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NSA Risks Talent Exodus Amid Morale Slump, Trump Fears (reuters.com)

Dustin Volz and Warren Strobel, writing for Reuters: The National Security Agency risks a brain-drain of hackers and cyber spies due to a tumultuous reorganization and worries about the acrimonious relationship between the intelligence community and President Donald Trump, according to current and former NSA officials and cybersecurity industry sources. Half-a-dozen cybersecurity executives told Reuters they had witnessed a marked increase in the number of U.S. intelligence officers and government contractors seeking employment in the private sector since Trump took office on Jan. 20. One of the executives, who would speak only on condition of anonymity, said he was stunned by the caliber of the would-be recruits. They are coming from a variety of government intelligence and law enforcement agencies, multiple executives said, and their interest stems in part from concerns about the direction of U.S intelligence agencies under Trump. Retaining and recruiting talented technical personnel has become a top national security priority in recent years as Russia, China, Iran and other nation states and criminal groups have sharpened their cyber offensive abilities. NSA and other intelligence agencies have long struggled to deter some of their best employees from leaving for higher-paying jobs in Silicon Valley and elsewhere.

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  1. Re: All my friends in NSA are looking by pr0t0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Or maybe the bar for what is morally questionable for Joshua's friend is just at a different point than Edward's. While what Snowden revealed was awful, it wasn't entirely unexpected. It makes you wonder how much worse (and maybe unexpected) it can get if there's still a middle ground for Joshua's friend to operate in with a clear conscious.

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  2. Re:All my friends in NSA are looking by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is completely anecdotal; I'm a mathematician and I know a lot of people who work for the NSA. Almost every single one of them right now is quietly or not so quietly looking for other work. At least one of them has an undated resignation letter in their desk ready to go if they are asked to do anything that they find morally questionable (and this is someone who has generally defended NSA's actions in the past).

    So, he was fine with Obama doing anything illegal, he's just worried about Trump.

    As someone else said, your "friend" is a liar and a hypocrite if he stayed on past Snowden's revelations.

  3. Re:This happens with every change in administratio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Stop being so damned reasonable.

    This is another opportunity to blindly bash Trump and up our leftist street credentials with no evidence whatsoever, just some anonymous reports with no numbers in them which can't be refuted or intelligently discussed because this entire story is completely anecdotal.

    Anecdotal trumps Trump! Or something like that.

    Now where's the slashdot story about how Bill Nye got schooled by Tucker Carlson over global warming? We haven't given the mindless left a chance to down mod intelligent people over climate change on slashdot in a while.

  4. How is this a bad thing? by Syncerus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not to be a smartass, but do we really want our best and brightest in the NSA? Whether you are politically left, right or agnostic, the surveillance state should be a serious concern for all those who value privacy and liberty. This isn't a Bush, Obama or Trump thing: this is an individual rights thing.

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  5. Re:All my friends in NSA are looking by Notabadguy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They've been looking since the Snowden revelations tanked morale. During Obama's tenure. In fact, it was in the news, here on slashdot with an almost identical headline, minus the trump bit.

  6. Re: All my friends in NSA are looking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Maybe they were waiting for a new president to get elected and actually fix the problems, and now that we have Orange Hitler they realize it's not going to happen. It's easy to call someone a hypocrite when you're not in their shoes and know nothing about the situation.

  7. Re: All my friends in NSA are looking by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While what Snowden revealed was awful, it wasn't entirely unexpected.

    That's not damning with faint praise, that's just damning...

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  8. Re:Obama Loyalists by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As you pointed out, it's completely anecdotal.

    So, just like half the "news" in the mainstream media, eh? "An anonymous source" blah blah blah. If that is good enough, then surely a comment from a long-time slashdotter will do?

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  9. Help them leave by s.petry · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Before I begin, I will say that my opinion would be the exact same no matter which party held the office. The NSA is not supposed to be a political entity, it is supposed to serve the American people as a whole. Any person in any agency that refuses to support the current administration should absolutely leave, and do so in a hurry. Any person in the agency being forced to work against the interests of the current administration should blow the whistle on the people making demands which harm the Country.

    While we have seen some churn in every administration change, what I notice quite differently with this one is that agencies believe it's okay to damage the country instead of just leaving their job. I spent a decade working DOD and experienced numerous administration changes. Taking a crap on administration was never before seen as okay, yet that is what the current leaks are designed to do.

    Another anecdote to consider is that my family was mostly Democratic party members. The behavior of the Democratic party for the last several months has pushed every single one of them away. The current behavior has turned them into enemies of the Democratic party. That sentiment is being echoed across the country as they continue to try and destroy the current Administration. The Democrats continuing to push hard for identity politics is going to continue to diminish support. Look at their visual in the message last night in the Response to the Presidential address to Congress. What image does a bunch of elder white people from the South, all sitting with stern faces, project? Racial harmony sure didn't come to mind. (these shots are well planned, not impromptu)

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    1. Re:Help them leave by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Any person in any agency that refuses to support the current administration should absolutely leave, and do so in a hurry.

      Those people are hired to serve their country foremost, not their president.

      Taking a crap on administration was never before seen as okay, yet that is what the current leaks are designed to do.

      We The People must distance ourselves from Trump if we are to retain any credibility.

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  10. Re: All my friends in NSA are looking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While what Snowden revealed was awful, it wasn't entirely unexpected.

    No, it wasn't unexpected, but prior to that, there was plausible deniability. We all suspected, but couldn't be sure.

    Now we know (without any tinfoil) they routinely commit criminal activities against the people of USA, and since none of them have been arrested and charged, everyone can be pretty sure that it's not going to stop.

    Snowden hasn't even been pardoned yet. Right now, all we have are presidents supporting the NSA in its conflict against The People, and when your boss says "keep doing that" then you're going to keep doing that. Pardoning Snowden would be a no-brainer fundamental easy thing to do, whether you're going to actually have the org start flying straight, or even just pay lip service and continue the criminal activities under the radar. Until it happens, NSA is perceived as openly anti-American. If you work for the NSA, most people think that you're a crookl, even if you're just a receptionist with no power who never breaks the law.

    Yes, they probably do things for us. But they have this unresolved scandal. Nothing Nixon did could ever possibly matter until Watergate was resolved. Justice must be served.

  11. Seems like improvement... by mi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    acrimonious relationship between the intelligence community and President Donald Trump

    Yeah, stop leaking the White House staff's communications to press, you "Deep Throat" wannabes...

    said he was stunned by the caliber of the would-be recruits [applying for private sector jobs -mi]

    This part, actually, sounds great — consumer's technology gets a chance to improve beyond the government's ability to spy on us.

    And not just American Government's — by far the most benign of the three — that of Russia and China as well.

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  12. Sounds like great news. by Tulsa_Time · · Score: 1, Insightful

    More open positions for non-SJW CS, math and Cyber security professionals.

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  13. Re:Why Now? by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, an agency like the NSA does do more than one thing, you know.

    This is called the selective attention fallacy. We all know that the NSA does many legitimate and non-controversial things. We just act like everyone there is involved in the controversial ones.

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  14. Morale problems, eh? by king+neckbeard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I feel SO SORRY that the professional constitutional and human rights violators aren't feeling all that chipper about their work.

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  15. Re:All my friends in NSA are looking by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When Trump took over, the world's most powerful surveillance system fell into the hands of a madman. The guy is paranoid, he seems to honestly believe that Obama has been organising leaks from his administration and other crazy things. He's probably compromised by Russia.

    We are way beyond Snowden now.

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  16. Re: All my friends in NSA are looking by Enigma2175 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh, they are pushing for backdoor-less crypto while simultaneously paying RSA $10 million to put a backdoor into their crypto? Yeah, we should really just trust these guys, I'm sure they would never use that backdoor for anything but pure good.

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