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BMW Says Self-Driving Car To Be Level 5 Capable In Five Years (reuters.com)
German carmaker BMW is on track to deliver a self-driving car by 2021, the company's senior vice president for Autonomous Driving, Elmar Frickenstein, said on Thursday. From a report: "We are on the way to deliver a car in 2021 with level 3, 4 and 5," Frickenstein told a panel discussion in Berlin, explaining the vehicle will have different levels of autonomy, depending on how and where it is used. A level 5 vehicle is capable of navigating roads without any driver input, while a level 3 car still needs a steering wheel and a driver who can take over if the car encounters a problem.
Hell! I'm Level 5 right NOW.
BTW: WTF is Level 5?
It would be cool is future BMW have blinkers, because all the ones I see on the road do not!
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So you can't afford a $17k VW Jetta, but you're confident that the $30k Tesla 3 will replace it in the market?
Are you Joe the Plumber?
So it's autonomous except when it isn't.
Wake me when we have a car that's full-time Level 5.
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I suspect you will see a pretty big shift in what makes a car desirable when self driving cars become the norm, its hard to say if ownership will even be as common as it is now, it seems unlikely that kids who grow up in a family that has a self driving car will ever learn to drive.
I suspect that more and more, in car entertainment, comfort, ride smoothness and fuel economy/range will be the primary things used to market cars in the future and not the ultimateness of the driving machine.
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Level 5 takes full autonomy to "all driving modes." That means the car is fully capable of driving itself anywhere in any condition, from a snowy, moonlit road to an unmapped desert. It should be noted that, at this point, Level 5 is theoretical. One Audi representative went so far as to describe it as "mythical." It's unlikely we'll see Level 5 autonomous driving in our lifetimes.
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Level 4 is definitely obtainable though.
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I'm an advocate for:
* Electric
* Autonomous
* Shared (ie I don't own it)
vehicles. I like the potential for:
* Quiet roads /. :)
* Efficient travel (I'm a lead-foot)
* No fumes
* Shared rides even
* Time to browse
* TXT/IM/phone & drive legally
* Clear the parked cars of the streets (more lanes, even more efficient)
* Garage & driveway space freed up
I'm just a little worried about people tampering with the smarts and picking you off. I know of two incidents where people who were about to "talk" within days /hours seemed to have their high-tech cars go nuts and kill them.
That really is my only concern... (adjusts tin foil hat)...
As a counter example I put up my German Aunt. Took her more than two years and five figures to get her license, but she still can't drive for shit. She will stop in the middle of an intersection to argue about the route with her passenger.
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wait, what lane do you want me to go in?
Randomly picks a lane, wait for yelling to commence if I guess wrong.
The problem is needing to drive in the first place.
In places with good public transportation (e.g., Europe), you don't need to drive - you can get around pretty damn effectively with just public transportation. Hell, you can even get between cities taking the trains and planes and never needing to step in a car.
Problem is, then you go to places like North America, where the vast majority of cities are car-only. Walking only gets you from one big box store to another (assuming you can cross that 10 lane highway in-between them), and public transit is non-existent. There you less WANT to drive but instead NEED to drive.
Driving's a chore. It's something most drivers in North America don't want to do (as evidenced by their attention being held elsewhere, typically on small handheld devices). What needs to be done is eliminating the need to drive, so those who drive are those that want to.
Better yet, if we can get your sorry ass off the road and replace you with a self-driving vehicle, we won't have to pay your salary and all the shit you peddle will be cheaper. You'll be fine because you've saved your money and have a comfy retirement, so we all win. Or you'll die penniless having spent your money and had your job eliminated due to automation, in which case we win. Either way, it's a win for most of us.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
He's totally missing the point of the definitions. Level 3 is "can drive autonomously, in some conditions, with occasional human intervention". Level 4 is "can drive autonomously, in some conditions, without human intervention". Level 5 is "can drive autonomously, in any conditions that a human can drive in, without human intervention". Saying "We can do Level 3, 4, or 5, depending on the conditions" is saying "We can do Level 3".
Not in all weather they won't. Only people in moderate climates will be able to use these.
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> In places with good public transportation (e.g., Europe)
What? Have you ever been to Europe? I live there, probably in one of the places with the best public transport and it's STILL a disaster. Sure, I can get to work with public transport but it'll take me 3 times as long and I'll be stuck in a cramped space with people I don't want to be stuck with.
I'll just take the car, thank you, like most people around here who can afford one.