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For This Year's iPhone, Apple Is Ditching Lightning Connector and Home Button, But Embracing USB Type-C and Curved Display (wsj.com)

Apple has decided to adopt a flexible display for at least one model of the new iPhone, reports WSJ. From the report: People with direct knowledge of Apple's production plans said the Cupertino, Calif., company has decided to go ahead with the technology, and it will release a phone model using the OLED screens this year (Editor's note: the link could be paywalled; alternate source). The technology allows manufacturers to bend screens in ways they couldn't previously -- such as by introducing a curve at the edge of the phone as in some Samsung models. However, once the phone is manufactured, the OLED screen can't be bent or folded by the user, at least with current technology. Using OLED displays would allow Apple to introduce a phone with a new look to fuel sales. They said Apple would introduce other updates including a USB-C port for the power cord and other peripheral devices instead of the company's original Lightning connector. The models would also do away with a physical home button, they said. Those updates would give the iPhone features already available on other smartphones.

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  1. s7 edge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So they are making an s7 edge without a home button.

    1. Re:s7 edge by Ranbot · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yeah, who copies whose designs again?

      No kidding.

      The only way Apple could be innovative with edge screens would be if they wrapped around to the back...

      For me personally that feature is a negative, because there are times I purposely place my phone face down to avoid distraction of flashing notifications. When I want my phone to alert me of things, I place it face up [or on vibrate].

    2. Re:s7 edge by radiumsoup · · Score: 3, Funny

      actually, they copied that feature, too, it seems.

      http://www.news.com.au/technol...

  2. frist poast! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    new year new connector new headphones again!

    1. Re:frist poast! by harrkev · · Score: 5, Funny

      What is MOST amazing is that Apple is putting an INDUSTRY STANDARD on an iOS device. Is it snowing in hell yet?

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    2. Re:frist poast! by chewie2010 · · Score: 2

      All phones sold in the EU must be usb. "All mobile phones in EU to have the same charger: European Parliament votes on law in attempt to cut down electronic clutter. A single charger will have to be compatible with all mobile phones after a vote in the European Parliament".Mar 13, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...

    3. Re:frist poast! by dgatwood · · Score: 2

      Actually, the rule was that they had to be micro-USB. To comply with that law, Apple shipped a micro-USB to Lightning adapter in every product sold in Europe, at least initially. I'm not sure if they still do.

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  3. Apple finally adopts USB?? by NotInHere · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Has hell frozen over?

    1. Re:Apple finally adopts USB?? by unixisc · · Score: 2

      Well, very specifically, they did have USB Type A, and more recently, Type C on the Macs, but now, they've finally embraced Type C on an iPhone. Only thing they had never embraced was Micro USB. On one hand, this is a good change, given that mechanically, Type C is better than Micro USB. OTOH, there is a huge Micro USB infrastructure out there.

      I guess there could be a big interim market for Micro USB to Type C dongles, since the bulk of cables are the former, and the newer devices tend to be the latter. But I do look forward to when everything - iPads, iPods et al would be Type C, and the same on the Android and Windows Phones side of things.

    2. Re:Apple finally adopts USB?? by brianerst · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think the wording on the WSJ article is unclear and the more likely scenario is that the iPhone will continue to have a Lightning port but that the power adapter will have a USB-C port, i.e., a USB-C to Lightning cable will replace the USB-A to Lightning cable.

      This would allow iPhones to plug directly into MacBooks without buying a separate adapter (plus for Apple ecosystem) but require most everyone else to buy a new USB-A to Lightning connector (great for sales).

      I don't know about the data rates over Lightning, but I'd guess it would be more likely that they could tweak that and get the much faster USB-C data speeds as a bonus. Backing up your phone would be much faster.

    3. Re:Apple finally adopts USB?? by rcharbon · · Score: 2

      I think the wording on the WSJ article is unclear and the more likely scenario is that the iPhone will continue to have a Lightning port but that the power adapter will have a USB-C port, i.e., a USB-C to Lightning cable will replace the USB-A to Lightning cable.

      I hope not. The Lightning port is excessively prone to corruption. You can replace a cable when it goes bad, but I've had to replace two nanos because of port corruption.

    4. Re:Apple finally adopts USB?? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Apple with the great choices right there! There is nothing you need firewire for on a freaking iPod... Transfering files works just fine with what was already available and common, USB, and for audio everyone used the minijack, so why was firewire necessary?

      The iPod had a 5GB disk, quickly upgraded to 20GB. At the time, USB2 was nonexistent, so USB was limited to 11Mb/s, including protocol overhead (of which there was a lot). It would take an hour or two to fill the original iPod via USB 1.1, FireWire could fill the 20GB one in about 10-20 minutes. Once USB 2 was released, and widely adopted, Apple switched to that.

      And USB did power too, so that wasn't an argument either

      FireWire supported up to 40W of power. USB was limited to 2.5W (with many ports only providing 0.5W) at the time. Apple used a non-standard extension to get sufficient power over USB until it was finally standardised a couple of years ago.

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  4. Another new headphone connector! by nickovs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If this is true (it seems to be just a rumour) then it will be two years in a row that Apple made users' existing headphones obsolete. That would be brave/arrogant/foolish even by Apple's standards.

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    1. Re:Another new headphone connector! by burtosis · · Score: 4, Funny

      If this is true (it seems to be just a rumour) then it will be two years in a row that Apple made users' existing headphones obsolete. That would be brave/arrogant/foolish even by Apple's standards.

      No, this is a move that takes courage!

    2. Re:Another new headphone connector! by fred6666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They should have kept the 3.5mm jack at least until they switch to USB-C (and I would argue even after that). But dropping the 3.5mm jack before switching to a standard digital connector was stupid.

    3. Re:Another new headphone connector! by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Honestly the sooner they drop lightning and other proprietary connectors the better

      If we stuck to "standard connectors" we'd still be using micro USB. The creation of lightning showed that it's possible to make a more convenient connector for users, and thus we have USB C, whose biggest claim to fame is it goes in either way. Unlike say, a certain 4th dimensional rectangular connector at the other end that doesn't go in until the 3rd or 4th try.

      No, proprietary isn't as good, but sometimes if you want innovation, you have to allow it. If people didn't care about connector orientation, then we wouldn't have USB-C today.

  5. About time by MrLogic17 · · Score: 2

    It's abuot time they had the courage to use an existing standard on iPhones.
    Still no headphone jack though - and yes, I'm still bitter.

  6. Sealed for freshness by MrLogic17 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sounds like with the addition of wireless charging, lack of headphone jack, and removing the home button - they are on track to make a phone that is a totally sealed slab. Once the last remaining physical connector goes away, it would be trivial to make a waterproof, dust-proof device.

    Side benefit for Apple - even harder to replace the battery.

    1. Re:Sealed for freshness by Megane · · Score: 2

      If only someone would make a magnetic charger adapter for USB-C...

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    2. Re:Sealed for freshness by dj245 · · Score: 2

      it would be trivial to get rid of the connector, they already have magsafe yet the morons there ditched it for the inferior Usb-C.

      Dont expect real innovation from apple anymore. the left overs in job's office are now gone, it's all about profits and margin now. Even Johnny Ives is phoning everything in now.

      My IP69-rated Sonim XP6 phone has a magsafe charging connector. It also has a headphone port (with a cover).

      Headphone ports are not that difficult to seal. The Galaxy S4 Active and S5 had waterproof headphone jacks, and they didn't even need a cover to do it.

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    3. Re:Sealed for freshness by jabuzz · · Score: 2

      Sony have been doing waterproof 3.5mm stereo jack sockets for more than 30 years now. Can't remember at what point they lost the covers but it has been probably a decade at least. You can even get fully waterproof microUSB connectors that don't need a cover and I imagine someone already has a waterproof USB-C without a cover too.

  7. USB-C seems odd by swb · · Score: 2

    For all of their hype about courage, design, etc, I've always subscribed somewhat to the idea that Apple like proprietary because it drives more marginal revenue for them via licensing and (at least initially) single-source supplier status on some aspects of their hardware.

    Which makes it seem strange that they would abandon Lightning for an industry standard connector. Dropping 30 pin connectors made sense from a practical perspective, and IIRC, they have some kind of proprietary chip in them which enables Apple to get a licensing cut (or guarantee quality standards, depending on how you like your kool-aid).

    A standard connector would end their relative monopoly on cabling.

    The rest of it -- virtual home button, etc, I'm totally willing to believe. The home button would actually be in keeping with their stated goals of removing bulky fixtures and connectors.

    1. Re:USB-C seems odd by Nemyst · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Removing Lightning would also significantly remove the lock-in factor and their large 3rd party peripherals advantage. Not only would people have to buy iStuff-compatible hardware for the third time in a row (which would most likely lose them some people), the new hardware would support Android phones on a hardware basis, making it quite easy for Google to just add support for the peripherals in Android. Suddenly all of those iPhone exclusive sound docks, car docks and whatever else become universal.

      I frankly don't see that happening. Only thing I can see would be them bundling a USB-C cable and charger at the other end.

  8. iOS - WebOS? by oneiros27 · · Score: 2

    They've had the ability to have multiple apps open at once, and to copy & paste between them for some time now.

    The change to 'push home button to unlock' is relatively recent, and the switch to a lack of button had been done 5+ years ago on the Pre3. (might have been on the Pre2 as well, I only had the Pre & Pre3). And they finally get wireless charging, which was an upgrade for the Pre (released in 2009).

    The UI became more WebOS-like, switching to cards that you can sort through rather than the strip of icons at the bottom of the screen. (although it's still one card per app, not one stack of cards per app, with related windows stacked together, even if it's the MS Word reader and the web browser stacked w/ mail, as that's how you opened those windows).

    Now they just need to make the notifications less crappy. An alarm that you can shut off by grabbing for you phone while half asleep? Who's stupid idea was that? .... and I'm wishing I had held out for the blackberry. Finally made the cutover to iPhone this weekend, after trying to get used to it for a few months while the Pre3 was my main phone.

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  9. Hello? Is this thing on? by nightfire-unique · · Score: 5, Interesting

    *Taps mic*

    *Clears throat*

    I have a lot of money to spend on a device, since I only do so every 4 or 5 years.

    Could some "brave" soul please take a break from curving displays, gluing batteries, and adding bling to their phones, and address my market segment?

    I really want to give someone my money.

    For it, you will need to build a device that:

    - Has a user-swappable battery, preferably with an ultracap allowing hot replacement. It's not really a hard to do. - Is too thick. I want pundits to reel. I want trash talk. "What kind of fashionista would buy this?" - Lasts 48 hours on a charge most days, and cannot self-discharge within 16 hours with all radios active and CPU bouncing off the thermal governor - Speaks all radio protocols fluently, with dual sim support - Is IP67 - Has a barometer, thermometer, hygrometer, full IMU with a razor sharp compass, GPS and GLONASS - Has both USB-C and MicroUSB on the bottom - Has great speakers - Has 4gb or 6gb RAM, and the best CPU currently available - No onboard storage.. just two raid1 MicroSD card slots with a battery-backed memory buffer Name your price. Since I don't let carriers leach my money away on phone contracts, nor do I toss out my phone every year, I (and a sizable market of people like me) have a lot of money to spend on a truly flagship device.

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  10. Re:Hello? Is this thing on? by hipp5 · · Score: 2

    I think you overestimate the size of the market of people like you. Buuuut I digress. Have you looked at any of the OnePlus phones? The 3+ doesn't have everything you're looking for, but it's probably the closest you'll get.

  11. My prediction by Mr_Silver · · Score: 2

    It'll be called the iPhone 7S and 7S+. It'll have the same design as the iPhone 7/7S, same connectors, slightly faster processor, slightly better camera, slightly better battery life, slightly better video performance, slightly better network support and iOS 11.

    You know, like they've been doing since about 2011 when they first introduced the 4S.

    At which point, we'll see that people who have "knowledge of the matter" really don't have any at all.

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  12. Re:Hello? Is this thing on? by hipp5 · · Score: 2

    Well I'd go for that phone he wants. So there's at least 2 of us. :)

    I suspect many people on this site would. But Slashdot is its own little niche.

  13. Curved screens... by Bartles · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...are a hideous example of function following form. The curve makes it difficult to protect the phone, and do not improve functionality in any way. It's something that needs to go away.

    1. Re:Curved screens... by green1 · · Score: 2

      Not to mention the impossibility of actually holding the thing without accidentally registering touch events on the screen that is now on the sides of the phone where you are supposed to hold the thing!

      The "edge" screen is one of a number of reasons why my current Note4 will likely be my last Samsung device.

  14. Re:Hello? Is this thing on? by nightfire-unique · · Score: 2

    Memory-backed microSD storage is significantly faster than NAND storage in all but edge-case scenarios.

    RAID-1 array of microSD cards is significantly more reliable than NAND storage.

    Seriously dude or dudette, what are you smoking?

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  15. Re:go green - don't buy glued battery! by kiviQr · · Score: 2

    Please do not compare open back case and replace battery with use a heat gun, pry carefully a glass back, 15 minutes later if you are lucky and did not break anything, dissemble a number of components to remove a battery. Been there done that, no more, thank you! Re: "spouting misinformation" and "All of those things that have replaceable batteries are unable to make phone calls or write texts" - no comments.