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LG Unveils G6 Android Nougat Smartphone With a Compact 5.7-Inch QHD+ 18:9 Display (hothardware.com)

MojoKid writes: LG recently unveiled the new G6 smartphone, going completely back to the drawing board versus its predecessor -- the not so well-received G5. In its place is a very compact aluminum unibody design and a large 5.7-inch QHD+ display with a 2880x1440 resolution. That display is the main focal point of the G6, and it has a rather unorthodox 18:9 screen ratio, which LG says allows that smartphone to better fit in your hand. LG also notes that the aspect ratio is being adopted as a universal format from the likes of film studios and content providers like Netflix. Its thin bezel also gives the LG G6 an 80 percent screen-to-body ratio. The handset is powered by a Qualcomm Snapdragon 821 processor along with 4GB of RAM, 32GB of internal storage and a microSD slot, which can accommodate up to an additional 2TB of storage. LG also outfitted the G6 with dual 13-megapixel rear cameras: a wide angle (F2.4 / 125 degree) shooter and a standard camera (F1.8 / 71 degree) with optical image stabilization. The LG G6 launches next month and will be available in Ice Platinum, Mystic White, Astro Black color options. Pricing is TBD. Some other specs include a non-removable 3,300 mAh battery, USB-C connectivity, 802.11ac Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 4.2, fingerprint sensor and an IP68 water and dust resistance rating. It's also the first non-Google smartphone to come pre-loaded with the Google Assistant. How do you think the LG G6 compares to what we currently know about the soon-to-be-launched Samsung Galaxy S8?

111 comments

  1. 18:9 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Am I missing something? Why don't they just say 2:1?

    1. Re:18:9 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Meh. When they release a phone with a 100:50 ratio I'll be interested.

    2. Re:18:9 by by+(1706743) · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Likely just to make the comparison between the standard 16:9 easier. Comparing 16:9 and 2:1 is "less intuitive" than 16:9 and 18:9.

    3. Re:18:9 by OrangeTide · · Score: 2

      The original iPhone was 27:18 (or 15:10 or 3:2).

      We should probably approximate screen aspect ratios in decimal instead of as a fraction, it makes them easier for people to compare.

      16:9 -> 1.77:1
      16:10 & 8:5 -> 1.6:1
      18:9 & 2:1 -> 2:1
      21:9 & 7:3 -> 2.33:1
      4:3 -> 1.33:1
      5:4 -> 1.25
      64:27 -> 2.37:1
      CinemaScope -> 2.35:1 or 2.39:1
      15:9 & 5:3 -> 1.66:1
      IMAX -> 1.43:1
      11:8 -> 1.375:1
      CinemaScope 55 -> 2.55:1
      24:9 -> 2.66:1

      hopefully you take the longest over the shorted dimension (landscape) and not the portrait orientation that is the typical use case for phones. (people are as bad with reciprocals as fractions)

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    4. Re:18:9 by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      Am I missing something? Why don't they just say 2:1?

      Because that isn't 2674:1337 enough.

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    5. Re:18:9 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only to an innumerate population. Seriously, this is 2nd grade level math here..

    6. Re:18:9 by Bartles · · Score: 2

      Because 18:9 is BIGGER than 2:1. BIGGER!

    7. Re:18:9 by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Because bigger numbers are better! Only a loser will use a 2:1 screen. Real men? they have a 10,000,000:5,000,000 ratio screen!
      and it has a 330,000 uAh battery! DEAR GOD ITS HUGE! MOAR POWER!

      And all you thinkers can STFU! stop your freedom hating education and knowlege from getting in the way of FREEDOM!

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    8. Re:18:9 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      America did intentionally elect Trump, so yeah, it has to be dumbed down, way way down, for them.

    9. Re:18:9 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mine does 11:1

    10. Re: 18:9 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mine's 7

    11. Re:18:9 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You left out sqrt(2):1 -> 1.41:1, which is the basis for ISO 216 paper. It is arguably the best aspect for both landscape and portrait use.

      It is unfortunate that Apple abandoned 3:2 on phones, though thankfully they haven't regressed to 16:9 on laptops. Why no one is following Microsoft's example with 3:2 is a mystery.

    12. Re:18:9 by eliphalet · · Score: 1

      Like the Pixel C tablet.

  2. Non-removable battery by danomac · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That just guaranteed I won't buy it. I'll have to find another replacement phone when the time comes.

    1. Re:Non-removable battery by OrangeTide · · Score: 2

      LG V20 has a removable 3200mAh battery. But it's a beast (5.7" display)

      There are lots of other phones with removable batteries, but all the ones I found had smaller battery packs. (But perhaps better battery life in some cases)

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    2. Re: Non-removable battery by slaker · · Score: 1

      The G3, G4 and G5 are also supremely easy to repair. It's not just the loss of the removable battery, although that's also a huge issue. The G-series was a huge favorite for me because I could fix one in just seconds with nothing more than a precision Philips head screwdriver.

      But yeah, since I don't want a phone any larger than a G4 or G5 and I can't get both removable battery and SD reader, I guess I'm done upgrading my personal phone.

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    3. Re: Non-removable battery by slaker · · Score: 2

      The combination of removable battery and card reader was unique to LG over the past two model years of smartphones. They even based their marketing around providing both. It's a sad day for anyone who feels that both are essential to decent phone experience.

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    4. Re:Non-removable battery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The G6 is really not any better than the G5. They have the same CPU, same GPU, same amount of RAM, the G6 has a slightly better screen but the G5 has a slightly better camera and of course the G5 has a replaceable battery.

      Hell, I still have a G3 and I don't see any need to upgrade any time soon.

    5. Re:Non-removable battery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah well the reason I'm not going to buy it: it costs 800 freaking dollars.

      I'm in the market for a $150 phone.

    6. Re:Non-removable battery by Bartles · · Score: 1

      I'd take IP68 over a removable battery any day. It's very difficult to have both.

    7. Re: Non-removable battery by Bartles · · Score: 2

      IP68 and a removable battery is very difficult to do.

    8. Re: Non-removable battery by slaker · · Score: 1

      I'd rather have a removable battery. There's plenty of water resistant phones. Give me one that lets me swap the battery and storage.

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    9. Re: Non-removable battery by slaker · · Score: 1

      You have options already if that's what you need.

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    10. Re: Non-removable battery by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 0

      Yes, and now he has one more.

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    11. Re:Non-removable battery by dwillden · · Score: 1

      My view is just the opposite. Dating back to my first cell phone in 96, I have never sent a phone swimming. (Knock on wood). I have frequently extended the life of a phone by replacing a dying battery that won't hold a full charge anymore. Non-removable battery is a no-go. Water resistance is a gimmick.

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    12. Re:Non-removable battery by hipp5 · · Score: 1

      The G6 is really not any better than the G5. They have the same CPU, same GPU, same amount of RAM, the G6 has a slightly better screen but the G5 has a slightly better camera and of course the G5 has a replaceable battery.

      Hell, I still have a G3 and I don't see any need to upgrade any time soon.

      At least in my part of the world, G5s are super cheap right now. I just got one for $250 CAD (no contract). It's a great phone. Problem is, instead of marketing it as a great phone, they marketed the gimmicky "friends" modular attachments, and by all accounts it flopped. Their failure is my gain, I guess.

    13. Re: Non-removable battery by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      IP67 and removable battery isn't too hard, and I'd be happy with that. It's enough to save you from dropping the phone in a puddle.

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    14. Re:Non-removable battery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same here - no removable battery = no sale!
      I've had a G4 since July of 2015 and the main reason I chose it over other brands is they were the last Verizon compatible "flagship" phone with a removable battery. I am really hoping that LG makes an updated G20 with basically just a faster CPU and more RAM (although if they made it with "generic" Android so they could release patches faster that would be AWESOME!)

      PS: I haven't had any issues with my G4 showing this bootloop problem thus far (knocks on wood.) In fact I hadn't even heard of it until about a month ago when researching phones for my relatives.

    15. Re: Non-removable battery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Samsung S5 / S5 Mini

    16. Re:Non-removable battery by Mad-Bassist · · Score: 1

      Same here—the speaker on my 2007 Samsung u740 (before they called it "Alias") died and I made the transition to a smart phone last April. My #1 requirement was a removable battery, and I found the G4 to be what I needed. (The G5 was nice, but too big for my Carhartt slacks' phone pocket, and I didn't feel like I needed the modular features.)

      I don't really know if I'll ever need to replace the battery as I rarely go outside the 30-80% charge range (using the Ampere app as a charge alarm,) but I want my phone to last and have the option to replace or upgrade it to an 8500mAh ZeroLemon if size ever becomes unimportant to me. I also like the fact that the G4's fuel gauge chip (MAX17048) means there's no need to "calibrate" the battery and shorten it's life even further.

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    17. Re: Non-removable battery by danomac · · Score: 1

      My G4 phone has been great. I'm now at 21 months of use (and I use my phone a lot for work, I drain the battery completely before the end of the day) and it's now just starting to show signs of battery degradation. I remember hardly using it at all the one weekend (2 days) and it only dropped to about 82% or so.

      I guess when the battery finally gives out on my G4 I'll have to consider one of those big arse batteries.

      I had two Samsung phones prior (S1 and S3) and both phones showed signs of battery fatigue at the 13-14 month mark. By the 24 month mark the OEM batteries on my Samsungs were useless.

    18. Re:Non-removable battery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No it isn't. When it's rainy out, I just put my phone in a Zip-Loc bag and it stays dry.

  3. LOL WUT by sexconker · · Score: 1

    LG also notes that the aspect ratio is being adopted as a universal format from the likes of film studios and content providers like Netflix.

    Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... ...no.

    1. Re: LOL WUT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great comment. Do you have anything of value to add besides looking stupid?

      "LG said it drew inspiration for this format from Univisium, a fledgling film format that attempts to unify the various standards used in cinematography and television."

      "on Netflix, for instance, House of Cards and Stranger Things are both 2:1. "

      "The reason we asked is because 2:1 displays are actually great for VR, as they allow for the maximum use of the display."

      http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-g6-18-9-aspect-ratio-752499

    2. Re: LOL WUT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obligatory:

      https://xkcd.com/927/

    3. Re: LOL WUT by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Almost no one is adopting 2:1. It's anything but "universal".

      Content is created in all sorts of shit, with 1.85:1, 2.33:1 (21:9), 2.35:1, and 2.39:1 being the most common for film, and 16:9 being nearly universal for anything broadcast. The vast majority of content is delivered in / expects a display of 16:9.

      You may as well tell me that everything's going to be 48 FPS and 3D thanks to the critically acclaimed and monstrously popular Hobbit film trilogy. And I'm sure Samsung's 2017 4K TV lineup will all be 2:1, right?

      2:1 isn't happening. They can't even get 21:9 (fuck you clowns, it's 7:3) to take off.

    4. Re: LOL WUT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DPRK still is releasing 4:3 content (old lady in pink bathrobe announces the news). Fills up all the screen!

      I hope this phone shoots vertical 2:1 video, just so that you can enjoy it on your 25" 21:9 monitor.

      Aside, here's the billion dollar feature that would make a killing : make a phone that allows to shoot landscape video (or pictures) while holding it upright. What's so hard? The Koreans and GUI overlay developers spend billion man-years turning phones into Japanese toilet seats, but what about this simple feature or hardware capability?

    5. Re: LOL WUT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you have anything of value to add or are you just a scrawny little pussy faggot?

  4. 18:9 Display? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's the difference between an 18:9 display and a 2:1 display?

    1. Re:18:9 Display? by by+(1706743) · · Score: 2

      I suspect it's just "more intuitive" to compare 16:9 to 18:9 than to 2:1.

    2. Re:18:9 Display? by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 2

      What's the difference between an 18:9 display and a 2:1 display?

      $300

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    3. Re:18:9 Display? by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      What's the difference between an 18:9 display and a 2:1 display?

      Duh, obviously the former has 9 times more* pixels than the latter.

      *(Actually, it's 8 times more, or 9 times as much, in each linear dimension, so 81 times as much in total. But this is marketing, so don't worry about the techy details.)

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    4. Re: 18:9 Display? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      16:8

    5. Re:18:9 Display? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you're going for some kind of sarcasm, but I feel it's my duty to PSA for any numerically challenged PHB's that might be reading this site by reminding everyone that "times more" and "times as much" are the same goddamn thing.

      e.g. If something has the ratio 2 apples to 1 orange, then it's both "2 times more" and "2 times as much."
      (or If something has the ratio 9 apples to 1 orange, then it's both "9 times more" and "9 times as much.")

      The "times more" you know.

    6. Re:18:9 Display? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're laughing over market-speak logic, but here's a question for you... why did marketers go from "2K" to "4K" television screens when they could have been both more accurate and more impressive by going from (1920x1080=) "2MP" to (3840x2160=) "8MP" screens?

    7. Re:18:9 Display? by Jamie+Lokier · · Score: 1

      I expect the ratio comes from the TV technical industry, not LG marketing, and is used to indicate the number of pixels resolution is a good ratio to the original content's resolution when scaled. Notice how the ":9" corresponds to the 1440 pixel dimension, which is exactly twice the the 720 in 16:9 720P content.

    8. Re:18:9 Display? by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      Would you say that "50% more" is the same as "50% as much"?

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    9. Re:18:9 Display? by TeknoHog · · Score: 2

      You're laughing over market-speak logic, but here's a question for you... why did marketers go from "2K" to "4K" television screens when they could have been both more accurate and more impressive by going from (1920x1080=) "2MP" to (3840x2160=) "8MP" screens?

      Duh, megapixels are for digital cameras, that's got nothing to do with displays.

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  5. Stupid pixel race by harrkev · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This screen scores approximately 565 pixels per inch. The average human eye cannot make out this much resolution -- I know that my eyes can't at my age.

    Why pay for resolution that you can't see without a magnifying glass?

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    1. Re:Stupid pixel race by 50000BTU_barbecue · · Score: 1

      What if you do have a magnifying glass?

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    2. Re:Stupid pixel race by by+(1706743) · · Score: 1
    3. Re:Stupid pixel race by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 1

      I have used my phone as a lighted magnifying glass. So, when you start zooming in, yes, more PPI please...

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    4. Re:Stupid pixel race by guacamole · · Score: 1

      What are you talking about. A flagship phone must have a 4K screen and 10 core SoC.

    5. Re: Stupid pixel race by jsh1972 · · Score: 1

      VR applications... Not saying that's the case here as they really do better with AMOLED, but even with a 2k screen in a viewer like Samsung Gear VR you'll see pixels and jaggies.

    6. Re:Stupid pixel race by locopuyo · · Score: 0

      At 10 inches the average human eye can make out more than 650 ppi, and due to the shape and pattern of the subpixels the PPI would have to be a multiple of that to be completely unnoticeable.

      I have 20-10 vision and 534 PPI phone. I can discern the individual pixels.

    7. Re:Stupid pixel race by Bitmanhome · · Score: 1

      I went from a Note 2 (1280x720) to Note 4 (2560x1440) and I love the resolution. Everything is much sharper, and colors are super smooth precisely because I can't see the pixels.

      VR is another matter; 2560 is ok, 4k would be better, but the problem is Samsung's OLED screen has too much space between pixels. LCD screens look much better when under that kind of magnification.

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    8. Re:Stupid pixel race by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Err...the average human eye has 20/20 vision, which is one minute of arc per pixel (actually arc-minutes for a capital E). 1/atan(1/60 degree) is 3438, and 3438 / 10 inches = 344 ppi. Put another way, the average person would need to be within 3438 / 565 pixels = ~6.1 inches (~155mm) to resolve individual pixels on the screen in question.

      p.s. If you personally have 20/10 vision, that goes up to 20/10 * 344 = 688 ppi at 10 inches, and you should be able to resolve individual pixels on your phone at 3438 * 20/10 / 534 ppi = 12.9 inches. And yes, I'm assuming square, 100% black or white pixels. Subpixels and true color images change the equations, so your numbers may be correct for photos on phone screens.

    9. Re:Stupid pixel race by piojo · · Score: 1

      I'm speculating to some extent, but in many cases you don't actually WANT to see the pixels. You want to see a straight line where the pixels are actually jagged. You want to see smooth gradients, curves that curve, and circles that are the same thickness and smoothness at every angle.

      Of course, this problem was mostly solved by anti-aliasing and hinting, but my point is that you need many more pixels than the eye can pick out.

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    10. Re:Stupid pixel race by rl117 · · Score: 1

      No need to speculate. Lookup Nyquist-Shannon sampling, e.g. https://svi.nl/NyquistRate. The sampling frequency must be twice the maximum spatial frequency being sampled. This also applies in reverse on image reconstruction (display). The pixel frequency should be double the maximum spatial frequency the eye can detect, in order to avoid high frequency aliasing artefacts. Anyone complaining that "they can't see the pixels" clearly misunderstands the basics of digital imaging! Not being able to see them is the ideal situation, but up until now we have usually had to compromise unless viewing at a distance.

    11. Re:Stupid pixel race by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Because the industry is gravitating towards people strapping magnifying glasses and phone to their face. 565ppi is not high enough.

    12. Re:Stupid pixel race by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as you've zoomed in you only need the same 'normal' PPI - as long as the image itself is of high enough resolution, zooming in will display less of the image pixels so PPI doesn't need to be any higher

    13. Re:Stupid pixel race by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Print quality is 600 DPI for historical reasons, actually you only need about 500 DPI to look visually perfect up close. They went to 565 because that gives them a standard resolution.

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    14. Re:Stupid pixel race by harrkev · · Score: 1

      Just some math for you, for giggles. Don't read too much into it.

      Back when I was a kid, computer display used fonts of an 8x8 pixel matrix, and that was perfectly readable.

      Now, using 8x8 characters, you can get 70 characters horizontally and vertically in one square inch (plus a bit of a border). This means that you can fit 4,900 characters in one square inch, and they SHOULD be legible (maybe not comfortably).

      Hmmmm.

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    15. Re:Stupid pixel race by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      VR displays have those magnifying glasses built in. The 2:1 aspect for this use case actually makes, though human perception is close to 4:3, so 8:3 may be even better. While the resolution may be excessive for phones, at least something is driving forward the pixel density necessary for VR.

    16. Re:Stupid pixel race by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To avoid display artifacts associated with low resolution. Aliasing of sharp edges, text aliasing, color banding (Which is also affected by display color depth), motion artifacts. Just because you can't pick individual pixels out out doesn't mean you don't need them.

    17. Re:Stupid pixel race by samwichse · · Score: 1

      Daydream.

      My phone's 1440x2560 (538PPI), and in regular use, it isn't much different than regular HD resolution.

      But when you use it for Daydream, it's pixelated as hell.

  6. Arithmetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like someone never learned to reduce fractions.

  7. Crazy Displays by labnet · · Score: 1

    Wow, this is nuts.
    10 Years ago, I was working at 1920 x 1200 ... then because of hollywood most of us were forced to 1920 x 1080 and even more absurdly, mum and dad users were working at 1366x768 !!! For 10 years I waited and waited for the PC industry to bring out large hi res monitors... but again, it wasn't until the consumer 4k movement started, that PC manufactures started bringing out what I can only say is the absolute glory of 4k big monitors for programming.
    but why oh why would you want 4k on 5.5" screen , when dell and HP are still foisting sucky pixelated monitors on PC's. This phone is 564ppi when the eye can only resolve 300ppi. What a waste of pixels.

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    1. Re:Crazy Displays by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      Not so much a waste of pixels as a waste of processing power and battery life. There is really stupid waste in unnecessarily pushing around what amounts too invisible pixels. Basically marketdroid fuckwits in corporations taking over from engineers. Of course not user removable battery means a big no on the phone for me. When a phone manages to achieve an unstable state, nothing is more effective than popping the battery.

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    2. Re:Crazy Displays by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My favorite resolution ever was 1280x1024. I just love that shape.
      I hate hate hate the stupid long rectangle of HDTV. I don't know why people want it on their computer, let alone their phone.

    3. Re:Crazy Displays by Desler · · Score: 1

      10 Years ago, I was working at 1920 x 1200 ... then because of hollywood most of us were forced to 1920 x 1080 and even more absurdly

      1920x1080 as TV resolution is more than 20 years old at this point. It predates your 10-year-old 1920x1200 display.

    4. Re:Crazy Displays by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They do it at the behest of the carriers who tell them they will not sell their phones without 4K screens. The carriers want you blowing through your data cap as quickly as possible.

    5. Re:Crazy Displays by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      This phone is 564ppi when the eye can only resolve 300ppi. What a waste of pixels.

      Soon, we will reach Peak Pixel and then there will pixel shortages, leading to the Great Pixel War of 2030.

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    6. Re:Crazy Displays by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Mostly for stupid people.

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    7. Re:Crazy Displays by Dagger2 · · Score: 2

      You mean those Chinese engineers whose native language actually does benefit from high resolution rendering?

      Admittedly LG are Korean which probably benefits less for most of its characters, but I expect they're still interested in the Chinese (and Japanese) markets.

    8. Re:Crazy Displays by scdeimos · · Score: 1

      I don't know why people want it on their computer, let alone their phone.

      Because on a computer it's excellent in portrait mode for reading documents. At the moment I have a portrait screen on either side of my landscape screen. IDEs, Blender and video editors tend to stay on the landscape screen because their GUIs suck in portrait mode, but I keep reference documents open on each of the portrait screens for easy reading.

    9. Re: Crazy Displays by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 0

      Somebody should invent video compression!

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  8. "Compact" my ass. by SeaFox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not sure how you can call a phone compact that most people could not fit in their pocket without it sticking out.

    1. Re:"Compact" my ass. by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      I have pants with big pockets, you insensitive clod!

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    2. Re:"Compact" my ass. by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Camo pants have large side pockets on the legs. You can put a chain saw in them.

    3. Re: "Compact" my ass. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mightymartian is in the market for a new fagship phone. With an OctaFag SoC. That's 8 times more faggoty than before.

    4. Re:"Compact" my ass. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      I have pants with big pockets, you insensitive clod!

      This is Slashdot. Cargo shorts are the preferred format for pants around here. Except for the non-conformists, who wear jorts.

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    5. Re:"Compact" my ass. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you put a second chain saw in your other leg and turned both saws on at the same time, you'd be able spin away like the Road Runner. Beep, beep.

    6. Re:"Compact" my ass. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're actually map pockets, at least that was their original purpose.

    7. Re:"Compact" my ass. by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      I wonder if they still teach the map course to infantry. They should since in a real war the satellites will be one of the first things to go. No more GPS.

  9. shrinking screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    5.7" 18:9 is smaller than 5.7" 16:9

    1. Re:shrinking screen by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      Not necessarily a bad thing and kind of a selling point there.

      Maybe you can hold it with one hand, scroll text and get to see a usable portion of the page that's not obscured by your thumb.
      Might be great for portrait keyboard too (landscape keyboard might be shit, or maybe you can get a split one)

  10. Ok fags.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm on the market for a new phone as my iPhone is dying. So I'm done with iPhones, *if* possible. Are Android phones any good now? They were quite shitty back when they were kind of new and yet some people were already raving about them.

    1. Re: Ok fags.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No - they're not much better than iPhones.

    2. Re:Ok fags.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they are massively better than they were, but they still have that air of clunkyness from time to time which is irritating as it seems like a simple concept

    3. Re:Ok fags.. by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      Some might have shit software. It's just like the bad old days of a Packard Bell with Windows 98 and XP bundled with a ton of crapware. What about you get Norton Anvitirus, Real Player, Acrobat Reader preloading with system tray icon, Packard Bell / Acer / whatever "troubleshooting" and "driver" utility, sound card special configuration GUI, webcam shitware, get a printer and install the "helpful" bundleware, Microsoft Active Desktop, yahoo/AOL/Ask Jeeves/Packard Bell toolbars in Internet Explorer, all with 128MB RAM and a Celeron with 66MHz bus? (which were screaming fast specs a year ago)

      In those old days though, you installed a clean Windows from a warez CD (to save time), good drivers without "helpful" software (not included or crossed out in the installer), actually useful software like winrar, winamp, codecs etc. then that poor piece of crap PC was actually fast. You could also take your chance and clean up the crap manually without a reinstall (quit tray programs, uninstall crap, run msconfig, delete shortcuts)

      Well. If continuing the PC analogy, get 2GB RAM instead of 1GB RAM, get 3GB instead of 2GB RAM, get 4GB instead of 3GB RAM (depending on price points) and pay attention to storage speed benchmarks or reviews that complain about slow storage.

    4. Re:Ok fags.. by piojo · · Score: 1

      LG phones are not. At least, the LG G4 had a nearly universal motherboard/CPU problem that caused phone death, and LG was extremely unhelpful with repairs. Going back in time, the LG Nexus 4 had a list of design problems as long as my arm, though if you were lucky enough to get a late iteration of the device, that may not have been a problem for you.

      LG has not shown itself to be a trustworthy brand (to me personally), and even the three popular Chinese brands seem to produce a better product.

      Android phones still have a better UI in many ways, but iOS will soon be finished copying all of Android's best features. When that happens (probably with the iPhone 8 and its soft buttons), there won't be much of a strong reason to prefer Android.

      --
      A cat can't teach a dog to bark.
  11. COMPACT ?! It's Y.A. Enormophablet ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We want small, fat, 4-inch, quality phones that are robust instead of thin.

    Where are they ?!

    1. Re:COMPACT ?! It's Y.A. Enormophablet ! by sexconker · · Score: 1
    2. Re:COMPACT ?! It's Y.A. Enormophablet ! by flex941 · · Score: 1

      Sry, that's a lady's toy.

      What we want is something Sony Xperia Z1/Z3/Z5 Compact came pretty close. Approx 4.5", quite powerful, stays working after little rain, battery lasts quite long. Sony abandoned the concept in X series - Compact in that series lost the IP rating. What they should've done - add less plastic-y frame and back cover (fingerprint smudges only on screen please) and make the phone 2mm fatter to give even more battery power.

      But the marketing department knew better...

    3. Re:COMPACT ?! It's Y.A. Enormophablet ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Precisely. I wrote the grandfather comment and I have a Z3 Compact.

      Smaller but fatter, same processor and more robust is WHAT WE WANT !

  12. wireless charging? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would have totally gone with the V20 if it had wireless charging. It had everything else I require in a phone. Too bad.

    This one has even more negatives. Not only does it not have wireless charging. It also has a non-removable battery. Too bad LG, you lost another sale.

    Imagine if your car had a non-removable battery, or even tires for that matter.

    1. Re: wireless charging? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The nexus 5 had a "non removeable" battery.. I changed mine easily with a set of precision screwdrivers. . .

    2. Re:wireless charging? by DavidRawling · · Score: 2

      Imagine if your car had a non-removable battery, or even tires for that matter.

      Geez, don't go giving the car manufacturers ideas!

    3. Re: wireless charging? by Xamindar · · Score: 1

      Yeah and I'm fine with that as well. But many of the new phones are glued shut. No screws, no gaskets, just glue.

  13. LG Never Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    shitpost, see title

  14. Re: golden ratio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why cant all standardise on golden ratio 1.61:1

  15. Re:FREEDOM by hackwrench · · Score: 0

    Yeah. Zo told me recently that people were most afraid of control, which can be generalized to include control over themselves.

  16. Re:Control over themselves by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    And when I typed that, I was thinking of self-control. People are so afraid of control that they refuse to control themselves. Which of course encourages others to do the controlling for them.

  17. My take on the long rectangle by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Well, I can see the entire screen of my 32" TV I am using as a monitor, while out of the corner of my eye I can see the entire 40" room television.

  18. I see it is omitting the physical home button by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

    Lovely, I just love a phone I can't hold easily. I rest my thumb on my physical home button ALL THE TIME to stabilise the phone in my hand. That's INCLUDING the sling grips (google them) I use on the back of the case to keep it stable.

    Nothing more ghastly than a home button I can't rest on as it's thinking it's being pressed.

    I'm now in the minority on this, my current phone has it, the next Samsung is finally doing away with it (and I'll be doing away, with the next Samsung)

    I dislike this trend and I will spend my money where I can find what I'm looking for.
    This is otherwise a fairly stylish phone but basically utterly impractical.

    1. Re:I see it is omitting the physical home button by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, it's like how Rolex won't sell me a shock-resistant digital watch with 30 lap memory.

      Me: "I'll just buy a Timex Ironman."
      Rolex salesman: "Security!"

      Seriously though, this phone is a status symbol. It's not supposed to be practical. :P

  19. Re: google Pixel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But does it have a removable battery?

  20. Re: golden ratio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It would make too much damn sense.

    I can have my display in a landscape orientation and show two pages of european paper sizes nicely, good for desktop publishing and reading PDFs.
    I could also rotate my screen into portrait for a full screen view, while also having the ability to show two wide screen desktops top-and-bottom.

    The 16:10 aka 8:5 monitors were pretty close to this. There are some details with monitors and video encoding where you want the width to be a multiple of 16. And if you want to rotate the display, having the height follow the same constraints is nice too (but not strictly required). 1920x1200 being a popular 8:5 format, and 1680x1050 not meeting the constraints when rotated by also popular.

    But I think I'd rather have a 13:8 (1.625) aspect ratio than a 16:10 (1.6) or 1.61:1.

    possible resolutions for 1.625:1 :
    1952x1200 (not quite exact, but close)
    1920x1184 (very close)
    1664x1024 (exact - but kind of low res)
    2496x1536 (exact - and both are divisible by 16)

    55:34 (1.617647) is closer to the golden ratio (1.6180339887) but it seemed a little crazier to work with. But 2640x1632 was one nice one that worked out.

  21. Oops! I need some coffee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Haha, I don't know how I got golden ratio and sqrt(2) mixed up. But much of what I say was wrong.