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Australia To Ban Unvaccinated Children From Preschool (newscientist.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from New Scientist: No-jab, no play. So says the Australian Prime Minister, Malcolm Turnbull, who has announced that unvaccinated children will be barred from attending preschools and daycare centers. Currently, 93 percent of Australian children receive the standard childhood vaccinations, including those for measles, mumps and rubella, but the government wants to lift this to 95 percent. This is the level required to stop the spread of infectious disease and to protect children who are too young to be immunized or cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons. Childcare subsidies have been unavailable to the families of unvaccinated children since January 2016, and a version of the new "no jab, no play" policy is already in place in Victoria, New South Wales and Queensland. Other states and territories only exclude unvaccinated children from preschools during infectious disease outbreaks. The proposed policy is based on Victoria's model, which is the strictest. It requires all children attending childcare to be fully immunized, unless they have a medical exemption, such as a vaccine allergy.

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  1. Story links to ANTI-VACCINATION NETWORK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is a great idea. I'm sad that kids with stupid parents cannot get into school

    This is to do with day care for pre-schoolers, I don't think we are at the stage where we are going to stop kids attending school. Even the link in the above story to the Australian Anti-Vaccination Network --a link to the AVN ... FFS editors, how about here instead?! --doesn't make that claim.

    The Federal policy in force at the moment is the "no jab, no pay" policy, meaning that parents of unimmunised children are not eligible for childcare related tax rebates etc.

  2. Re:Banning children of uneducated parent from scho by GumphMaster · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is not a ban from primary or secondary schools, only pre-school and day-care facilities where the concentration of children with less developed immunity is high.

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  3. Re:GOOD. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    If it actually worked, only the unvaccinated kids would get infected .... but that is not the case.

    Congratulations, you've noticed that vaccines do not protect 100% from infection. They are in fact less than 100% effective, but more than 0% effective.

  4. Re:GOOD. by Imrik · · Score: 5, Informative

    You seem to be confusing vaccinations working with vaccinations providing complete immunity. Vaccinations work, in that they greatly reduce the chance of catching the disease. If more people are vaccinated the effectiveness is even greater per herd immunity.

  5. Re:GOOD. by aXis100 · · Score: 3, Informative

    You are free to not be vaccinated, but please piss off somewhere that you cant endanger society.

    It's questionable not vaccinating your kids, because competent scientific evidence shows that they are an order of magnitude safer than the risk of the diseases they are protecting agianst. When you frame it like that, non-vaccination is negligence and we legislate against other forms of child negligence.

    Finally, no-one has ever said vaccines are 101% safe. There are risks and vaccine injury is real, but rare. We accept this risk because it is statistically far better off for society, and we have set up support programs for the occasional individual who suffers a serious adverse reaction.

    Finally, reality shows strong evidence in support of the general safety of vaccines. Anyone who tells you otherwise is completely full of shit, and is most likely part of an over-privileged echo chamber.

  6. Re:GOOD. by nbauman · · Score: 3, Informative

    The "fatal car accidents" is not because people don't use a seat belt. It is because the seat belt DOES NOT WORK.

    If it actually worked, only the un-seatbelted people would die .... but that is not the case.

    I just looked up this citation yesterday, the classic study which explains exactly how seat belts work. Bohlin found that only the un-seatbelted people died in accidents below 60mph.

    http://papers.sae.org/670925/
    Paper #: 670925
    Published: 1967-02-01
    DOI: 10.4271/670925
    Citation: Bohlin, N., "A Statistical Analysis of 28,000 Accident Cases with Emphasis on Occupant Restraint Value," SAE Technical Paper 670925, 1967, doi:10.4271/670925.
    Author(s): N. I. Bohlin
    Pages: 14
    Abstract: The value of the three-point safety belt has been evaluated by a statistical analysis of more than 28,000 accident cases, which concerned mainly two cars only and in which 37,511 unbelted and belted front-seat occupants were involved. The safety harness concerned is the Volvo three-point combined lap and upper torso harness with a so-called slip-joint. The average injury-reducing effect of the harness proved to vary between 0 and 90%, depending on the speed at which the accident occurred or the type of injury. Unbelted occupants sustained fatal injuries throughout the whole speed scale, whereas none of the belted occupants was fatally injured at accident speeds below 60 mph. Slight injuries only, mostly single rib cracks, bruises, etc., caused by the safety belt were reported in some cases. The three-point belt proved to be fully effective against ejection out of the car. Almost all cars involved were equipped with safety belts, of which, however, only 26% on an average were used. The frequency of use increased with the age of the occupants.