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Why Typography Matters -- Especially At The Oscars (freecodecamp.com)

An anonymous reader shares a blog post: There's one thing the Academy possibly didn't consider, or forgot, for this year's winner cards: typography. First, it's legible, you can tell all the letters apart. Second, it's somewhat readable, but the visual weight of "Moonlight" and the producers are equal and blend together. Lastly, even though it is just a winner's card, it's not visually appealing. I think it's fair to say it's objectively bland. That's horrible typography. Of course, anyone could've made the same honest error! You are on television with millions of people around the world watching. You are a little nervous, and you have to read a card. You will most likely read it from top to bottom (visual hierarchy) without questioning whether the card is right. That look on Warren's face was, "This says 'Emma Stone' on it." Faye must've skipped that part and was caught up in the excitement and just blurted out, "La La Land." I don't blame Faye or Warren for this. This was the fault of two entities: whoever was in charge of the design of the winning card (Was it really a design? C'mon), and the unfortunate person who handed them the wrong envelope. A clearly designed card and envelope (don't even get me started on that gold on red envelope) would've prevented this. The blogger, Benjamin Bannister (a creative consultant for old and new media), adds that there were essentially three things wrong with the card in question: Oscars logo need not to be at the top of the card. The category, "Best Acress" was at the bottom, and in small print. And, the winner's name, the main thing that should be read, is the same size as the second line and given equal weight.

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  1. Create multiple barriers to failure by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Print the category in bold easy to read type on the outside flap of the envelop where the presenter sees it while opening the envelop.

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    1. Re:Create multiple barriers to failure by CaptainDork · · Score: 5, Funny

      Splash it on a big screen and let the audience read the answer in unison like on Family Feud.

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    2. Re:Create multiple barriers to failure by Sloppy · · Score: 1

      Put the whole list on a publicly-available web page, and then fix the page if someone notices and reports an error.

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    3. Re:Create multiple barriers to failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cancel the Oscars altogether, it's rigged anyway.

    4. Re:Create multiple barriers to failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You may be on to something there. That's worked for Steve Harvey for years. However if you ask him to read the winner from an envelope it's a crap shoot.

    5. Re:Create multiple barriers to failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will be know as the "The Steve Harvey Rule"

    6. Re:Create multiple barriers to failure by known_coward_69 · · Score: 2

      it's already been done. the auditors are supposed to memorize all the winners in all the categories. but word on some TMZ type blogs is that the two partners assigned to the event this year were too busy snapping pictures and looking at the stars and their near naked bodies

    7. Re:Create multiple barriers to failure by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 2

      it's already been done. the auditors are supposed to memorize all the winners in all the categories. but word on some TMZ type blogs is that the two partners assigned to the event this year were too busy snapping pictures and looking at the stars and their near naked bodies

      True, but memorizing the names doesn't fix giving out the wrong card. All it does is ensure a mistake gets corrected.

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    8. Re:Create multiple barriers to failure by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      Send an Amber Alert, a Weather Bulletin, and a Tweet to the whole goddam planet.

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    9. Re:Create multiple barriers to failure by Salgak1 · · Score: 1

      Best Picture of 2016, 4 nominees on the board, survey says ????

      (evil grin)

    10. Re: Create multiple barriers to failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Careful you have two strikes, the Manson family can steal it here.

    11. Re:Create multiple barriers to failure by Megane · · Score: 1

      That and the very design changes in TFA were literally the first thing I thought of when I heard about the fiasco. (I had to hear about it, because I can't be arsed to care about the crap that comes out of Hollywood these days, so I was watching something else.)

      Seriously, they put the thing that would have just been read before opening the envelope ("Best Actress") at the bottom of the card in mice type? If it were at the top, the error would have been instantly obvious.

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    12. Re:Create multiple barriers to failure by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      It wasn't "bold easy to read type", but it WAS on the outside of the envelope (though the front I think), even easily visible in the pictures from TV screens.

      So I think after Warren realized something was wrong, he had looked at both sides of the red envelope, he would have seen "Best Actress" on it.

      BTW, in the discussion afterwards, I did see a clip of Sammy Davis, Jr., being given the wrong card once too -- it was from an earlier category.. (Then he made a joke about the NAACP hearing about this.)

    13. Re:Create multiple barriers to failure by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

      It wasn't "bold easy to read type", but it WAS on the outside of the envelope (though the front I think), even easily visible in the pictures from TV screens.

      So I think after Warren realized something was wrong, he had looked at both sides of the red envelope, he would have seen "Best Actress" on it.

      Good points. It does have the award on the front of the envelope; which illustrates how cultural norms, i.e.we write address and names on the front of envelopes, not the back, interferes with good human factors which would place the critical information on the back of the envelope where it would be seen while opening it. The presenters hold the envelope with the front to the audience so they may not see the category before opening, couple that with an expectation they have the correct envelope and you can see why an error can occur. I agree Beatty might have caught the error had he looked at the front but it's poor human factors design, IMHO, to expect the operator to take action to clarify a situation when better design places a better barrier to prevent an error.

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    14. Re:Create multiple barriers to failure by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Human factors. Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time, a long time.

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    15. Re:Create multiple barriers to failure by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      There are multiple allegations here, and multiple mistakes. As far as I can tell, the list of mistakes is as follows:

      1) Brian Cullinan, one of the representatives from PwC, was distracted backstage by Emma Stone getting her picture taken. Minutes before the snafu, he tweeted a picture of her that he took, a tweet that has been deleted. He says the tweet was not a distraction.
      2) Brian had Emma's backup envelope in his hand, a red envelope with gold lettering in the middle that read "Best Actress in a Leading Role." You can freeze the broadcast and see the "Best Actress" on the envelope when Faye Dunaway holds it. Neither Brian Cullinan nor Warren Beatty noticed the front of the envelope said "Best Actress" in gold print on the envelope. Maybe Beatty did notice it and that partially led to his confusion with the envelope.
      3) Beatty also didn't notice or misinterpreted the "Best Actress" on the card, or that it was just Emma Stone listed on the card.
      4) Faye Dunaway misinterpreted Beatty's confusion, playing smacking his arm and saying "Oh you, you're the worst!" She seemed to think he was hamming it up, so when he showed her the card, she wanted a quick announcement and shouted out what she saw. She saw "La La Land," that was a best picture nominee, so it was reasonable to her.
      5) Brian Cullinan and the other PwC accountant were slow to act -- stage managers said they "froze" when they realized the wrong name had been called. They might have been able to stop the nonsense before the acceptance speeches.

      So, many opportunities in the chain to realize a mistake had been made, many failures to act before it was too late.

  2. " Faye must've skipped that part" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Wrong.

    There was a whole backstory of Faye and Warren fighting over who got to read Best Picture. Warren eventually conceded to her; he would open the envelope, and Faye would read the name.

    When he looked at the card and started stalling, Faye freaked out that he was going to read the name, so she read it as soon as she was able to see the title.

    1. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Plus - Warren had apparently presented two times before, had a rough idea what he was looking for; you can see his confusion. Faye apparently had never presented before, had less of an idea what should "look" right. A quick glance at the card, she saw and read the title.

      Plus, the category is as the article mentions, in tiny type at the bottom of the card. Presumably both these old fogies were not wearing their reading glasses. (76 and 80 years old) The category may have been the least readable part of the card, as well as not being prominent.

      Another point was the envelope exterior had the category as gold foil on deep red, rather than the traditional deep red on gold... Making the category even less readable on the outside, assisting in the mix-up.

    2. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And literally no one cares.

    3. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by g01d4 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      And literally no one cares.

      Well, yes and no. While few may actually care what won best picture, more might find the idea of this type of human error involving a simple task finding its way into an such an expensive, over produced media event to be interesting. Poor procedural planning, a cellphone distracted starstruck flunky, and now poor typography. I guess we now know what could go wrong.

    4. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Who. The. Fuck. Cares.

      A mistake was made about a contest between films for a nebulous "best picture" award that means absolutely nothing when no one is going to remember the name of the winner in 10 years because almost no one saw the film.

    5. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Literally means figuratively, so stop using that adjective. It has not just lost its force, it lost its meaning as well.

      No, "literally" literally means literally.

    6. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, typography, etc., kind of important, but the article is yet another piece of designer wankery.

      Presenters who simply know how to read, and apply the skill, priceless.

    7. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 0
      Nope. The dictionaries have added

      informal used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while not being literally true. "I have received literally thousands of letters"

      emphasis mine.

      http://theweek.com/articles/46...

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    8. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Literally means figuratively

      You are literally incorrect.

    9. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by gnick · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Since the word has literally changed meanings, it seems to me that you can now use it literally or figuratively. There is literally no reason to abandon it.

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    10. Re: " Faye must've skipped that part" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In 10 years time people will remember Spotlight won. Not because they saw the film; because of this stuff up.

    11. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Godwin+O'Hitler · · Score: 0

      OK I can admit the use of the word literally is now often hyperbolic.
      That just leaves the problem of what word to use for unfiguratively literally; I kid you not.

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    12. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      Documenting an incorrect usage doesn't mean it is valid to use that.

      It'd be like if, after several decades of use, some committee sponsored by drive makers rightly sued for false advertising, declared that 1KB instead of 1024 bytes suddenly means 1000.

      A word with two distinct meanings in the same domain is worthless.

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    13. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by xevioso · · Score: 1, Interesting

      But they will see the film now.

      In addition, I am not sure what industry you are in, if they give out any sort of performance awards, literally no one cares...except the people in your industry.

      In Hollywood, not only do the people in that industry care, but tens of millions of people care who watched it.

    14. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So we have a useful benchmark to determine when a dictionary is corrupt to the point of being useless, then?

      Too bad you yourself don't pass the threshold of usability.

    15. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by bws111 · · Score: 2

      Yes, it means exactly that. Or do you still use 'awful' to mean 'inspiring awe' and 'terrific' to mean 'causing terror'? Does 'cleave' mean to join or to separate? Do you put on your napron when cooking, or do you put on an apron like the rest of us?

      Language is living, and it changes. Get used to it.

      And your drive size example is quite ironic. 'kilo' meant 1000 LONG before it ever meant 1024. By your standards that change should never have been allowed.

    16. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've always preferred this solution:

      Literally means literally

      Litrally mean figuratively

    17. Re: " Faye must've skipped that part" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The point of this is to spot light great films so people will see them. It's the main balancing force to the commercial interests. For those complaining about unoriginal films and endless sequels, the films nominated for best picture are a great alternative.

    18. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by KiloByte · · Score: 0

      Please tell me when it meant 1000 bytes instead of 1024. It's been in use for several decades before a marketing department of a drive maker decided otherwise.

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    19. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by bws111 · · Score: 2

      What does that have to do with anything? Your argument (incorrect as it is) was that a word with two meanings in the same domain is useless, and should not be allowed. The prefix kilo (from the greek for thousand) has been applied as a prefix to all sorts of things for 200 years. Meters, liters, pascals, volts, ohms, amperes, etc. And it ALWAYS meant 1000. But, for some magical item called a 'byte' it suddenly doesn't mean that anymore? Do explain.

      When 'KB' meant 1024 bytes that was largely just technical lingo. When it moved into popular culture people already knew that 'kilo' means 1000 and it took on that meaning.

    20. Re: " Faye must've skipped that part" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it has meant 1000 at least since the terms kilogram, kilometer, and kilowatt were adopted.

    21. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Wraithlyn · · Score: 2

      You understand that the prefix "kilo" means 1000, right? And this predates the "kilobyte = 1024 bytes" shit by MILLENNIA. Right?

      Stop trying so hard to misunderstand the point.

      "kilobyte" has ALWAYS meant "1000 bytes", according to the standard SI prefix system. Defining it as 1024 is a temporary anomaly based on the coincidence that 10^3 ~= 1000.

      Hate on "kibibyte" all you want (I hate it too), but it is the modern, standard definition now.

      It's been in use for several decades

      So fucking what. What are you arguing, that we need to blindly follow tradition? Then kilo = 1024 never should've arisen in the first place. You defeat your own argument.

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    22. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Wraithlyn · · Score: 1

      Whoops, obv. I meant 2^10, not 10^3. :)

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    23. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Pfhorrest · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Whether or not "literally" just means literally, it definitely does mean mean "figuratively" either, and I've seen some awful blunders from people trying to hypercorrect under that assumption, ala:

      "...so since I was too drunk to study I ended up getting figuratively the lowest grade in the class!"

      "Wait, what is 'lowest grade in the class' figurative of?"

      "Oh you know, I just mean like, it wasn't like LITERALLY the lowest grade in the class, just, y'know, a pretty low grade."

      Non-literal uses of "literal" may be figurative uses, but that doesn't make "literally" mean figuratively. If you had to give a one-word definition for the new figurative sense of the word literal, it would be something more like "hyperbolically".

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    24. Re: " Faye must've skipped that part" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I won't remember it tomorrow, just like I didn't remember it all this week.

      In 10 years, I won't remember this crap was a decade ago.

    25. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I ended up getting practically the lowest grade in the class!"

      (captcha: unwieldy)

    26. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      In that case the dictionaries are exponentially wrong.

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    27. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Literally + really = litereally.

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    28. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      And literally no one cares.

      Aside from the fact that your English is atrocious, you're talking about the defining moment in someone's career being overshadowed by a scandal. Not only do people care like the winners and those who lost their jobs, but you're also an arse for claiming no one does.

    29. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There have been endless arguments over whether it should have ever been used to mean 1024 (personally I think it's fine for slang, should never have been an 'official' unit).

      However, hard drive manufacturers never changed their usage. Ever since the first hard drives were sold, it was kilo=1000, mega=1 million, giga=1 billion. The floppy manufacturers did not adhere to this standard, in fact they were all over the map in their usage.

    30. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      The volt was not accepted as the unit of electromotive force until approximately 1873. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volt#History

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    31. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      "Actually" fills your need in many circumstances. Just omitting the word "literally" also works.

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    32. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      He failed trigonometry hyperbolically.

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    33. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Shadowlore · · Score: 1

      A quick glance at the card, she saw and read the title.

      The last bastion is the human reading it. Let not poor typography or color choices excuse not taking caution to read the whole thing before announcing. There were several failure points here, not just one. If we are going to rightly lay some fault at the accountant for not handing out the right card envelope due to being not paying proper attention, then Faye also rightly deserves some for not paying proper attention. Perfect typography won't prevent someone from reading part of the text and ignoring the rest.

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    34. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is exactly why such usage is harmful.

      Answer me this: did you receive > 1000 letters?

      If "literally" means "figuratively," then you can't answer that question based on the assertion made, because it can mean either you received thousands of letters or you didn't receive thousands of letters. Such confusion is stupid and unnecessary.

    35. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Gussington · · Score: 1

      Perfect typography won't prevent someone from reading part of the text and ignoring the rest.

      Of course it will, that is how typography works. Font sizes, colours and placement all help guide the eye to the important parts of any text. If you've ever marked up some text you'll know how useful some circling of words or a highlighter can be to put emphasis on the important bits

    36. Re: " Faye must've skipped that part" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kilo means one thousand. The byte-related terminology is only relevant to pedantic, autistic nerds. Not to Real People. Do as the rest of the world does: ignore the nerds and beat them up when they annoy you.

    37. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good point. The study of the failure mode is more interesting than the mistake itself.

    38. Re: " Faye must've skipped that part" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every programming book I had when I was young, back in the '80s, went out of its way to explain that 'kB' was used for 1024 because it was close to 1000 bytes. None of them ever said kilo=1024.

    39. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by guises · · Score: 2

      Language is living, and it changes. Get used to it.

      This is a weak argument that gets really overused. While it is true that language changes over time, this does not mean that it doesn't have rules. Language is a means of communication after all, and it only functions by means of some agreed-upon standards. When those standards are violated it means miscommunication, and shrugging and saying, "language changes," does not resolve that problem.

      People fight over the word "literally" a lot, and while you could certainly argue that fighting over any word is rather stupid... this particular idiom in which "literally" is used only for emphasis and essentially means "not literally," this is one of the better ones to fight over. Since the two meanings are basically opposites, just shrugging and giving up and saying, "language changes," effectively means losing that word as a means of communication.

    40. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      There wasn't a title. What normally would be in the title had been put into a footnote.

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    41. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Just omitting the word "literally" also works.

      I agree. Sometimes less literally is more.

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    42. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by DutchUncle · · Score: 1

      Typography would not have helped put the information in a better order.

    43. Re: " Faye must've skipped that part" by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      In 10 years time people will remember Spotlight won. Not because they saw the film; because of this stuff up.

      Except Spotlight was 2015's Best Picture winner. Moonlight was 2016's Best Picture winner. You've already forgotten!

    44. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Pfhorrest · · Score: 1

      I just now got this joke. Thank you, that's a good one.

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    45. Re:" Faye must've skipped that part" by Gussington · · Score: 1

      Typography would not have helped put the information in a better order.

      Order was one problem, clarity was the other, as pointed out in TFS...

  3. How about you enter the modern era? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Give them a tablet to read from. They make this big deal about locked envelopes like they're the nuclear football. So get rid of the paper and you get rid of all those faults in your secrecy chain like printers and designers and whatever. You could send it real time or have one guy who loads the tablets who knows the winners.

    Or you could also not give a shit, because who gives a shit.

    1. Re:How about you enter the modern era? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But, but... Then Russians will hack it...

      We will have Trump declared the Best Actor and his movie "The Con Job In The White House" will win Best Picture, Conway will get Best Actress, Bannon will get Best Supporting Actor, Comey will get Best Director, the Makeup and Hairstyling award will go to Melania (who, supposedly, is the one responsible for sculpting the three hairs on Trump's head into a 3-D volume maximizing structure -- this award would be well deserved),

      However, there will be no prize awarded in the Best Documentary category (Documentaries must have some element of truth and even the Russians couldn't award that with a straight face to anyone in the Trump campaign or administration).

    2. Re: How about you enter the modern era? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The secrecy chain is intact. They actually print cards for every nominee in each category then select the correct card when the winner is actually determined. Supposedly there are only two people from the accounting firm who actually know the final results before they are announced and they are the ones who hand out the cards as the presenter goes on stage.

  4. Viral Marketing? by monkeyxpress · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When I first read the story on the front page of basically every newspaper, my immediate thought was that it was a publicity stunt. Maybe it wasn't, but I know that I - and many of my friends - didn't care about the oscars this year until that story popped up. Whether this was 'fake news' or not, we are most definitely entering a strange new world, where information is more readily available than ever, but more unreliable than ever.

    1. Re:Viral Marketing? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

      From what I've heard, one of the PwC accountants was busy tweeting backstage. He was distracted and handed Warren the wrong envelope. The rest is now Oscar history.

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    2. Re:Viral Marketing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And a better design as TFA states would have still prevented that from being more than a minor inconvenience while they waited for the correct envelope to be brought out to them.

    3. Re: Viral Marketing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Trump's speech this week had more viewers. They need to do something especially when they give the biggest award to a terrible movie just to be PC. The top review on IMDb for it has four stars. That doesn't deserve best picture award.

    4. Re: Viral Marketing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      When you give out awards to unqualified recipients then you just cheapen the award for everyone. So now if another black movie ever wins, then people will assume it doesn't deserve the award like this movie doesn't.

    5. Re:Viral Marketing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You care about the Oscars now because of this 'spectacle'? Loser.

    6. Re: Viral Marketing? by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Trump's speech this week had more viewers. They need to do something especially when they give the biggest award to a terrible movie just to be PC. The top review on IMDb for it has four stars. That doesn't deserve best picture award.

      IMDB reviews are our standard now?
      It seems like most of the people who thought Moonlight was a terrible movie, affirmative action, blah blah didn't actually go and see it.

  5. MegaFLICKS by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 0

    MegaFLICKS FTW in typography failure

    1. Re:MegaFLICKS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  6. Hindsight by Fruit · · Score: 1

    Always 20/20.

    1. Re:Hindsight by Jason+Levine · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As I told my son after he fried my laptop a couple of days ago (plugged the power cable into a USB slot because he wasn't paying attention), it's not whether you make a mistake or not, it's whether you learn from it. In my son's case, it's "pay attention when plugging in electrical devices." In PwC's case, it might be "don't tweet while handing the envelopes out" or "design the envelopes/cards to more easily convey their information."

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    2. Re:Hindsight by ZorinLynx · · Score: 3, Interesting

      >plugged the power cable into a USB slot because he wasn't paying attention

      How??!

    3. Re:Hindsight by freeze128 · · Score: 2

      A friend of mine has a visual impairment. He isn't totally blind, but needs to be REALLY CLOSE to words in order to make them out. He often writes technical documentation for his job, and implements various design rules to make it easier to find the part you want in his documents. He doesn't have to do it, but it certainly helps him when he needs to refer to the documentation himself in the future.

      He would have totally designed this card right the first time. PWC probably just had some low level employee do it.

    4. Re:Hindsight by msauve · · Score: 1

      "PWC probably just had some low level employee do it."

      I believe it was all on the 2 employees (who are now banned from working the Oscars). It's been reported that they were the only ones allowed to have knowledge of the winners - they were responsible for everything, beginning with tallying the votes, through handing out the envelopes.

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    5. Re:Hindsight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was wondering this as well, but then I remembered some Lenovo laptops use a rectangular power plug

    6. Re:Hindsight by skids · · Score: 1

      Lenovo thinkpad power connectors are very USBish.

    7. Re:Hindsight by ZorinLynx · · Score: 2

      You'd think at some point a Lenovo engineer would go "This looks kinda like USB. We should make sure it won't fry anything if someone tries to shove it into a USB port."

    8. Re:Hindsight by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

      The USB port is right next to the power port. (This is a 3 year old Toshiba Satellite L-70A.) That USB port had previously lost the little plastic tab that the USB leads usually rest on. My best guess is that my son jammed the round power plug into the rectangular USB hole and one of the USB leads entered the power plug, completing the circuit.

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    9. Re:Hindsight by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      >plugged the power cable into a USB slot because he wasn't paying attention

      How??!

      Probably the same way as my dad did when I was home for Christmas. Lots of USB charger adaptors have two ports on them, spaced just far enough that the blades of a power plug will fit in them, but not well or all the way. My dad struggled with that for a good five minutes trying to get it properly plugged in before I looked at it and told him what he was doing wrong.

    10. Re:Hindsight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Expecting people to always pay perfect attention and always operate at their 100% best is what lead to the situation.
      Just as the Oscars need to redesign their envelopes and cards, the lesson is you shouldn't buy computers with power and USB connectors that can be mixed up.
      Otherwise it's a matter of time before your son, or you, or another family member, fries the thing again. Yes, you might vow to pay attention. But one day you will be in a hurry, sleepy, preoccupied, whatever, and you'll screw up again.

  7. Re:Haiku for the Oscars by CaptainDork · · Score: 0

    You have Leftist
    The building

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  8. In related news ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... Cowboy Neal wins every Oscars category.

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    1. Re:In related news ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More likely, Moot.

  9. Blah blah - hindsight is 20/20 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I loathe blog posts like this.

    Well if *I* had been there this wouldn't have happened. I would've used a 20pt Copperplate font in teal green on black with PROPERLY designed text. Big hairy deal - it doesn't matter you popularity grabbing twit. Hindsight is always 20/20 and it's very VERY likely the same events would've played out because an envelope was just blindly handed over and some actors blindly read the card.

    Maybe in the future the cards should be blank and the actors just read from the teleprompter!

    God people - it's NOT A BIG DEAL. They got the wrong card at an awards ceremony. Nobody died. Nobody tried to cheat somebody else out of an award. The world didn't end. It's a nonsensical award for nonsensical accolades given for nonsensical reasons because it's fun. It's not like an olympic competition or other sports game where actual skills/rules have to come into play or scientific research that can make or break humanity's chances of survival or nature of life.

    But hey - I'm sure if we all just followed this blogger's smug self-sense of worth the academy awards could've avoided such a horrible embarrassment... Except of course for memorializing a living person on the "those who died this last year" segment? What font would you use to fix that?

    1. Re: Blah blah - hindsight is 20/20 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Copperplate on anything other than an actual copper plate is kind of missing the point. But then we'd need Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jean-Claude Van Damme to read out every category, every year.

      Which would be awesome or terrible, depending on your point of view.

    2. Re:Blah blah - hindsight is 20/20 by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      I loathe blog posts like this.

      Good. Please state your name so that I make sure to never employ someone who's not interested in identifying causes and mitigating consequences, learning from mistakes, or who just claims that hindsight is something that isn't worth investigating.

    3. Re: Blah blah - hindsight is 20/20 by anegg · · Score: 1

      I think it would be literally terrific.

  10. Who. The. Fuck. Cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Who. The. Fuck. Cares? ...about some creative designer's opinion on how the fucking cards should have been designed?

    "Oh think of the UX!"

    Bullshit! C'mon slashdot... slow news day?

    1. Re:Who. The. Fuck. Cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The UX stuff is a lot more interesting than the Oscars.

    2. Re:Who. The. Fuck. Cares? by vel-ex-tech · · Score: 1

      News for nerds: maybe. Typography nerds are still nerds.

      Stuff that matters: absolutely not.

      If we're going to talk about typography there has to be a better vehicle.

      I have a simpler solution. This seems to work for religious mating festivals and also theater. Dress rehearsal. You don't need to use cards for the dress rehearsal that have the real names. Use the previous year's winners.

    3. Re:Who. The. Fuck. Cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amen. Also, the UX stuff is also a heck of a lot more interesting than all the political crap floating around here lately.

    4. Re:Who. The. Fuck. Cares? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Ahhh Slashdot. The one place where we can endlessly complain about human interfaces and yet when we discuss them we question about who cares.

  11. Why The Oscars Matter ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... umm, well, uh, ..., you see, ... er ...

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    1. Re:Why The Oscars Matter ... by PPH · · Score: 1

      They don't.

      So we should just shut them down and send all the people who work for them to design cockpit interfaces for Boeing.

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    2. Re:Why The Oscars Matter ... by frovingslosh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Remember last year when they just gave nominations to good shows and performances and the racists got all in people's faces about how unfair that was? So now in over reaction the Oscars gave Best Picture to a movie that few will ever see. Think about how much your life has been impacted by the Oscar goof this year (meaning announcing the wrong winner, not the goof of giving it to Moonlighting in an act of appeasement) and you'll eventually realize that if the awards no longer matter then the cards that the winners are written on don't matter either.

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    3. Re:Why The Oscars Matter ... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I don't think they'd take them back.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      "The dials on the two vibration gauges (one for each engine) were small and the LED needle went around the outside of the dial as opposed to the inside of the dial as in the previous 737 series aircraft."

      I think they're working at slashdot, in fact. Some useless twat has apparently broken anchor tags.

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  12. That's what you get by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    That's what you get for not using Comic Sans like every decent graphic designer would have. Amateurs.

  13. Idiot Proofing... by maz2331 · · Score: 2

    ...can help a lot, but let's keep in mind that there is ALWAYS a better idiot out there.

    1. Re:Idiot Proofing... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      That doesn't mean we should make it so easy that every idiot gets a go.

    2. Re:Idiot Proofing... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Never underestimate the persistance of a determined idiot.

    3. Re:Idiot Proofing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fool Proof? Yes!

      Idiot Proof? No!

  14. Re:Why Typography Matters ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    Really? You can't think of any situations where clear, concise communications are important?

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  15. "unfortunate person"? by alleycat0 · · Score: 2
    "unfortunate person who handed them the wrong envelope"

    It is being reported that Brian Cullinan, who handed out the wrong envelope, was distracted because he was tweeting on his phone despite having been warned not to do so. If this is true, he was negligent, not unfortunate.

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    1. Re:"unfortunate person"? by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      It's unfortunate that he was negligent.

    2. Re:"unfortunate person"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not at the moment of handing the envelope. Very unfortunate after,

  16. Re:Why Typography Matters ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks for sharing

  17. it is design not typography by kiviQr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why we keep talking about typography? It was a really bad design of the card, not an issue of fonts used.

    1. Re:it is design not typography by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why we keep talking about typography?

      Because the whole premise of the article is that better typography would have made the incident far less likely to have occurred.

      It was a really bad design of the card,

      Yes, but what specifically was bad about the design? Answer: it was the typography that was bad.

      (also, swapping the layout of "Best Actress" and "The Oscars" would have been an improvement, but mainly it's the typography that's in question)

      not an issue of fonts used.

      Err... the fonts used is exactly the issue. The typeface of the font was fine, but the size was in question, which also happens to be a matter of typography (and two fonts with the same face but different sizes are still different fonts).

    2. Re:it is design not typography by lastman71 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Because: Typography is the art and technique of arranging type to make written language legible, readable, and appealing when displayed (from Wikipedia).

    3. Re:it is design not typography by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Font != Typography

    4. Re:it is design not typography by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I'd say putting the title - the thing that does the semi-important job of telling you what it's all about - at the bottom isn't very clever whatever font you use.

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    5. Re:it is design not typography by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Why we keep talking about typography? It was a really bad design of the card, not an issue of fonts used.

      If you clicked TFA it even helpfully points out the definition of typography. Then maybe you would realise why typography and bad design on this card are the same thing and why we keep talking about it.

    6. Re:it is design not typography by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Typography is part of it but it's not the whole issue.

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    7. Re:it is design not typography by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      So it's a part of it. Now you know why we're talking about it.

    8. Re:it is design not typography by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Two posts up, you claimed it was ALL of it.

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    9. Re:it is design not typography by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      In the scope of what we are talking about it is. We're talking typography (our scope). You are talking about the design of the card (a superset of our scope). You're asking why we're talking what we talk about (because we couldn't give a flying fuck about some artistic crap and we're discussing typography).

  18. Re:Why Typography Matters ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Triggered! #FontSizeMatters

  19. Good advice to apply in practice by wickerprints · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The article makes a very persuasive case, one that I think many of us can apply in our work as well. You don't have to be a graphic designer or work in graphic design to be able to extract these principles and apply them to your profession.

    1. Mitigate the chance of error across every step in the process. Build in fail-safes. The media has placed the lion's share of the blame on the PwC accountants, and it's fair to say they were largely responsible ("you had ONE job"). But there are other steps in the process, ways of building in fail-safe mechanisms, as this article demonstrates.

    2. Anticipate the impact of human error. Having two accountants, two sets of envelopes, having them memorize the list of winners, is a good thing, but we see here that this failed because when the awards ceremony is live, people might not be as level-headed as they would normally be. There's a lot going on, and the possibility of error as a result of distractions is greater. Ironically, having multiple sets of envelopes is part of the reason why this error occurred, so there must be careful thought toward building the aforementioned redundancy in a way that doesn't inadvertently create additional modes of failure.

    3. Good communication design always places the most important piece of information front and center. This is true whether you work in traditional print, or new media design, or user interface design. And the need for effective design is very frequently underestimated or overlooked entirely.

    You can argue that this was just an awards ceremony, rich people patting each other on the back, yadda yadda. Fine. But what I'm interested in is how we all can use this event as a learning experience in our own lives.

    1. Re:Good advice to apply in practice by admin7087 · · Score: 1

      You forgot:

      4. Typeset the EULA in all caps, so nobody actually reads it but you can still claim later that you made it clearly stand out as being important.

    2. Re:Good advice to apply in practice by timholman · · Score: 1

      2. Anticipate the impact of human error. Having two accountants, two sets of envelopes, having them memorize the list of winners, is a good thing, but we see here that this failed because when the awards ceremony is live, people might not be as level-headed as they would normally be. There's a lot going on, and the possibility of error as a result of distractions is greater. Ironically, having multiple sets of envelopes is part of the reason why this error occurred, so there must be careful thought toward building the aforementioned redundancy in a way that doesn't inadvertently create additional modes of failure.

      The biggest part of the "human error" factor was that the PwC guy who was passed out the envelopes was spending his time on his smartphone, tweeting to his followers. That, more than anything else, led to the mistake.

      You can debate about fonts and typography all you want, but if the person who is responsible for handing out the correct envelope is too busy tweeting "OMG THE OSCARS ARE SO COOL! #iamcooltoo" to pay attention to his job, then mistakes are going to happen.

      The smartest thing that PwC could do for next year is put people in charge who are not "starstruck" by Hollywood actors, and who will pay attention to the task at hand instead of trying to impress everyone about how important they think they are.

    3. Re:Good advice to apply in practice by vux984 · · Score: 1

      But what I'm interested in is how we all can use this event as a learning experience in our own lives.

      Here are the lessons:

      a) unexpected stuff happens in life. roll with it.

      b) some unexpected stuff happens in life that might be avoided if you spend obsessive attention to details. No matter how much time you spend obsessing over details there will be something that you just didn't think of.

      c) spending obsessive attention to detail is not always the best use of our time or money. if you are building a new space suit for astronauts, spend obsessive attention to details.

      The rabbit hole is bottomless.

      How much would it have cost to hire a team of experts to form a committee to review the card design... to consider the font, sizing, worry about the sharp corners, consider the possibility of papercut, consider that some of the prsenters are older and may have slight tremors and may be drop it because its so thin... perhaps having them open cards is the issue... maybe they should have an ipad with a nice grippable case, with a custom app, with an animation for opening the card... but then it would need to be secured, and you'd have a security consultant... and form a committee to develop the app, and another comittee to design the case... and then start all over next oscars because... technology changes, different presenters, new pool of experts thinks they could make adjustments to improve it... maybe a new app that varies the font size to make it take the ideal FOV based on the presenters arm length....

      Or some random non-expert aide can order up the cards printed on card stock... and its worked out ok for most of a century.

    4. Re:Good advice to apply in practice by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Ironically, having multiple sets of envelopes is part of the reason why this error occurred

      When I first heard this I was wondering how the envelope for a category that had already been announced could be used again. At the last category there should be precisely one left, right? Reading around a bit I suppose the envelope given was one of the red herrings printed to prevent leaks.

      The solution then is simple. Write the category clearly on the envelope, perhaps with a number indicating the sequence. When the correct one for "247: Best performance by a left-handed dyslexic non-human supporting actor" has been handed off, immediately chuck all the envelopes with "247 foo yada etc " on them in the bin.

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    5. Re:Good advice to apply in practice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know, right?

      Once the award has been announced for a particular category, and you're left holding the spare envelope, shouldn't you immediately shitcan it?

    6. Re:Good advice to apply in practice by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      The biggest part of the "human error" factor was that the PwC guy who was passed out the envelopes was spending his time on his smartphone, tweeting to his followers. That, more than anything else, led to the mistake.

      You can debate about fonts and typography all you want, but if the person who is responsible for handing out the correct envelope is too busy tweeting "OMG THE OSCARS ARE SO COOL! #iamcooltoo" to pay attention to his job, then mistakes are going to happen.

      Yes, but there are two different things going on here:

      The guy with the envelope screwing up. Yes, that would not have been avoided by any typography.

      But it would have been NOTICED that the guy just screwed up. THAT would have been the advantage of good typography. One more line of defense.

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    7. Re:Good advice to apply in practice by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Rule 0: Know thy users. In this case, they were of advanced years and had bright lights shining in their faces.

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  20. Bennett Haselton strikes again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What the hell is this story. It's like it was summoned here by Bennett Haselton.

    1. Re:Bennett Haselton strikes again? by TWX · · Score: 1

      Don't say his name two more times!

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  21. On a related note by gtall · · Score: 1

    This is somewhat adjacent topic. A philosophy professor once told me that one should put much care in choosing syntax for a logic and its mathematical models. If the readers' main problem is hacking through your syntax, you have done him/her and yourself (when you try to read it later) a disservice.

    It isn't just choice of fonts. If a subscript in one font means something and a subscript in another font means something else, then you should consider not overloading subscripts with both kinds of information...guess what problem I'm running into now in reading a logic paper.

  22. It was the best font for plausible deniability by tech-law-ny · · Score: 1

    The message from the Academy was that La La Land would have the votes in a vacuum, but Moonlight had the votes because we live in a society. Stunts and fonts are just a distraction.

  23. More than typography, procedures by TWX · · Score: 2

    The biggest problem is how cards for categories were handled. Procedures were simply flawed in that it became possible for cards for already-announced categories to make their way into later presentations.

    If I understand correctly, there are two sets of identical cards, so that whichever side the stage is entered-from, the relevant card can be handed to the presenter as they pass. This procedure is flawed. It does not automatically deprecate out a card when that card is used.

    There are several ways to correct this procedure. Easiest method is to simply provide the cards to the presenters at a single controlled point, and to collect the spent cards from the presenters at another controlled point. To do this then all presenters either need to enter the stage from the same side, or else the cards need to be given to the presenters at a common place that all presenters must pass through prior to getting backstage to pick which side they enter from. If the Academy wants to prevent anyone from opening the cards between this common handout point and the stage, then they need to provide security or escort from that point to the wings of the stage. If the presenters are able to leave by either side, the escorts take the card and deposit it into a locked box similarly to how ballots are collected, where the card is slid into the box and can't be retrieved without cutting the zip-tie. This prevents casual accidental return of the used card back to the source. It would be simple enough to use this egress method at both sides of the stage, such that it doesn't really matter how they leave, the cards are collected and securely taken out of circulation.

    Typography wouldn't really matter if this was done properly.

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    1. Re:More than typography, procedures by Scott+Tracy · · Score: 1

      But you know, if I had two envelopes left in my hand, I would stare at both of them good and hard to be sure I was handing the right one to Warren Beatty. And even after he left I'd keep checking to make sure I had the no-longer-needed Best Actress card in my hand. What they need is someone with a decent case of OCD.

    2. Re:More than typography, procedures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      simply provide the cards to the presenters at a single controlled point

      Centralization is not the solution. They need a blockchain-based protocol.

    3. Re:More than typography, procedures by arth1 · · Score: 1

      And if I were Waren Beatty, I would have read the outside of the envelope before opening it. Out loud.

      But this is 2017, why are we using envelopes?

    4. Re:More than typography, procedures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This procedure is flawed. It does not automatically deprecate out a card when that card is used.

      It doesn't seem particularly hard for the card handler to pay attention to the ceremony and discard the card on the top of his pile when the equivalent card is being read on stage.

      This prevents casual accidental return of the used card back to the source.

      It doesn't seem particularly hard for the card handler to prevent anyone from interfering with his pile of card.

      If you wanna make the card-handling process completely idiot-proof, then you need to address a lot more failure scenarios. How do you prevent the card handler from picking a card from the middle of the pile?

      You didn't explain how to make the process of preparing the pile of cards idiot-proof. Do you assume that those people are flawless? If there are some capable people around, then why not use those people to hand over the cards?

    5. Re:More than typography, procedures by TWX · · Score: 1

      It may not seem hard, but it was proven to be hard in practice.

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    6. Re:More than typography, procedures by painandgreed · · Score: 2

      If I understand correctly, there are two sets of identical cards, so that whichever side the stage is entered-from, the relevant card can be handed to the presenter as they pass. This procedure is flawed. It does not automatically deprecate out a card when that card is used.

      Not so quick. The duplicate cards are also part of their error correction in case something goes wrong with the cards. The reason why the woman also got fired is she was on the other side of the stage, knowing who the real winner was, also with a correct card. Her job was to notice the error, go to the stage, tell them the mistake, and give them the correct card (as the mistake could have been the wrong card in the correct envelope) before something really bad happens like the not-winners get on stage and give an acceptance speech. She didn't do this, which is why she was fired as well as the guy that handed out the wrong card.

    7. Re:More than typography, procedures by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      There are several ways to correct this procedure.

      Thank you for correcting this procedure. Maybe next year we could spoil a yet unannounced winner instead of a past one and it will be much better.

      Typography wouldn't really matter if this was done properly.

      You've fallen into a typical trap that you think you have a procedure so perfect that an extra layer of defence against a fault is not needed. Procedures are among the least effective forms of control over any situation. By replacing one procedure with another you've just shuffled the failure points around.

      As it was there was great uncertainty on stage when the wrong card got into the hands of the presenter. Much of the problem could have been mitigated as TFA states by writing "Best Picture" really big across the top of the card so the presenter wouldn't read a card he knows is wrong.

    8. Re:More than typography, procedures by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      If I understand correctly, there are two sets of identical cards, so that whichever side the stage is entered-from, the relevant card can be handed to the presenter as they pass.

      That's retarded. If they know in advance who the presenters are, they know in advance which side they'll be coming from.

      and to collect the spent cards from the presenters at another controlled point.

      What's the point in that? If the presenter sticks it in his pocket to keep for a souvenir it's not in the inbox, so it's not a problem.

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    9. Re:More than typography, procedures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I understand correctly, there are two sets of identical cards, so that whichever side the stage is entered-from, the relevant card can be handed to the presenter as they pass.

      That's retarded. If they know in advance who the presenters are, they know in advance which side they'll be coming from.

      Non sequitur. Evidently they *don't* know, which is why they prepare for either eventuality.

    10. Re:More than typography, procedures by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      "Mr Spielberg, you'll be presenting best X in a Y with a Z. Come in from the right."

      It's not like this needs Bennett Haselton to work it out.

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  24. Typography Aside... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What was really clumsy was the correction. Once the error was discovered the producers and stage managers should have admitted the mistake and seated the people from La La Land. Once the stage was cleared, then Warren and Faye should have been given the correct envelope and announced the winner. The way they did it really diminished the excitement for the actual winner.

  25. Re:Haiku for the Oscars by Salgak1 · · Score: 0

    As has Elvis

  26. Why Anything Matters by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's some famous quote about CS having two hard problems: naming things, and cache-invalidation functions. This is an example of getting a cache-invalidation function wrong.

    By formatting the card foolishly, the announcers used a bad cache value (they read quickly, saw a movie title and concluded that the movie title was the desired value) instead of doing the more expensive thing (saying "Oops, cache miss. We have the best actress card here but we need the best picture one"). Font and layout geeks are telling us that the cache could have been correctly invalidated, by using the things that (within their art) are obvious common sense. "This is easy to do right!" they are screaming.

    Are you sure that you are not actually seeing this very problem in everything you ever work on? Might not a sufficiently-stoned person realize that this is the essense of every logic gate in the infinitely-dimensional fractal tree of reality? (And might he also say, that by being clear about what level of abstraction you're working at, you may also see how to correctly name things?)

    People geek out on things. Yes, those people geek out on Oscars, which is silly. Silly to you, [here I use my Great! Acting! Talent! to make a sneer appear on my face before I dramatically recite the next word in my speech] nerd!

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    1. Re:Why Anything Matters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you sure that you are not actually seeing this very problem in everything you ever work on? Might not a sufficiently-stoned person realize that this is the essense of every logic gate in the infinitely-dimensional fractal tree of reality? (And might he also say, that by being clear about what level of abstraction you're working at, you may also see how to correctly name things?)

      Dude, my shop so fucking needs to hire you, but I already see we can't afford you.

      Please tell me you've written a book; I'm buying it for myself and my boss.

    2. Re: Why Anything Matters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great comment, 10/10, would read again.

    3. Re:Why Anything Matters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You forgot off-by-one errors.

      There are two hard problems: naming things, cache-invalidation, and off-by-one errors.

    4. Re:Why Anything Matters by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 1

      Sorry, man, I forgot that one. My memory just isn't what it used to be, for some reason.

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    5. Re:Why Anything Matters by anegg · · Score: 1

      I think the Spanish Inquisition is coming for you.

    6. Re:Why Anything Matters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's some famous quote about CS having two hard problems: naming things, and cache-invalidation functions.

      Work with NDB Cluster, do you?

    7. Re:Why Anything Matters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are two hard things in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors.

  27. Re:Why Typography Matters ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Size doesn't matter. It's about the motion in the serifs.

  28. HUGE type on the outside of the envelope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The envelope should have the category written in type so big the audience could read it.
    Big enough for blind senile old geezers, that don't want to show they need reading glasses, can read it.
    Having it in a tasteful, elegant look is arrogant and does not serve the purpose.

  29. Good Marketing by neoRUR · · Score: 1

    Well things like this are bad and good. Good because of all the free marketing they got, bad because it was not the kind of marketing they wanted.
    It lives on in each award show for this year, now the standing joke will be to give the main top award to La La Land...

    But really, what about color coding the top card to Gold. I know you can't color each different category, then you would have to remember what the color means, but at least the Top award should be a different color than the rest.

    And yes, the type and size of the text inside the card should have been designed differently. And the presenters should have been informed and planned for what would happen in the "wrong card situations".

  30. Why do the oscars matter? -- Especially on /. by exabrial · · Score: 2

    Just saying, the sewage from a bunch of out-of-touch elitists has never really interested myself or a lot my fellow kind.

    1. Re:Why do the oscars matter? -- Especially on /. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      They don't. Fortunately the summary and article isn't about the Oscars, but rather about typography. Read it, you may learn something.

    2. Re:Why do the oscars matter? -- Especially on /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find that elitists tend to use 'myself' instead of 'me' in order to sound smarter.

    3. Re:Why do the oscars matter? -- Especially on /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My favorite is when people try to sound smart by using "whom," and it backfires when they use it incorrectly.

      "We look up to those whom take the initiative to be leaders."

    4. Re:Why do the oscars matter? -- Especially on /. by admin7087 · · Score: 1

      What on earth are you talking about? No film price in the world is less elitist and more commercial than the Oscars. It's an advertisement for (mostly) Hollywood actors and filmmakers, not some bunch 'out-of-touch elitists'. Most of them are ordinary, hard working people and don't even earn much money.

    5. Re:Why do the oscars matter? -- Especially on /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just saying, the sewage from a bunch of out-of-touch elitists has never really interested myself or a lot my fellow kind.

      Because approximately 33 million people watched it. And this is a perfect example of a similar problem we are having right now we've been hard pressed to explain to our non-technical colleagues in a language everybody can understand. Now it can be boiled down to:

      "Remember that incident with the Oscars?"
      "Yes, why?"
      "We are facing the same issue right now and could have the same risk of exposure/embarrassment"
      "Oh...."

  31. My question: What was on the outside of the card? by Streetlight · · Score: 1

    Front and back should have the category embossed in high contrast color to the background color. The readers shouldn't need to open the card to read the category their announcing the winner.

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  32. Well here's the thing by xevioso · · Score: 1

    This has been gone over quite a bit in the past few days.

    1) The Academy, not PwC, designed the cards (or contracted out the design). They used a different design house than in years past, ostensibly for cost reasons, but my suspicion is that someone higher up pulled some strings to get a new designer for whatever reason.
    2) The #1 issue with the new design is not the typography, which is an issue...it's the contrast. The old design had gold envelopes with black lettering. Why is that important? So you can clearly see the lettering backstage where it may (or may not) be dark. In that way, the accountants might have been more easily able to see the lettering on their envelopes and more quickly corrected the situation. It's still their fault, but the Academy shares some of the blame, because they were more concerned with things like "How will this sexy envelope look when it's opened on TV" rather than "How easily are people able to read the outside of this envelope under pressure backstage."

  33. Typography and graphics design a lost art? by k6mfw · · Score: 1

    I dunno, I never taken any of these classes and haven't looked to see if such are available. I learned in early days of "publishing" in 1990s when a friend gave me the book "The PC is not a typewriter" by Robin Williams (not the comedian). This person has done publishing from linotype machines to desktop systems. One thing I learned from him is use minimum types of fonts so your publications don't look like ransom notes (the kind where sentences are formed from cutting out letters from various magazines and glued to a piece of paper).

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    1. Re:Typography and graphics design a lost art? by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      Another good one is "Whitespace is Not Your Enemy" by Golimbsky. But you are right, one big no-no is picking half a dozen different fonts for some project just because they look cool.

  34. coasting and getting paid, and getting soft by supernova87a · · Score: 2

    The failure here isn't mostly that a card was designed wrong - that could happen for anyone briefly given the task of designing and printing up cards.

    The travesty is that a company that is presumably being paid MILLIONS of $ to do this job, was skating by with non-thinking process and doing deliberate testing and rethinking of the card design. They got lazy and assumed that every year, nothing goes wrong, so we don't need to be checking or improving what we do. (with regard to the actual big night's event, not saying there's not other work that goes into it)

    If something is that important, imagine what you should do to make it as bulletproof as possible - like you're designing cards that hold the nuclear launch codes upon which millions of lives depend. You would create a design and testing process that:

    - tested what would happen if some element of the card delivery / reading chain failed or was accidentally broken
    - tested different card typography and layout designs
    - tested the kinds of people who would be involved in delivering and reading the cards (e.g. blind people, old people, nearsighted people, drunk people, anyone who you'd likely encounter on the night)
    - etc, etc, etc.

    They got by for years without being rigorous about this part of their job, and this time it bit them in the ass. Don't get complacent.

  35. Designers suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Design is a lost art. There was a time when IBM agonized over the color of the border of active windows on their GUI. Active windows have to be instantly recognized as such but not have too awfully loud a color as to be fatiguing. They did studies about color, perception, and their impact on workflow. Nowadays we get abysmal contrast and everything is flattened into a big game of hide-n-seek to find the active controls on a web-page or app.

  36. Re:Why Typography Matters ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I need stable serifs, not some unhinged wavy orange abortion. #NotMyTypeface

  37. Re:Haiku for the Oscars by Opportunist · · Score: 0

    It's about movies
    Not about your agenda
    you stupid moron

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  38. Fire that dimwit instead by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Instead of trying to blame the whole fiasco on the PWC goons (who did fuck up, no doubt here), fire that idiot that designed those cards instead. This is simply beyond dumb.

    But lemme guess. "Oh, who's gonna see the cards anyway, no need to hire a professional. My secretary can do that on our trip to the ceremony."

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  39. Your proc advocates eliminating backup and by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your procedure advocates eliminating backup and redundancy.

    I do not think that is a good basic starting point for a secure AND failure-resistant procedure.

    Captcha: copies

  40. Re:Haiku for the Oscars by xevioso · · Score: 0

    Moron and stupid
    Mean the same thing, you know.
    Don't be redundant.

  41. I used to think typography didn't matter by raymorris · · Score: 1

    I used to think typography didn't matter. Then I saw this:

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pini...

    1. Re:I used to think typography didn't matter by cruff · · Score: 1

      Yep, they needed to use a different font for that sign. I wonder how long was that sign up before some busy body filed an obscenity complaint?

    2. Re:I used to think typography didn't matter by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      There used to be a porn magazine called "Flick" for just that reason.

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    3. Re:I used to think typography didn't matter by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I worked in Sitt Ifrikeh for a while and the office had a "FLICK IT" bin.

      It was considered bad form to not say "Fuck it" when you threw anything in it.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  42. Print the presenters name on the card as well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Problem solved. Unless you have presenters who are up multiple times or can't remember their names.

  43. One thing we know for certain about "Moonlight" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It won the GNAA Best Picture award, hands down.

  44. visual + social = competence + profit by epine · · Score: 1

    I though about this for three minutes, when I discovered all the shit dripping off the fan the morning after.

    A simple photograph (or gallery) of person (or people) expected to mount the stage would be the best sanity check. Our visual systems are way better equipped to get a slice of primary this-can't-be-right cognition for a celebrity in the hot light feeling watched by a hundred million people.

    Yes, you could still end up with the same visual on two different cards, say an actor or actress nominated in two different categories (e.g. lead/supporting). That would require a rare double mix up.

    For director/voice actor they could add the image of one of those spindly little chairs or a microphone. They could also tuck a photo of last year's winner (already holding their damn trophies) at the bottom—or even better, a manic caricature of same.

    These would be about right as a cue for LAST YEAR'S winner of same category (drawn in a slightly more minimalist style, with Oscar added):

    Caricatures drawn for The New York Review by four artists

    Wallace
    Kubrick
    Shostakovich

    (Baring a recount, you have a whole year to book this art before the next gala shindig.)

    You would need to use stock images for THIS YEAR'S winner, or you'd risk letting the cat out of the bag. Probably stock images from the actual production (which I'm sure all nominees have available if you ask nicely).

    Obviously, the inner staff of whatever agency takes this over in future years prepares a winner card for every nominee in every category, and the newly-scared-shitless MC of final card selection would manually winnow the field—stamping each selected card "official"—and then immediately burning all cards not selected.

    Bonus: you also get a one-of-a-kind souvenir for the lucky winner to pass along to favoured family or friend (ideally signed by hand by the caricature artist). There are probably other PR/monetization strategies available in conjunction with this, not that anyone in Hollywood would notice another shake of the purse.

    1. Re:visual + social = competence + profit by epine · · Score: 1

      Here's another one.

      If you're already reconceiving the card as an eBay click-bait eternal keepsake, you could go so far as to turn the card into a stiff menu-like pop-up book, where an Oscar (in actual gold leaf) pops up when the card is opened (plus sundry visual security clues as per my parent post).

      Cards would be made for all nominees (to maintain information symmetry during the process).

      For the losers, the gold-leaf Oscar pop-up is replaced by a sultry Michigan J. Frog (who actually sings, if we want to go full Taiwanese Hallmark).

      It would all be so millennial (everyone gets a prize).

  45. Slashdot, fix YOUR typography first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As in: your banner ads SUCK. The number of read/transfer loads that completely break commenting while they load SUCKS! Please eliminate them. I really don't give a damn about this topic anymore. Since the current site dynamics SUCK!

    Thank you.

  46. Re:Haiku for the Oscars by reboot246 · · Score: 0

    Good eye you have there! I work for the Department of Redundancy Department and we're always looking for smart, talented people to fill our ranks. Would you care to send us your resume? There is no pay; it's all volunteer work.

  47. Re:Haiku for the Oscars by Opportunist · · Score: 0

    I wanted to write
    "You goddamn, fucking idiot"
    But that was too long

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  48. Or we could just accept by randomlygeneratename · · Score: 1

    that people make mistakes. It happens. Would be nice if we could just relax, it wasn't a NASA launch or anything. Don't need to get the process engineers and managers coming out of the woodwork to figure out how to make the system 'more resilient'...

  49. Obligatory Dilbert by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

    http://dilbert.com/strip/1996-08-24
    Lawyers must love you. "I can lie any way I want to because the meaning of words changes."

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  50. Whoops, typo by Pfhorrest · · Score: 1

    it definitely does mean mean "figuratively" either

    Should be:

    it definitely does not mean "figuratively" either

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  51. Re:Why Typography Matters ... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

    Problem solved, we're no longer letting Serifs into this country.

  52. Re:Why Typography Matters ... by anegg · · Score: 1

    You mean, we will be Sans Serifs?

  53. a similar design/typography failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is what did steve harvey in, in 2015.

  54. Re:Haiku for the Oscars by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    One is a noun
    The other is an adjective
    Type mismatch - bailing

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    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  55. Re:Haiku for the Oscars by persicom · · Score: 1

    You are one syllable short on line 2.