also set a wider community expectation that this is not normal behaviour which which also has positive flow on effects.
      Removing easier access has proven to reduce consumption, whether it be alcohol, drugs, cigarettes, speeding or torrents. Why wouldn't you as a rights holder being infringed upon try to implement such a strategy that has shown to reduce such behaviour?

    4. Re:Have they talked with network engineers? Once? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup, use google's DNS servers, it also gets around the shit performance of a certain large ex-monopoly's resolvers.

    5. Re:Have they talked with network engineers? Once? by rtb61 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Content is so crap at the moment, most people wont notice because it is hardly worth bothering even for free. Why waste the bandwidth ;D. Sure share the good stuff but the crap, just let it die, ugh.

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    6. Re:Have they talked with network engineers? Once? by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      So now downloading a movie is being compared to threats of public safety?

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    7. Re:Have they talked with network engineers? Once? by Gussington · · Score: 1

      So now downloading a movie is being compared to threats of public safety?

      Good old internet, there's always someone looking for a fight for no reason...

  2. Big fat deal by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

    I want a pony.

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    1. Re:Big fat deal by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2
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    2. Re:Big fat deal by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      Why is that in a directory labeled "streetfighter"?

    3. Re:Big fat deal by antdude · · Score: 1

      Lisa Simpson, is that you? :P

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  3. Those idiots won't be happy until it's all darknet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Me neither.

  4. What a coincidence! by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I want theaters to block movies from seven film studios. I'm sure the studios will respect that, right?

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  5. That's too many torrent sites to look at. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can someone prioritize which of these 41 sites are worth bookmarking?

    1. Re: That's too many torrent sites to look at. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Rarbg is worthy.

    2. Re: That's too many torrent sites to look at. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks! Good site, didn't know it existed until now. Have these people not hear of the Streisand effect? :)

  6. ISPs don't care by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They're not really trying. When the 'law' came into effect, I found myself blocked from sites like 'thepiratebay.org'.
    I simply added Google's IPv4/6 DNS servers to my list. Haven't had an issue since.

    In other words, the ISPs are doing the *bare minimum* to comply with this, and the government aren't tech-savvy enough to know or care, or they figure it will stop 90% of casual users or something.

  7. It's only at a dns level by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bypassed the current filter in less than a minute.

  8. who uses torrents? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    usenet is where its at...
    "block" away - I get my shit elsewhere

  9. Twitch is one of them? by JDeane · · Score: 1

    I bet twitch is one? lol

    https://www.twitch.tv/depravo

  10. Thanks for the list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I did not know about some of those sites. The stupidity of these guys is really inveterate: after so many years of the Streisand effect, they have yet to understand what it is about.

  11. Don't like the censorship? I have a solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Instead of signing up and getting a temporary hack (like a VPN, and I'm in that business of selling VPN services so this going to sound f'd up)- you instead get off your butt and migrate to a place with people who think like you and are working at extinguishing the laws which attack our freedoms. Two sites to start with are http://www.shiresociety.com/ and http://www.freestateproject.org/ - it's an initial migration of 20,000 people for the purpose of pursuing a free society in New Hampshire. We've successfully migrated greater than 10% so far and are less than a year into the migration. We've got a bunch of state reps elected, gotten libertarians back on the ballots in New Hampshire, overturned laws banning videoing of police, repealed concealed permit laws, and brought about one of the most successful Bitcoin adoption drives in the world, plus gone from having anti-crypto legislation to legislation that'll be pro-Bitcoin and even ending some money transmitter regulations. We've got a large group here that's already anti-"IP" and want to end copy"right". We just need a few more people here and time to initiate laws to make IP unenforceable (short term) and gone long term (ie end federal funding of state, then revolution).

  12. Ever notice how Hollywood by Crashmarik · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is the tail that wags the dog ? At least when it comes to trade and foreign policy ?

    I have no trouble defending people's property rights but just how much does it cost to defend Hollywood's business model ?

    1. Re:Ever notice how Hollywood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... trade and foreign policy?

      A PotUS or SoS lands in Australia only to deliver orders regarding trade and military support. Australia complies but we never seem to benefit afterwards. Maybe that's why we were the first to trade with communist China and Vietnam.

    2. Re:Ever notice how Hollywood by currently_awake · · Score: 1

      Enough that they should be charging property taxes to pay for it. After all, it's the copyright cartel that wants copyright treated the same as real estate.

    3. Re:Ever notice how Hollywood by Solandri · · Score: 1

      I posted a brief analysis in a previous article (using the RIAA and MPAA's own numbers) showing how Hollywood tries to hamstring industries with a much larger economic contribution than theirs. And provided accounting evidence (using Sony's own annual reports) how their music division almost single-handedly killed their audio electronics division by forcing them to use DRM.

      I'm sure someone could do the same for global sales.

    4. Re:Ever notice how Hollywood by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

      Thanks intuition is nice, but numbers are much better.

  13. crowd source it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    let *us* know what these sites are you want blocked so badly, and we, the users, will be sure to hammer them to death with a ddos your companies won't ever get the blame for.

  14. Why this won't work ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... the maths:

    Seven Film Studios Want 41 Web Sites Blocked By Australian ISPs [about 20 ]

    Know what's smarter than seven film studios and about 20 major ISPs?

    20,268,164 Australians with a goddam computer.

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  15. Trainspotting by bigtreeman · · Score: 1

    has anyone seen a torrent link for Trainspotting II
    I can't afford a cinema ticket

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    1. Re:Trainspotting by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      has anyone seen a torrent link for Trainspotting II
      I can't afford a cinema ticket

      Then just wait. If you can't afford a cinema ticket, you can wait until it hits the video rental places and then rent it. If that's too expensive, and you have Netflix, you can wait for that too. If you still can't afford that, wait for it to be shown on TV for free.

  16. Kickass? by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

    That site went away quite some time ago! There is a "new" one, but it's NOTHING like the original. From what I've seen of it, block away.

  17. Hopefully there will be political consequences by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One can only hope the continued use of this piece of crappy legislation will be another stroke against the current government in Australia. The sight of our Attorney-General (highest govt law officer) with his tongue inserted in the collective backside of Hollywood corporations makes one think an alliance with China might be a better option for Australia than persisting with the present arrangements.

    Opera with the VPN option on defeats the "blocks" quite nicely.

  18. not enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unfortunately, this isnt enough to reduce wasted bandwidth on piracy. THATS what I expect to gain from this stupidity, cleaner int4rtub3z. fucking warezers and piratez. you arent entitled to anything.

  19. Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks for the help!
    I was searching for other websites to use.

  20. KAT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People are still using KickAss Torrents? Really? Wow. I guess I better fire up my Napster client and see if anybody is still using Napster.

  21. I will personally get all of them new addresses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Suck a dick.

  22. Have you talked to a high school geography student by dbIII · · Score: 1

    The internet, as designed, will treat this like damage to be routed around

    Australia is an island continent with a very small number of cables transferring data to Asia, across the Pacific and one across the Indian Ocean.
    Given that, go talk to a network engineer and ask them how trivial it would be to block things going via half a dozen gateways owned by something like three companies, two of which have substantial ownership by governments. The people on satellite links will be exceptions but there are not a lot of those. Even state to state links go through tight bottlenecks.

    The only reason things are not blocked properly is because nobody has put in enough effort (eg. pirate bay is blocked but some proxies are not), mainly because the people that know how to do it (apart from the DSD who want to block all encrypted traffic) do not want to block everything properly (and in the process piss off everyone using a VPN etc). It would be many times easier to implement than "the great firewall of China".


    A similar situation will apply to a rural area near you where everyone is at the mercy of the policies of whoever owns the single way in or out.

  23. Court orders: new source for pirate site names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some of these site names I didn't know before but now that the industry is publishing the names of sites that I shouldn't go to, I'm making a point of expanding my horizons, so to speak.

    Thanks to Seven Networks for helping me discover more worthwhile torrent/pirate portals :)

  24. Australia was by Neuronwelder · · Score: 1

    You know, there was a time when I used to look up to Australia, and admired the way the used to treat people. Then came the corporations..

  25. Wasting their time by Joolz50 · · Score: 1

    The ISPs just do DNS blocking. Switch to the google DNS and you are gold