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Uber Admits Its Ghost Driver 'Greyball' Tool Was Used To Thwart Regulators, Vows To Stop (usatoday.com)

Uber has admitted it used a tool to thwart city regulators, and announced a review of its controversial Greyball technology. From a report on USA Today: Greyballing, a play on blackballing, was a way for Uber officials to remotely provide ghost driver information to a targeted individual. A March 3 report on the program in The New York Times cited a 2014 example where a regulator in Portland, Ore., a city in which Uber was operating without approval at the time, was unable to hail a car because of his Greyball-powered app. "We have started a review of the different ways this technology has been used to date," Joe Sullivan, Uber's chief security officer, wrote in a blog post. "In addition, we are expressly prohibiting its use to target action by local regulators going forward."

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  1. `We don't need regulation, we pinky-swear' by TimothyHollins · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ahh yes, the classic "We promise to stop if you promise not to double-check".

    Who here will bet that the regulators won't get caught in some other filter instead, perhaps one sending a "certified" car for the pickup?

    1. Re:`We don't need regulation, we pinky-swear' by mysidia · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think it's obvious..... Regulators need to change their tactics, such as by posting a reward for citizens providing evidence of violation of regulations.

      Then they can increase the penalties, since they know Uber is taking actions to prevent the government itself from auditing.

    2. Re:`We don't need regulation, we pinky-swear' by roman_mir · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Soviet era style tactics are the best, aren't they? Turn half of the population into informers, you don't even need that many people, you just need to seed the doubt in the people's minds that they are constantly being watched. Except that they are being watched constantly

  2. Re:Drivers should be able to control this feature by silentcoder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Driver in a cab company is an employee of a public business. Public businesses do NOT have unlimited right of association - and are required to serve all members of hte public the same. It's called the Civil Rights Act.

    Companies are not people and do not have, nor should they have, the same freedoms as individuals.

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  3. Re:So Uber is bad now? by TWX · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You're ignoring the middle-ground, which includes those in cities that lack a medallion system, where there can be as many cabs as the market will bear. In these environments, taxi regulation is reactionary to bad things that have happened in the past, like sexual assault, robbery, severe injury in traffic collisions, and a lack of insurance to fully cover injuries sustained by passengers.

    Taxi and sedan companies have laws that regulate them because of incidents that happened in the past. Following those regulations costs money. If a company ignores those regulations then they can charge less, but that means that the conditions now exist that may let those previous kinds of incidents return. That's where I have a problem with Uber and its ilk, they're a taxi or sedan service attempting to masquerade as an until-now unclassified "ride sharing" entity so they can violate the laws governing passenger safety.

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