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Alphabet's Waymo Asks Judge To Block Uber From Using Self-Driving Car Secrets (theverge.com)
Waymo, Alphabet's self-driving spinoff from Google, is formally asking a judge to block Uber from operating its autonomous vehicles, according to new documents filed in Waymo's lawsuit against Uber. From a report on The Verge: The lawsuit, which was filed last month, alleges that Uber stole key elements of its self-driving car technology from Google. Uber has called the accusations "baseless." Today in federal court, Waymo filed the sworn testimony of Gary Brown, a forensic security engineer with Google since 2013. Citing logs from Google's secure network, Brown claims that Anthony Levandowski, a former Google engineer who now runs Uber's self-driving car program, downloaded 14,000 files from a Google repository that contain design files, schematics, and other confidential information pertaining to its self-driving car project. Levandowski used his personal laptop to download the files, a fact that Brown says made it easy to track.
As Uber continues to brush its teeth, Google scrambles to put the toothpaste back in the tube. I'm not sure a judge can order Uber to selectively forget the stolen designs. Is the idea a permanent block on Uber running self-driving cars? TFA's unclear.
He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
Uber really is a despicable company
Name ONE other bad thing Uber has done!
WTB [sig], PST!!!
This company is goosestepping along for the ride.
Uber may or may not have been guilty, but:
downloaded 14,000 files from a Google repository
I have a really hard time feeling sorry for a company whose entire business is to harvest as much data about every human being as they possibly can, in every domain they possibly can, even if you take serious measures to keep any info out of their hands.
A patent. Trade secrets can bite you in the ass, and this is why.
Greyball program to purposeful provide false information to cops and regulators.
There is no secret for autonomous driving. There is work, but there is no secret.
Google/Alphabet can try to block the 'simultaneous' invention, but it will fail. All you need is some basic neural networks and computational muscle. If Google is not careful then China will overdrive this 'invention'.
From what I've been able to piece together online, it looks like Uber might be in serious trouble. Google apparently really started to suspect something was wrong when one of the LiDAR component providers noticed both companies were sourcing the same parts with Uber apparently using virtually identical circuit board layouts. The timing looks bad as well with the the small startup company being immediately bought up by Uber and sudden development of Self-Driving technology. Plus you're talking about a company who knowingly tested their Self-Driving cars on the street without bothering to purchase a licence to do so. Even if Uber gets off scott free there's this entire question of Patents too which Google probably entirely holds...
FTC fine for misrepresenting drivers earnings
Using a "company store" model to essentially indebt drivers who need cars but can't afford cars and probably shouldn't be buying cars that expensive in the first place.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
"Don't talk to cops" applies to software and companies you don't like, just as well as to you and I.
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Name ONE other bad thing Uber has done!
Uber hid my car keys to make me use their service. Of course, I can't prove it... Yet.
He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
What's great about this method it the way these intellectual property lawsuits go, Alphabet/google gets intimate discovery of everything there is to know about Uber's self-driving car.
A classic case of one company suing another to take their IP and, along the way, restrain competition.
Anybody being forced to sign anything? No...not a problem.
You could make almost the same case against all new car vendors. Not their job to slap prospective new car buyers and say 'WTF are you thinking? Buying an insanely rapidly depreciating asset on a six year payment plan?'
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
That excuse worked so well for Volkswagen and their diesel cars...
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
The salesman is at arms-length to the buyer in a private party purchase. There is no additional business connection. The uber model used Subprime loans/leases and advertised profits to those buyers that apparently could not be realized, with cars that these people arguably could not afford.
In my experience, if work requires you to pay them for something then it becomes morally shady. It's not necessarily egregious if the item is provided at a steep discount or is not a capital purchase, but it does not sound like the drivers got steep discounts and cars should qualify as capital purchases.
Besides, being morally wrong does not always mean being legally wrong. "Bad" as in, "Name ONE other bad thing Uber has done!" could easily be interpreted as the moral-grounds rather than legal grounds.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
There can be legitimate reasons for downloading files. One might want to be certain that patents are not about to be violated and make certain that different approaches to various items are taken. I saw this occur with an expensive electronic device. The patent holder did not understand the limit of the scope of his patent and sued. He ended up apologizing and paying both sides legal fees. One needs proof in hand before making a complaint or it can get quite expensive.
Yes, it absolutely did. They got to keep selling cars for years before someone external found out about it. If they had been smart they could have used that time to get fixes in place and be ready to control the damage, but either way they had nothing to gain from turning themselves in.
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Volkswagen made a huge mistake. They talked to the cops.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
All major new car vendors have finance wings that will give you a below market loan/lease in order to get you to sign.
Lots of the leases have predictable over mileage payments that will be due at the end of the lease.
Chumps are going to get chumped. It is an immoral act to let a sucker keep his money.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
well their name for one. if you were named 'dominating best person ever the top dog' you would be scorned too. their braggard name means that.
Explain how that is bad? In what sense providing government with fake information is bad? In what world providing the oppressive collectivist government regime with fake information of any kind is bad? AFAIC every single person should stop paying taxes, should never cooperate with any government official at any level on any issue.
You can't handle the truth.
You are a god damn psychopath - get some fucking mental treatment before you kill someone.
A sucker and his money will soon be parted.
As that's a given, it becomes important for the money to go to it's best use. By definition, that's for me to get it.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Or Dodge and their diesel, Honda, Toyota, BMW, Ford, Chevy. They all cheated. Just not as much.
A waymo employee downloads thousands of files, which they may or may not have permission to do, but there's no legal problem, yet.
But if that waymo employee is doing that to check their "personal designs" don't infringe.. nonsense. Nobody at this guy's level in the company would think that it's ok to work on a personal project so close to what they are being paid to do by Waymo.
Who's doing jail time for this?
Toyota sells diesels in the US? When did that happen?
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?