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First Signs of Obesity In Some Arctic Groups Have Been Linked To Instant Noodles (sciencealert.com)

schwit1 quotes a report from ScienceAlert: Researchers have noted the first signs of obesity in the native ethnic groups of the Yamalo-Nenets region -- an autonomous district that sits on the coast of the Arctic Ocean in Northwest Siberia. According to local experts, obesity has not previously existed in these indigenous populations, but the first cases are now being reported, and a marked change in diet -- including instant noodles and pasta -- appears to be responsible. The Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug has a population of just over 522,000 people, whose ancestors have survived the permafrost for millennia. The nomadic Nenets and Khanty peoples have been herding reindeer up and down the Yamal tundra -- a 700-km-long peninsula that stretches deep into the Arctic Ocean -- for 1,000 years, with diets heavily based on venison and fish. But that appears to be changing fast, as researchers note the increasing uptake of chemically processed foods, such as instant noodles and pasta, and the addition of sugar, pastry, and bread to their diets. According to Titovsky, these changes -- which have only been occurring over the past few years -- have seen the intake of venison and river fish cut by half.

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  1. Subsistance?? by Daemonik · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nowhere in the article does it mention how many of these villagers were on the constant edge of starvation prior to having access to a more varied diet. It does mention they do shorter foraging routes than they did 25 years ago, but doesn't mention how that would reasonably mean they would starve without outside sources of food. Oh, and then there's the nugget that they are BETTER at digesting carbs and sugars than Europeans, which leads them to eat significantly more..

    This article is full of lies and half truths subby!

  2. Re:Taste Score by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't think that fresh fish and venison are generally regarded to be bad-tasting foods.

  3. Eat Fat, Get Thin -- Refined carbs makes you fat by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 5, Informative

    https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Fat...
    "Many of us have long been told that fat makes us fat, contributes to heart disease, and generally erodes our health. Now a growing body of research is debunking our fat-phobia, revealing the immense health and weight-loss benefits of a high-fat diet rich in eggs, nuts, oils, avocados, and other delicious super-foods."

    Don't forget your veggies though!!! And there are many plant sources of protein and fat...

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  4. Re:Dr. Atkins' fad diet by phantomfive · · Score: 2, Informative

    Around 50 million people have tried it and we aren't hearing any complaints from them.

    Heard plenty of complaints.

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  5. Re:and so the cycle continues. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yeah, then do the same with booze. Wow, how come nobody has thought of this before? We'll be so healthy!

    Alcohol taxes reduce consumption and reduce incidents of drunk driving. There is no reason to believe that a "sugar tax" wouldn't also reduce consumption. Mexico has a "soda tax" and has seen a decline in soda consumption. A 10% tax resulted in a 6% decrease in consumption.

  6. Re:Taste Score by dwywit · · Score: 3, Informative

    Pork belly + curing/smoking = bacon.

    Pork belly is fantastic without further processing, but it ain't bacon.

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  7. Re:Instant Noodles don't cause obesity elsewhere by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm often amazed at the size of servings in the US. When I go out, I usually have 2 courses, either a starter and a main course, or a main course and dessert. But in the US I sometimes struggled to finish a damn starter. When I travel there I usually order a main course and that'll be more than enough for me.

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  8. need to go somewhere by DrYak · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ingested carbs need to go somewhere. Brain consumes a bit, and the remaining part is the problem. If one has enough physical activity, carbs get burned in muscles. Otherwise, they are converted into fat,

    not quite.
    carbs don't just stay here waiting (like gaz in a car's tank)
    body will process them, depending on tons of hormonal messages.
    carbs will get used and making fat is only one of the possibility the body will choose.

    e.g.: if you do sports, not only will you burn carbs for energy during the sport, but you will raise the level of some growth hormone, encouraging your body to use the available resources to build more mudcles instead of storing them in long term.

    remain in bloodstream (this is diabetes) until cleared by kidneys.

    huh.. Nope. not at all.
    diabetis is absolutely not "the excess sugar in the blood".
    diabetes is mainly the signaling pathway that normally orders the uptake of the sugar being broken.
    the two types of diabetis are due to which step of the pathway is broken .
    (either the production of insulin, or the receptors that should.detect it)

    the fact that people who overeat have an increased risk of diabetis isnt due to extra sugar staying in the blood, it's due to the body getting desensitized tobthe insuline (mainly because to avoid having extra sugar in the blood the body will secrete extra insulin, but over time that extra insulin will down regulate the receptors, leading to the oathway not working that well anymore) (also fat tissue also secrete it's own signaling hormones. obese patients have so much of fat, that they produce excessive amiunt of some hormone and their signaling disturbs other pathway)
    so excess sugar isn't the cause of diabetes (and is actually correctly compensated at the beginning) it's the result of an insulin pathway that got fucked up, e.g. by the bad eating habits.

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