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Germany Plans To Fine Social Media Sites Over Hate Speech (reuters.com)

Germany plans a new law calling for social networks like Facebook to remove slanderous or threatening online postings quickly or face fines of up to 50 million euros ($53 mln). From a report: "This (draft law) sets out binding standards for the way operators of social networks deal with complaints and obliges them to delete criminal content," Justice Minister Heiko Maas said in a statement announcing the planned legislation on Tuesday. Failure to comply could see a social media company fined up to 50 million euros, and the company's chief representative in Germany fined up to 5 million euros. Germany already has some of the world's toughest hate speech laws covering defamation, slander, public incitement to commit crimes and threats of violence, backed up by prison sentences for Holocaust denial or inciting hatred against minorities. It now aims to update these rules for the social media age.

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  1. I know the way Slashdotters vote but... by ckatko · · Score: 4, Informative

    I honestly wonder how Slashdotter's feel about the most "left-wing" countries pressing down on any kind of speech they dislike, including criticism of government policies.

    I'm a moderate. I swing both ways. ( ;) )

    But to me, it's alarming to me how left-wing countries are rapidly approaching and embracing authoritarianism / fascism. (Remember China is a left-wing authoritarian state.) But most people seem to conflate "right wing = authoritarian = bad guys" and "left wing = freedom = good guys."

    At least with US politics, there's been a real splintering. The old GOP is still authoritarian. But the newer GOP are much more "pro-gay marraige, get the government out of your bedroom / life." While the old left seems to be more free loving, and the new left is the ones burning down starbucks because someone dared to say something they don't like.

    So to head back to Germany. Honestly, I'm glad Trump won (WHAT, OMG, DOWNVOTE YOU BASTARD). Because Hillary had spoken at length about European governments being a "model" to follow and, not even about Hillary, but the thousands of people hoping to get into power and hold influence with Hillary at the helm, I really think the USA would have slanted further toward this idea where violence and government oppression is the cure to speech you dislike. (And when Trump got elected, it represented a clear setback.) And the second you say, "We don't use BETTER speech to defeat speech, we use laws and bats." You have basically tapped into people's primal urge to form lynch mobs, and when have you EVER heard of lynch mobs being associated with "justice?" Moreover, the heavily emotional (as opposed to fact-based) nature of the new left's strategy, leaves TONS of people waiting to be unleashed without any fact checking. People who become pawns for billionaires. People who get arrested while the billionaires can just say "I didn't MEAN they should really riot."

    I remember growing up that being a liberal meant two things: 1) I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. and 2) A diversity of IDEAS and perspectives strengthens us all.

    And I'm honestly worried how the left has abandoned both of those core tenets yet somehow uses the same banner and labels. They're abusing the goodwill from decades of goodwork, to make people think their current oppression is still for the good of the world. Like a company buying out a brand name, and corrupting it with cheap knockoffs, but people still remember "The Brand Name" as something good so they get tricked by it.

    1. Re:I know the way Slashdotters vote but... by swillden · · Score: 3, Informative

      The old GOP is still authoritarian. But the newer GOP are much more "pro-gay marraige, get the government out of your bedroom / life."

      Which "newer GOP" is that? Trump's? Because Trump's GOP is taking a hard turn towards authoritarianism. Sure, he doesn't care about gay marriage, but he's all for silencing the press and any other sort of dissent, wants to massively expand the police state (mostly, but not entirely, in the name of fighting illegal immigration), is happy to use government power to lean on any private business he doesn't approve of, etc. He doesn't care about your bedroom primarily because he doesn't want anyone looking too closely at his bedroom, not because he actually believes in liberty.

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  2. Re:"Freedom" by ScentCone · · Score: 3, Informative

    in general nothing of use is lost by banning hate speech

    Yeah, just the First Amendment. Nothing important.

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  3. Re:This is a wise move by guruevi · · Score: 4, Informative

    For various reasons including avoiding US taxes and generating localized ad revenue directly, Facebook does have holdings in various countries including Germany. Thus they are (partially) a German company and thus have to adhere to local laws. Facebook could easily avoid this by repatriating all it's holdings and income to the US, whether that is good for the US, Facebook or German economies is an entirely different question.

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  4. Re:Why so much hypocrisy from leftists? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's only considered "right wing" because the political spectrum is shifted so extremely far to the left in Europe as compared to the rest of the world. The policies they've been responsible for would be considered quite leftist in the US, and even in a more liberal place like Australia.

    No "rightist" in any reasonable political spectrum would have allowed in as many illegal aliens as Germany has these past couple of years. No "rightist" would tolerate the numerous violent and deadly attacks committed by these illegal aliens and other foreigners during the same period. No "rightist" would support suppressing freedom of expression like described in this submission. No "rightist" would support the heavy bureaucracy that Germany has become known for.